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1 posted on 08/20/2009 12:04:06 PM PDT by Nikas777

2 posted on 08/20/2009 12:04:52 PM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")

3 posted on 08/20/2009 12:06:07 PM PDT by ZX12R

To: Nikas777; Quix

Where do people get the idea that Satan and his demons rule over a Kingdom of Hell like God and his angels rule over a Kingdom of Heaven?

4 posted on 08/20/2009 12:07:14 PM PDT by aruanan

after the first sentence I realized it wasn’t a joke...and the bible talks about “angels” impregnating women (doesn’t it?). oy. should I read this? it’s awfully long...

5 posted on 08/20/2009 12:08:14 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)

Everyone knows that flying saucers come from Eric Cartman’s butt.

7 posted on 08/20/2009 12:08:28 PM PDT by bigbob

Perhaps that is what the space people who visited New Jersey signwriter and contactee Howard Menger in 1956 were trying to communicate. As well as telling him they were from Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, introducing him to space music and the delights of space potatoes

I've long enjoyed scifi and things like this, but I somehow missed Mr. Howard Menger's space music and space potatoes. Of course, they'd be spelled with an "e," lol.

Did he ever try to recreate this space music? Bet it really does sound like a theremin, Moog's synthesizer, lol. Too perfect a fit for it not to. Moog lived out his later years in spacey Asheville, NC ... fitting again, lol. That place has become what has got to be the neo-Pagan, Wiccan capital of this country, supposed "vorteces" and all that.

17 posted on 08/20/2009 12:34:38 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry

This reluctance to commit has infuriated some Christian groups, particularly those who promote extreme interpretations of the UFO phenomenon. On the one hand there is a group of evangelicals – mainly Americans, such as Dr Billy Graham – who have said the UFO occupants may be angels sent by God to watch over us. The best-known exponent of this idea is the Presbyterian minister Rev Barry Downing, author of Flying Saucers and the Bible. Downing appears to be open minded about aliens as part of God’s creation and to look to the scriptures for evidence of early ET contacts.

At the opposite end of the spectrum are some members of the Christian Orthodox Church 1 who find it impossible to accept that there is any goodness in the elusive and contradictory nature of UFO behaviour. The most extreme expression of this view is that there can be no ETs because life on other planets is not mentioned in the Bible. It’s a point of view that leads its proponents to a further conclusion: if there are no aliens in the Bible and the UFO occupants aren’t angels, then UFOs can only be demonic in origin.

Chapter 17, The Lonely Self (II): Why Carl Sagan is So Anxious to Establish Communication With An ETI (Extraterrestrial Intelligence), excerpted from
Walker Percy's Lost In The Cosmos: The Last Self-Help Book:

     Sagan is right in saying that despite all the claims of UFO sightings and encounters of a third kind, extraterrestrial creatures, and such, not a single artifact, e.g., a piece of metal, a bit of clothing of a visitor, a piece of tissue, a fingernail, has been recovered.
     Yet Sagan has written whole volumes promoting the probability of the existence of intelligent life on the billions of planets orbiting the billions and billions of stars in our galaxy, let alone the billions of other galaxies -- this in spite of the fact that there is no evidence that life exists anywhere else in the Cosmos, let alone intelligent life. Of all the billions of electromagnetic waves from the Cosmos received here on Earth, not a single one can be attributed to an ETI.
     Therefore, one might ask Sagan the same question he put to UFOers: Of all the countless bits of data received from outer space, the observations of astronomers, the millions of units recorded by radio telescopes, why has not a single bit of information been received which could not be attributed to the random noise of the Cosmos?
Question: Why is Carl Sagan so lonely? (pick one)
    (a) Sagan is lonely because, as a true devotee of science, a noble and reliable method of attaining knowledge, he feels increasingly isolated in a world in which, as Bronowski has said, there is a failure of nerve and men seem willing to undertake anything other than the rigors of science and believe anything at all: in Velikovski, von Daniken, even in Mr. and Mrs. Barney Hill, who reported being captured and taken aboard a spaceship in Vermont.
     (b) Sagan is lonely because, after great expectations, he has not discovered ETIs in the Cosmos, because chimpanzees don't talk, dolphins don't talk, humpback whales sing only to other humpback whales, and he has heard nothing but random noise from the Cosmos, and because Vikings 1 and 2 failed to discover evidence of even the most rudimentary organic life in the soil of Mars.
     (c) Sagan is lonely because, once everything in the Cosmos, including man, is reduced to the sphere of immanence, matter in interaction, there is no one left to talk to except other transcending intelligences from other worlds.

“...The UFOS do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects. They do not conform to the accepted natural laws of our environment....The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.~
John Keel,
UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse
pg 299
"...The phenomenon behaved like a conditioning process. The logic of conditioning uses obscurity and confusion to achieve its goal while hiding its mechanism. I could see a similar structure in the UFO stories. I am beginning to perceive a coherent picture of the ‘flying saucer’ phenomenon for the first time, now that I am pursuing the idea that UFOS may be a pyschological control system, and now that I am aware of their link to human consciousness. But I am not ready to jump to the conclusion that it is the technology of some kind of ‘spacemen.’"
Jacques Vallee,
Anatomy of a Phenomenon
pg 6

27 posted on 08/20/2009 12:56:56 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone, betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need...)

"...the first picture is a drawing made by occultist Alistair Crowley of an entity he had invoked repeatedly in 1918 and called "Lam." The second picture is a composite drawing by Ann Direnger (Contact of the 5th Kind - Imbrogno) of an "alien" type reported throughout 1980's in the Hudson.." Valley.

Aleister Crowley's Lam & the Little Grey Men

http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm

34 posted on 08/20/2009 1:54:53 PM PDT by FreeManWhoCan ("By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes.")

probably such creatures could provide us with an explanation of Obama’s origins that are more plausible than he himself has.

39 posted on 08/20/2009 2:42:58 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (this slope is getting slippereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...)

The books of Dr Clifford Wilson and John Weldon are VERY important in this area. highly recommend anyone seriously interested in this subject search those out. Also, interesting parallel between these theories and the movie Knowing!

40 posted on 08/20/2009 3:33:41 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)

Hmmm - and there’s the “Mitt Romney on Abortion” video right after this article. Coincidence,, acidental editorial, or unintended but funny juxtaposition? Anyway, it made me laugh.

49 posted on 08/21/2009 4:22:23 AM PDT by Puddleglum ("due to the record harvest, rationing will continue as usual")

Or...

What if "Demons from Hell", were, and have always been, Aliens from another planet/dimension? Now that I think of it, would there really be any practical difference?

57 posted on 08/21/2009 6:56:57 AM PDT by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)

Wow. So “God” has Earth and Satan has the other 99.99999% of the universe. What a tiny, weak god you believe in.

93 posted on 08/23/2009 7:09:33 AM PDT by onewhowatches

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