Posted on 09/23/2009 6:19:16 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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Good Morning All - Time to dig up the cannas. Sure looks a lot warmer out there than it is.
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Well, well, looks like the wait is over, the HK folks have brought out their version of the GSG .22 and their version of the Colt .22 prices seem to be in the same ballpark as the GSG and the SW 15-22s. I sure didn’t think there would be that many tacti-cool .22s to choose from.
Still waiting for the Sig 522 around here, dealers have no clue (no surprise there). The H&K? That's seems even further away than the jobs in our "jobless recovery".
well, the new ones are the umarex hk 22lr hk416 and hk mp5. Haven’t seen any tests or posts on them besides the one at Sigforum.com Mason’s Rifle Room. Guess they are on the HK website but I haven’t gone there to check.
The sig 522s are supposedly in a gunshop or two over on the east side of the state. Haven’t seen on in person yet either.
They all look nice, and I could see myself getting two out of three (I'll pass on the "stock" MP5) eventually. I hope this Walther/Umarex project will produce rifles closer in fidelity to the real thing than the GSG "MP5". The GSG-5 is still a fun, and accurate, firearm, but thought that the receiver is pot metal with the halves screwed together, still unnerves me.
I just want the Sig 522 now. It looks like it's styled like the Sig 552, and I have some ideas on "dress up" to make it more authentic.
I almost feel like it's playing with dolls, but then I look at the big bucks people spend on airsoft (including trying to get genuine weapons parts on them), and can at least console myself that I have a real, functional .22 weapon when I'm done, and not just some battery-powered plastic pellet launcher.
And now:
First, my HK94, kitted-out as an early MP5 would have been. Someone on Rimfirecentral.com said I should get a stash of the old stick mags. Well, three isn't really "a stash", but Numrich Arms had a nice package deal for three new mags and a new black-leather-and-green-canvas Bund mag pouch.
The magazines were dated from 1967 to 1976, which had to have been close to the end of the "straight stick" era.
Here it is, updated to 21st century configuration. Except for the leather sling, which hasn't been issued in ages. I guess I'll have to update that, too.
The next item comes in an unmarked OD green wooden box.
We can't tell for sure what's in it, but if it came in this box, it would all be explained in plain German.
It's our old friend, the "Uebungsshcieszgeraet, Gewehr". Opening the box confirms it's a .22lr adapter for the G3/HK91.
This is an old item, long discontinued. One of the modified magazines is dated "1977", while the other uses a date code. H&K must have switched from dates to codes at some time then.
The major components are the barrel liner and chamber adapter, and the blowback-operated bolt carrier. A vey substantial plastic magazine occupies the modified G3 magazine body. Since this is an export model, there is no manual underneath the plastic cleaning kit, since the manual was written only in German. The data card on the inside of the lid is in English, however. The woodwork is excellent, and everything is padded with high-quality felt.
Finally, a closer look at the magazine, compared to the standard 7.62. A bit of the feed lips are cut back to make room for the .22 innards, but that's about it. The paint job helps distinguish it from standard military magazines.
The last item is plainly marked, plainly military, and plainly used, at least as far as the carrying case is concerned.
Opening it up, we see a gently-used Zeiss second-generation starlight scope.
This must have gone straight from the field into storage, because there was still dried-out grass in the case underneath the inserts. The set is complete, including instructions, except for the four C-cells. It ran on two Cs.
It's especially complete with the weapons adapters still present. Below the scope, from left to right, is an adapter for the MG3, the Panzerfaust (adapter upside down), and the G3 rifle. The serial number on the data label was scratched off, taking some of the manufacturing date with it. As close as I can tell, it was made in February, 198x, probably early 1980s.
The special male/female dovetail universal mount Zeiss developed resulted a complex interface of scope-to Stanag-to dovetail-to dovetail-to Stanag-to weapon mount- to weapon. It was a quick slide-on/slide off attachment, but it added weight and height for a scope that was probably used on only one of those three weapons. Here it is, all 5.5 lbs of scope on top of 12.5 lbs of HK91. The mount is so high, I could not get enough height on the cheekpiece to see through it comfortably. If I just attached the scope to the H&K claw mount, it would probably work.
Here's another view of it, showing the crucial plastic lens cover that protects the image tube from any form of day or indoor lighting. Behind the lens cap is a gigantic catadioptic scope, the pride of Zeiss. There are three pinholes in the outer edge of the lens cap, to allow very limited testing in daylight. I was able to discern objects with the lens cap in place, but the device can focus no closer than 20 meters, so things were a bit blurry.
As you can see, it's quite a handful, but those were the days when men were men, and starlight scopes were humongous.
Thank you for attending the H&K antiques roadshow. Tomorrow, we will have a Sunday supplement covering a few other odd (or very odd) items.
You have one sweet collection there 300......last time I saw that rig was in 70’s when I was TDY on island of Crete at a brit air base there. Early version of PSG-1 ?
LOL! Insulin shock, indeed!
Duuuh!
No, it's just an early HK91 with the later wide forend (I still have the slimline), PSG-1 walnut grip (I owe myself a bit of luxury) and Magpul stock.
H&K made about a dozen variations of the stock to raise the cheekpiece whenever optics were used. The Magpul PS stock does a better job, and cheaper. H&K thoughtfully provided a see-through tunnel on the claw mount, but your specialized stock prevents you from getting your head down low enough to use it.
No, it's just an early HK91 with the later wide forend (I still have the slimline), PSG-1 walnut grip (I owe myself a bit of luxury) and Magpul stock.
H&K made about a dozen variations of the stock to raise the cheekpiece whenever optics were used. The Magpul PS stock does a better job, and cheaper. H&K thoughtfully provided a see-through tunnel on the claw mount, but your specialized stock prevents you from getting your head down low enough to use it.
That is one fine collection of H-K equipment and weaponry. Thanks very much for sharing the pictures and the information. Simply amazing. OB
No, it's just an early HK91 with the later wide forend (I still have the slimline), PSG-1 walnut grip (I owe myself a bit of luxury) and Magpul stock.
H&K made about a dozen variations of the stock to raise the cheekpiece whenever optics were used. The Magpul PS stock does a better job, and cheaper. H&K thoughtfully provided a see-through tunnel on the claw mount, but your specialized stock prevents you from getting your head down low enough to use it.
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