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To: Nikas777; Quix

Where do people get the idea that Satan and his demons rule over a Kingdom of Hell like God and his angels rule over a Kingdom of Heaven?


4 posted on 08/20/2009 12:07:14 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Quite right?


6 posted on 08/20/2009 12:08:20 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: aruanan
Where do people get the idea that Satan and his demons rule over a Kingdom of Hell like God and his angels rule over a Kingdom of Heaven?

Could be they take Jesus' word for it:

Mat 12:26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?

9 posted on 08/20/2009 12:14:13 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: aruanan

Er...Saul Alinsky?


11 posted on 08/20/2009 12:20:03 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: aruanan

Its all part of a well rounded education.


12 posted on 08/20/2009 12:20:13 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: aruanan

Where do you get the idea he doesn’t?

Certainly you have a point that Scripture doesn’t per se indicate that he does as typically envisioned.

He’s on a very short leash.

However, Scripture also indicates that within his boundaries and roles . . . he has authority.

So, it’s not a tooooooooo far fetched conjecture.


13 posted on 08/20/2009 12:26:10 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: aruanan
Where do people get the idea that Satan and his demons rule over a Kingdom of Hell like God and his angels rule over a Kingdom of Heaven?

From the same place they get the idea that...

1) Adam and Eve bit into an apple, causing them to be cast out (the scriptural record is silent on the KIND of fruit),

2) angels have literal wings (ornamental or symbolic figures such as Cherubim and Seraphim are rendered with wings, but actual angels are not recorded as having wings),

3) there were three wise men (the number of GIFTS recorded was three, but the number of wise men is not mentioned) who...

4) visited the baby Jesus in the manger (he was actually a "young child" by then and living in a "house". The shepherds "came with haste and found ... the babe". The wise men came later.)

...etc. etc...

The written word does not corroborate many traditions.

14 posted on 08/20/2009 12:27:05 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: aruanan
Where do people get the idea that Satan and his demons rule over a Kingdom of Hell like God and his angels rule over a Kingdom of Heaven?

Perhaps not a Kingdom of Hell.

Matthew 4:8-10.

If Satan didn't have them to give it would not have been a true temptation.

33 posted on 08/20/2009 1:44:21 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: aruanan; Nikas777; Quix; Salamander
"Where do people get the idea that Satan and his demons rule over a Kingdom of Hell like God and his angels rule over a Kingdom of Heaven?"

Symmetry.


(Oh, yeah - and the Scriptures ..... and Zoroaster ..... and Milton.)


(And a You-are-not-the-only-one ping to you, Sal.)
44 posted on 08/21/2009 2:06:58 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: aruanan

I think it has to do with what you mean by a “kingdom of hell”.


81 posted on 08/21/2009 12:27:45 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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