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Flying Saucers From Hell
forteantimes.com ^ | June 2006 | Dr David Clarke

Posted on 08/20/2009 12:04:03 PM PDT by Nikas777

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To: aruanan

I think it has to do with what you mean by a “kingdom of hell”.


81 posted on 08/21/2009 12:27:45 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: shibumi

*shrug*

But people think I’m “crazy” when I point out all the “UFO/alien miracle beings” conditioning being rammed into our brains.

I have one, simple, infallible rule regarding Christ’s second coming.

Regardless of all the “signs and wonders” shown by some “being”, if I pinch myself and it hurts, Jesus ain’t back yet.


82 posted on 08/21/2009 12:38:18 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.........)
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To: Quix

Soulless beings, brings to mind our president, democrats, and democrat congress...


83 posted on 08/21/2009 2:23:26 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Quix

I’ve always felt that UFO’s were demonic in nature. There seem to be more and more sightings these days. Signs in the heavens, perhaps?


84 posted on 08/21/2009 6:40:38 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: brytlea

Amen. And we must always be aware of what’s going on around us that fits Bible prophecy.


85 posted on 08/21/2009 6:43:56 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Buggman

Malevolent, arrogant and deceptive. Why, that sounds like Zero and his minions in the WH! Hmmmm.


86 posted on 08/21/2009 6:46:07 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

AGREED.


87 posted on 08/21/2009 7:26:17 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RobRoy
I think it has to do with what you mean by a “kingdom of hell”.

There seems to be a popular idea of hell as a place in which Satan is a ruler as God is a ruler in heaven (most recently expressed in the TV show, Reaper). I don't find that idea expressed in scripture. Presumably he is the one Paul referred to as the ruler of the powers of this dark world, the ruler of the kingdom of the air (Eph. 2:2), whatever that is, a spiritual force of evil in heavenly places (Eph. 6:12). But as far as words that are translated as hell in the NT, there is Hades (Matthew 11:23), there is Gehenna (James 3:6) , there is Tartarus (2 Peter 2:4), there is the Abyss (Rev. 20:1) and there will be a lake of fire into which Satan and those who have sided with him will be tossed (Rev. 20:10). But none of these five is described as a kingdom over which Satan rules, his demons torturing lost souls for ever and ever, as though that was a job provided for them to do by God.
88 posted on 08/21/2009 8:55:53 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I would say we are in complete agreement on this. C. S. Lewis once commented that detractors of Christianity will often prop up a Child’s version of Christianity against an adult version of any other belief and find Christianity wanting. So many non-Christians do that regarding the Bible’s clear teaching about Satan.

I found many of the Gary Larsen comics about Satan being the “boss” in “hell” hilarious, but never considered it to be close to the truth. It was like his jokes about star trek - they were jokes about a fictional character.

There is nothing funny about the real Satan though. And, as you pointed out, the lake of fire is not designed as a place where he will “rule” any more than Saddam ruled the prison in which he was held.


89 posted on 08/21/2009 9:43:23 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: Marysecretary
Soulless beings, brings to mind our president, democrats, and democrat congress...

I am starting to wonder about republicans also

90 posted on 08/22/2009 3:17:39 AM PDT by marbren
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To: marbren

I’m sure there are some. Politicians seem to change once they get to Washington. We need to pray more for them, I think.


91 posted on 08/22/2009 6:34:44 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Marysecretary

Yes.


92 posted on 08/22/2009 1:30:39 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Nikas777

Wow. So “God” has Earth and Satan has the other 99.99999% of the universe. What a tiny, weak god you believe in.


93 posted on 08/23/2009 7:09:33 AM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: Quix

I have never paid much attention to the UFO issue, mostly because I have never seen one, and do not know anyone who has seen one. I must be somewhat pragmatic, even though I am not from Missouri.

I had always assumed that people were gullible, that sightings could have natural explanations, that perhaps military secret research stuff was involved.

But, now that I have read your most informative post, Quix, it seems perfectly clear that these could be “demonic” manifestations.


94 posted on 08/23/2009 9:50:01 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: RegulatorCountry

Just spotted your post, and wanted to let you know that I agree with you. The kind of astrology condemned by the Bible is that practiced by individuals who pretend to be able to “tell the future” by “reading the stars”.

The reason this kind of astrology is forbidden is that these “fortune-tellers” are presenting themselves as “god-like”, and leading people away from the truth.

The Bible makes it quite clear that the “signs in the heavens” are created by God, for our understanding of the “times”.

To me, this means that we can properly study astrology to understand the nature of a period of time. But we can never do more than guess about specifics, because only God has that knowledge.


95 posted on 08/23/2009 10:04:28 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: jacquej

I think it’s more complicated than “mere” demonic manifestations.

Guy Malone & experts . . .

http://www.ANCIENTofDAYS.net

assert convincingly that demons are the fallen angels who lost their bodies in Noah’s flood.

Not all fallen angels did.

2 of the things God was upset with those critters about were

1. copulating with human females . . . evidently partly satan’s goal was to pollute bloodlines trying to prevent a pure Messiah . . . as well as plain lust reasons . . .

and

2. sharing war making technologies with man.

The current crops of fallen angels (ET’s) have been up to both horrors for at least 60+ years.

They will present themselves as citizens of distant galaxies.

To me, it does not matter . . . regardless of what they are . . .

AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN CAHOOTS WITH SATAN TOWARD ESTABLISHING THE SATANIC GLOBAL GOVERNMENT predicted in Scripture . . .

then that’s all I need to know. They are NOT on God’s side and are enemies of mine.

The fact that spiritual warfare use of Jesus’ Name and Blood are effective against them should be an added huge clue for the discerning or even the ‘merely’ awake.


96 posted on 08/23/2009 11:59:49 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: RobRoy

Good points.


97 posted on 08/23/2009 12:01:09 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: marbren

INDEED.


98 posted on 08/23/2009 12:01:30 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Nikas777

bttt


99 posted on 08/23/2009 12:06:31 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Quix

Thank you for the link, Quix.

I learn from each of your posts. Do not let the critics get you down, for I am sure many are challenged to think hard when reading what you have written.


100 posted on 08/23/2009 2:52:28 PM PDT by jacquej
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