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Freeper theories on The Kennedy Assassination (Vanity)

Posted on 10/11/2009 7:31:25 PM PDT by Karma Police

I'm watching a collection of old news footage from the JFK assassination on the History Channel right now, and was wondering if any Freepers have any theories about what really happened.

I figure with the great wealth of knowledge here on Free Republic, there's got to be some pretty good theories waiting to be shared.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: assassination; conspiracy; historychannel; jfk; jfkassassination
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To: Eaker
Actually I do. I was busy changing poopy diapers on my oldest son.
61 posted on 10/11/2009 8:20:45 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Karma Police

Obama did it.


62 posted on 10/11/2009 8:20:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

I think I could actually believe that one.


63 posted on 10/11/2009 8:23:31 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: bannie

So the ‘68 hit on RFK was LBJ? I don’t think so.


64 posted on 10/11/2009 8:23:33 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Flatus I. Maximus
You're referring to the Donahue theory, which is my favorite as well. It accounts for all the ballistics without invoking any wacko conspiracy theories. I say wacko because no real life conspiracy, whether it was the mob or the Cubans or the KGB, none of them are or were dumb enough to use Oswald as a triggerman. "Not a team player" doesn't begin to cover it.

Oswald did it himself, probably to impress the Cubans who had just refused him an entry visa in Mexico City, and probably also the Communist party, who didn't value his talents enough.

In my arrogant opinion, the only reason we have lo these many recurring conspiracy scenarios is that movies and TV have replaced real life experience for so many people that they actually don't understand how things work in the real world. That goes for Kennedy assassination conspiracy theorists right on through to the 9/11 truthers.

Grand schemes require extensive communication, cooperation, rehearsals and more rehearsals, and something always goes wrong in execution. They make great cinema, but lousy reality. I could write reams about this, but I will be content for now with inconveniencing only slightly more electrons than dollars in the currently admitted federal debt.

65 posted on 10/11/2009 8:27:45 PM PDT by thulldud (It HAS happened here!)
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To: Karma Police

Two words Cola Wars!

Nixon at one time worked for Pepsi cola. Coca-Cola with their long time allies the Kennedy Family stole the 1960 election to keep a Pepsi man out of office. In revenge the Pepsi corporation killed JFK. At least that is most likely but I can’t say Dr Pepper might not have a hand in it being it took place near Waco, Texas.


66 posted on 10/11/2009 8:28:15 PM PDT by Swiss (Reality don't seem real anymore)
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To: Karma Police

From the Wall Street Journal
NOVEMBER 24, 2007

Oswald was a dedicated communist who had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 out of disgust with American capitalism. After becoming disillusioned with Soviet life, he returned to the U.S. in 1962. In early 1963, he bought a scoped rifle through the mail and soon used it to fire a shot (which missed) at retired general Edwin Walker, the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. In the summer of 1963, Oswald was active in street demonstrations in support of Castro. In September 1963, he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico City seeking a travel visa that would allow him to travel to Cuba.

Oswald was among the radicals of the time who saw Third World revolutionaries like Castro as the wave of the communist future. He was well aware of Kennedy's efforts to overthrow Castro's regime. As a Senate investigative committee suggested in 1975, Oswald shot Kennedy to interrupt his administration's plans to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his regime in Cuba.

Ignoring Oswald's communist links, journalists and political leaders quickly claimed the president was a martyr to civil rights. Earl Warren said that Kennedy had "suffered martyrdom as a result of the hatred and bitterness that has been injected into the life of our nation by bigots." Martin Luther King said the assassination had to be viewed against the backdrop of violence against civil rights marchers in the South. James Reston wrote in the New York Times that "something in the nation itself, some strain of madness and violence, had destroyed the highest symbol of law and order."

The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119586848318702756.html

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Lee Harvey Oswald
From Wikipedia (with lots of references at site) :

Around the age of fifteen, he became an ardent Marxist solely from his private reading on the topic. He wrote in his diary, "I was looking for a key to my environment, and then I discovered socialist literature. I had to dig for my books in the back dusty shelves of libraries."[13] At 16 he wrote to the Socialist Party of America, stating that he was a Marxist who had been studying socialist principles for "well over fifteen months," and asked for information about their youth league.[14]

While in the Marines, Oswald was trained in the use of the M1 Garand rifle. Following that training, he was tested in December of 1956, and obtained a score of 212, which was 2 points above the minimum for qualifications as a sharpshooter. In May 1959, on another range, Oswald scored 191, which was 1 point over the minimum for ranking as a marksman.[17]

Small and frail compared to the other Marines, he was nicknamed Ozzie Rabbit after the cartoon character. His shyness and Soviet sympathies alienated him from his fellow Marines. Ostracism only seemed to provoke him into being a stauncher, more outspoken communist. For his steadfast beliefs, his nickname ultimately became Oswaldskovich.

Life in the Soviet Union

In October 1959, Oswald immigrated to the Soviet Union. He was nineteen, and the trip was planned well in advance. Along with having taught himself rudimentary Russian, he had saved $1,500 of his Marine Corps salary,[19] got an early "hardship" discharge by (falsely) claiming he needed to care for his injured mother,[20] got a passport, and submitted several fictional applications to foreign universities in order to obtain a student visa (and possibly help avoid Marine Corps reserve duty).

After spending only three days with his mother in Fort Worth, he departed by ship from New Orleans on September 20, 1959, for the Soviet Union, first arriving in Le Havre in France, then to London,England and eventually Oswald to a Finnair flight to Helsinki, Finland as part of a package tour. Oswald landed to Helsinki airport in October 10 at 23.30 a.m. he registered at the Hotel Torni but two days later , he moved to the Kurki Hotel.Oswald applied for a visa at the embassy on October 12, his first business day in Helsinki. Oswalds visa was issued on October 14. It was valid until October 20 and permitted him to take one trip of not more than 6 days to the Soviet Union. He left from Helsinki Central Railway Station by train next day on October 15 to Moscow and when he crossed the Finnish-Russian border at Vainikkala, he arrived to Moscow on October 16." [21] When he arrived in the Soviet Union and showed up unexpectedly at the Embassy in Moscow, he said he wanted to renounce his U.S. citizenship.[22][23] When the Navy Department learned of this, it changed Oswald's Marine Corps discharge from "hardship/honorable" to "undesirable."[24]

Oswald told a reporter in Moscow, "For two years I've had it in my mind, don't form any attachments, because I knew I was going away. I was planning to divest myself of everything to do with the United States."[25] To another reporter he said, "I would not consider returning to the United States," and referred to the Soviet government as "my government."[26] His wish to remain in the Soviet Union was initially applauded by the Soviets, but although he had some technical knowledge acquired in the Marines they soon discovered he had little of real value to offer the Soviet Union and his application for Soviet residency was rejected.[27] In response, Oswald made a bloody but minor cut to his left wrist in his hotel room bathtub. After bandaging his superficial injury, the cautious Soviets kept him under psychiatric observation at the Botkin Hospital.[28][29] Although this attempt may have been no more than an attention-getting ruse, the Soviet government feared an international incident if he were to attempt something similar again.

New Orleans

Oswald returned to New Orleans, arriving on the morning of April 25, 1963 looking for work. After Oswald got a job as a machinery greaser with the Reily Coffee Company in May, Marina was driven there by family friend Ruth Paine. Oswald was fired for inefficiency and dereliction of duty on July 19.

During this period, Oswald began to consider returning to the Soviet Union or going to Cuba.[57] He had Marina write to the Soviet Embassy in Washington, D.C. about the possibility of their returning to the Soviet Union.[58] His Marxist ideals became focused on Fidel Castro and Cuba and he soon became a vocal pro-Castro advocate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

67 posted on 10/11/2009 8:29:35 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Karma Police
Bush's fault.

(Oh come on, enough time has passed for it to be funny again)
68 posted on 10/11/2009 8:31:11 PM PDT by ClaudiusI
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To: al baby

AL BABY you are bad ROFL


69 posted on 10/11/2009 8:31:47 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Karma Police

Lee Harvey Oswald took his rifle up to the 6th floor of the Texas Book Depository and fired three shots out of the window.


70 posted on 10/11/2009 8:36:07 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (They have a saying in Chicago Mr Bond once happenstance, twice coincidence, three times enemy action)
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To: All

NO NO NO!! Khadafy had it right when spoke in front of the UN General Assmbly, aka The VIP lounge for dictators and tyrants. The Israelis did it! And Jack Ruby took out Oswald on orders from the Moussad to keep everything hush hush. In fact, according to khadafi, Jack Ruby was Jewish! Who knew?!? But then again look at some Jewish names, GOLDstien, SILVERstein, DIAMOND...Ruby, it all makes sense!
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71 posted on 10/11/2009 8:37:42 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: FredZarguna

LOL


72 posted on 10/11/2009 8:38:10 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Karma Police

Kennedy’s been shot?
I was just sitting down with my bottle of Tab when I turned on my DuMont 17” B&W TV and heard something about this.
I’m sure that damn Pete Rozelle is going to cancel all of the NFL games this weekend because of this.
Oh well , I’m just going to take a drive in my new Studebaker Lark and forget about it.
BTW , I think Freemasons and Birchers did it.


73 posted on 10/11/2009 8:42:51 PM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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To: SevenofNine

Cuban Mafia. Over Bay-0f-Pigs and Robert Kennedy’s probes.

They say it is not nice to mess with Mother Nature and that also goes with the boys from Sicily (or Cuba).


74 posted on 10/11/2009 8:45:23 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: Ditter

LBJ was a crook, but he did not have Kennedy killed.


75 posted on 10/11/2009 8:46:37 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: MissCalico
I think it was Joe D’Maggio that killed both JFK and RFK to avenge Marilyn. What did Joltin' Joe know and when did he know it? If true, payback's a bi-itch.
76 posted on 10/11/2009 8:48:38 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Texas Fossil

Personally I think he did. But OK. Let’s just say he knew about it and did nothing to stop it.


77 posted on 10/11/2009 8:49:36 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Karma Police

for later reading...


78 posted on 10/11/2009 8:53:38 PM PDT by TheThinker
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To: al baby

If that's an alias for Thirty-Six-of-Double-Dee's big sister, I'll need to interrogate her personally.

79 posted on 10/11/2009 8:54:39 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: Karma Police
According to a felon named James File, he pulled off the headshot from the grassy knoll.

Personally, I believe Oswald did it alone, for reasons already stated in this thread, and because statements from those closest to him said he always wanted to do "something big" without having to really work for it. He got his wish.

80 posted on 10/11/2009 8:54:58 PM PDT by smedley64 (Sun Tzu trumps Alinsky.)
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