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Ft. Hood suspect remains in coma
Yahoo-AP ^ | 11/6/09 | LARA JAKES

Posted on 11/06/2009 12:34:13 PM PST by Pontiac

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To: fireman15

Do not be deceived. This was no random act of violence or a “Falling Down” incident. This guy was a pro.


41 posted on 11/06/2009 12:55:24 PM PST by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Blueflag
He's an American citizen (or even if he was only an alien) with a valid driver's license, he could buy that weapon at many local gunstores for about $1k. Ammo is readily available, though rarer than .45 or 9mm.

No reason to go all anti-gun, track down the dealer on this. Unless he eluded any background check, no laws were violated.
42 posted on 11/06/2009 12:55:41 PM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Pontiac
AP story says Hasan used a "5.7-caliber semiautomatic pistol".

Caliber or MM? What's the difference? It's just a big, scary gun to the AP reporter. They should all be outlawed, right?

/s

43 posted on 11/06/2009 12:56:39 PM PST by matt1234
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To: Pontiac

FN Herstal Five-Seven USG 5.7x28 Pistol

With 3 - 20 Round Magazines

Black Polymer Frame

4.8" Barrel

Adjustable Sights

Penetrates body armor, Kevlar helmets and vests

Even penetrates CRISAT protection.

This item is not legal in states that prohibit high capacity magazines; including CA, HI, MA, NJ, NY WASH DC

44 posted on 11/06/2009 12:56:46 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: fireman15

The media will never ask those questions. Too hard for them to comprehend. Critical thinking is not part of their job.


45 posted on 11/06/2009 12:57:25 PM PST by Tamatoa (Fight for our America, Fight for our Country I fought to defend!!!)
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To: absolootezer0

mean little boogers, though.


46 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:11 PM PST by envisio
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To: GI Joe Fan; devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo

[But, I am willing to settle for him getting the needle.]

Along with a guard’s threat of a ‘little pork grease’ on it...! Sadly the prison system seems to be good for converting MORE muslims!


47 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:16 PM PST by potlatch (Actions Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: fireman15
NOT a "specialty gun." I have come very close to buying one myself. It is a newer firearm and the very things that made it attractive to me as an American exercising my right to keep and bear arms made it attractive to him.

The gun is not the evil here, the man is. Jeeez Louise! this place is sounding like DU suddenly.
48 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:21 PM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Tiny bullet, high capacity, high velocity. He planned this out with help.


49 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:25 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: Sudetenland

You miss my intent.

I am anything but anti-gun.

My point is about WHO (of potential interest) provided the ammo and weapon. If a legit dealer sold it, no worries. Was it a legal purchase? dunno.

My point is to follow the trail backwards to see if there are leads.

the trail might lead nowhere, but then again, it might not.


50 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:54 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Bullcrap. Do some research away from anti gun web sites.


51 posted on 11/06/2009 12:58:56 PM PST by HD1200
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To: Pontiac

They say he has been spending a LOT of time at the range lately. His internet postings should have alerted them that this was a problem person.

If we are too scared to identify the enemy, we will never defeat it. I learned that from Harry Potter. =o)


52 posted on 11/06/2009 12:59:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com .... I am a rogue nobody. One of millions.)
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To: Pontiac

No no, readily available...if somewhat expensive. ONly the specialty AP ammo is restricted to military and police use.


53 posted on 11/06/2009 1:00:05 PM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: envisio; Pontiac
'I am going on information I got. Am I wrong?"

I believe that they make two kinds of Ammo for this particular weapon, Armor piercing and a Nato or Ball-full metal jacket. The former is not available for civilian purchase, at least not in the US. The later is, but as PONTIAC pointed out, it's hard to find and expansive.

I also believe that there's only one model for the 5.7x28mm weapon that's available for purchase in the US - could be wrong. The weapon is made by Fabrique National (SP?), which is a high-end manufacturer out of Belgium who makes a couple different weapons systems for the US, including the M249 SAW.

54 posted on 11/06/2009 1:00:28 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

55 posted on 11/06/2009 1:00:34 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: envisio

yeah, one of them is up at the top of the list of guns to get if i ever manage to afford it again.


56 posted on 11/06/2009 1:00:38 PM PST by absolootezer0 (2x divorced, tattooed, pierced, harley hatin, meghan mccain luvin', smoker and pit bull owner..what?)
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To: potlatch
TEXAS HAS THE DEATH PENALTY
I would hope he lives and faces trial in Texas!!

While I share your sentiment; does Texas have jurisdiction, or the US Army? What court will end up trying him? Texas will have no problem reducing his carbon footprint - however based upon the USARMY's miserable failure to execute the scum bag who threw a gernade into the tent during the first Desert Storm - I fear that this man will live a long life.

57 posted on 11/06/2009 1:00:49 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: potlatch
TEXAS HAS THE DEATH PENALTY

I would hope he lives and faces trial in Texas!!

I doubt that he will.

He committed murder on a Federal Reservation. He was a serving Army Officer that shot serving Army personel.

He will be tried in a military court and serve out his sentence in a Federal prison.

He could possibly stand trial for treason but a don’t see that happening in Obama’s army.

58 posted on 11/06/2009 1:01:00 PM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Texas Fossil

NO it doesn’t penetrate armor. The 5.7 bullet will when shot out of a 5.7 rifle with a casing, but not the handgun. Too low of velocity, just 2,200 lbs. or so. A high velocity 22 has 1,500 lbs. Can a 22 punch a round through armor? Nope.


59 posted on 11/06/2009 1:03:46 PM PST by HD1200
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To: absolootezer0

Amen, ever since it made the top of the Brady campaign I’ve wanted one.


60 posted on 11/06/2009 1:04:11 PM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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