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Is Mormonism Christian? by Late Richard John Neuhaus
November 24, 2009

Posted on 11/24/2009 1:46:39 PM PST by Steelfish

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To: reaganaut; Suz in AZ; Taxbilly
Actually they believe Christ had to EARN his Godhood by being perfect here on earth after he got a body of flesh and bone (requirement for Godhood).

Yet how could Yahweh (Jesus' preincarnate name) be a "god" in the OT before He got his body. Inquiring minds want to know.

621 posted on 11/28/2009 7:25:37 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: metmom

We disagree, but I am clearly correct. You just won’t answer.

Come on—you’re an expert on Genesis! You can’t answer the question? What are you avoiding?


622 posted on 11/28/2009 7:28:16 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Elsie

It doesn’t equal many more things than it does, no?

Would you care to take a stab at the question?


623 posted on 11/28/2009 7:29:31 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Elsie

I don’t know. What were they?


624 posted on 11/28/2009 7:31:54 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Godzilla

(ouch)
(snicker)


625 posted on 11/28/2009 7:32:54 AM PST by ejonesie22
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To: metmom; Buck W.

Interesting MM, a Christian seeks to discredit the Bible by dredging up this lame Pi=3 argument. Makes one wonder.


626 posted on 11/28/2009 7:34:02 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: metmom; Buck W.

Interesting MM, a Christian seeks to discredit the Bible by dredging up this lame Pi=3 argument. Makes one wonder.


627 posted on 11/28/2009 7:34:02 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”

Satan can appear as an angel of light. If someone depends on some revelation that doesn't line up with Scripture, as much of Smith's teaching don't, then I seriously doubt that the *personages* were from God.

So, what doctrines and creeds of men are taught by someone who goes back to the Bible for their source of truth?

Traditions and creeds of men are religious formalities established in religious denominations. Following Biblical teachings is not traditions or doctrines of men.

628 posted on 11/28/2009 7:37:21 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: restornu; reaganaut

For years and I don’t know if you are a retread but many took delight in the flithy rags and as a women issue which after reading more on this it is not limited to all your johnny one note!

Filthy aka unclean can be any man or women with issue!
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Resty are you deliberately being obtuse ???

That scripture doesnt mention “issue” and you know it...

Only women have menstrual rags...its the filthy rags left behind not the “issue” or “flow”...something that would be disgarded because it is filthy, unclean, forbidden to keep...

Our best works are like that...rotten to the core...

And the God of the Bible does not “take delight” in such things...they are polluted, unrighteous, unclean..

There is nothing we can do to win salvation...Jesus did it all for us and said “IT IS FINISHED” when He shed His life giving blood and died on the cross...because it was finished...there was nothing else needed to be done..

Thats why the cross is so precious to Christians...it is the place where Jesus won our redemption, our forgiveness, our salvation, he took all of the sins of the world on Himself, God the Father could not look at Him..He took our punishment for sin, our death penalty on Himself...He died in our place...There is nobody like Jesus...only Jesus saves...Jesus is the door to Heaven, to God the Father..to eternal life..

That’s why Jesus said to Resty, “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man or woman comes to the father except by ME” John 14:6


629 posted on 11/28/2009 7:38:33 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Elsie

Cherck my #547...

and MormonDupe..

Do you have a favorite “prophecy” ???


630 posted on 11/28/2009 7:40:39 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Buck W.; reaganaut; ejonesie22; Godzilla; ansel12; Elsie
We disagree, but I am clearly correct.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!

Keep going.....More please......

This is the best entertainment yet.....

631 posted on 11/28/2009 7:40:39 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Godzilla

Why do you consider a discussion of the concept of biblical allegory to be an attempt to “discredit” the bible?

The pi=3 argument is hardly “lame”. It is inarguable (successfully, anyway), and it is but the simplest example to present.


632 posted on 11/28/2009 7:42:29 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
Come on—you’re an expert on Genesis! You can’t answer the question? What are you avoiding?

Nothing. I requested links to provide evidence that there are people who demand that the whole Bible be read completely literally with no regard to literary style, not recognizing poetry, song, parable, etc and you have not produced.

You claimed that there are people who do that. Show it.

I'm not answering your question until you provide links to back up your lie assertion.

633 posted on 11/28/2009 7:44:10 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: restornu; Elsie

You hang out with those demmons enough to know em when yopu see em eh ???


634 posted on 11/28/2009 7:44:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu; reaganaut
For years and I don’t know if you are a retread but many took delight in the flithy rags and as a women issue which after reading more on this it is not limited to all your johnny one note! Filthy aka unclean can be any man or women with issue!

Ah, but the natural man cannot understand what the scriptures actually teach resty. Isaiah states it very clear - you WORKS to earn your RIGHTEOUSNESS and SALVATION (Celestial kingdom) are as menstrual cloths. Waiting for MORMON answers.

635 posted on 11/28/2009 7:45:45 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: restornu; reaganaut
For years and I don’t know if you are a retread but many took delight in the flithy rags and as a women issue which after reading more on this it is not limited to all your johnny one note! Filthy aka unclean can be any man or women with issue!

Ah, but the natural man cannot understand what the scriptures actually teach resty. Isaiah states it very clear - you WORKS to earn your RIGHTEOUSNESS and SALVATION (Celestial kingdom) are as menstrual cloths. Waiting for MORMON answers.

636 posted on 11/28/2009 7:45:45 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: metmom

Was the earth created in 6 24-hour days? You require no additional data to answer that question, do you? Why do you dodge? Don’t you know the answer?


637 posted on 11/28/2009 7:46:51 AM PST by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Godzilla
Yet how could Yahweh (Jesus' preincarnate name) be a "god" in the OT before He got his body. Inquiring minds want to know.

"OT," what about the NT.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. 5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it. (NASB)

638 posted on 11/28/2009 7:48:21 AM PST by Taxbilly
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To: restornu; Elsie
You are full of demmons what more can I say!

You know, it's inconsistent for you to complain about Christians showing lack of love when they point out inconsistencies between Mormon teachings and the Bible and then turn around and accuse someone of being demon possessed.

Perhaps you should reconsider such strong statements.

Suppose I came along and told a Mormon "You are full of demmons what more can I say!". What do you suppose the response would be by the Mormons? Shall I try it some time?

639 posted on 11/28/2009 7:48:48 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: OpeEdMunkey

Since you pinged me, Romney as a mormon is secondary to the established facts from his time as Massachusetts gov - he is pro abortion, pro gay, pro big government, and not ashamed to flip flop around and obfuscate his ‘positions’ as the need requires. That said, the thread is in the religion forum and I suggest you talk to JR about his views on romney on the main index.


640 posted on 11/28/2009 7:49:37 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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