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Neanderthals were likely poised for extinction
Live Science ^ | Jul 16, 2009 | Unknown

Posted on 07/16/2009 2:18:26 PM PDT by decimon

Neanderthals are of course extinct. But there never were very many of them, new research concludes.

In fact, new genetic evidence from the remains of six Neanderthals (Homo neanderthalensis) suggests the population hovered at an average of 1,500 females of reproductive age in Europe between 38,000 and 70,000 years ago, with the maximum estimate of 3,500 such female Neanderthals.

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"Because there never really were millions of them, they probably were more susceptible to some event that made them go extinct, which to me, suspiciously coincides with the emergence of modern humans," Briggs told LiveScience.

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1 posted on 07/16/2009 2:18:26 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

With poise ping.


2 posted on 07/16/2009 2:19:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

As Jack Benny would say, “Well!”. But I can think of at least one that’s still around and a member of the WH Press Corps...


3 posted on 07/16/2009 2:21:40 PM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: bcsco

Their demise was predicted in some Far Side cartoons.


4 posted on 07/16/2009 2:22:25 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: decimon
Neanderthals are of course extinct.

I don't know about that...we had a live one on here just last Friday. Thanks to the Mods, he is now extinct.

5 posted on 07/16/2009 2:28:59 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: decimon

Well, sure: First they were poised for extinction, then they dived right in. I give them a 10!


6 posted on 07/16/2009 2:30:44 PM PDT by Jagman (You comport, We deride!)
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To: decimon
mirror Pictures, Images and Photos Shirley Manson Pictures, Images and Photos

Or you could argue some of those genes are still around...

7 posted on 07/16/2009 2:30:58 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
Her name is Shirley MANson, not Shirley Neadertalsdaughter.

And don't call me Shirley!!!

What a cutie! Too bad her music is “garbage”. ;)

8 posted on 07/16/2009 2:34:18 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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To: ravingnutter
I don't know about that...we had a live one on here just last Friday. Thanks to the Mods, he is now extinct.

Well, he poised himself for that, no?

9 posted on 07/16/2009 2:36:49 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Snickering Hound

I thought genetic analysis disproved that hypothesis.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/08/080812-neandertal-dna.html

Neanderthals and anatomically modern humans likely did not interbreed, according to a new DNA study.

The research further suggests that small population numbers helped do in our closest relatives.

Researchers sequenced the complete mitochondrial genome—genetic information passed down from mothers—of a 38,000-year-old Neanderthal thighbone found in a cave in Croatia. (Get the basics on genetics.)

The new sequence contains 16,565 DNA bases, or “letters,” representing 13 genes, making it the longest stretch of Neanderthal DNA ever examined.

Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) is easier to isolate from ancient bones than conventional or “nuclear” DNA—which is contained in cell nuclei—because there are many mitochondria per cell.

“Also, the mtDNA genome is much smaller than the nuclear genome,” said study author Richard Green of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Biology in Germany.

“That’s what let us finish this genome well before we finish the nuclear genome,” he said.

The new findings are detailed in the August 8 issue of the journal Cell.

MORE AT LINK.


10 posted on 07/16/2009 2:46:16 PM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: decimon

“Neanderthals are of course extinct”

The existence of the dems prove the contrary. However, I am certainly hopeful that I can one day agree with the extinction premiss.


11 posted on 07/16/2009 4:06:01 PM PDT by Gator113 (I live in "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world." Imam Obama told me so.)
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Neanderthals and anatomically modern humans likely did not interbreed, according to a new DNA study.

More likely, no modern humans would admit to it.

12 posted on 07/16/2009 4:10:41 PM PDT by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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Thanks decimon.
The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve

in local libraries
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]
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13 posted on 07/16/2009 6:24:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Snickering Hound

Wouldn’t mind investigating her jeans . . .


14 posted on 07/17/2009 1:16:12 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: decimon
Says who?


15 posted on 07/17/2009 1:18:38 PM PDT by Snurple (VEGETARIAN, OLD INDIAN WORD FOR BAD HUNTER.)
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To: decimon

“Neanderthals were likely poised for extinction”

So, they were cool with the whole thing?


16 posted on 07/17/2009 3:15:42 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: decimon

17 posted on 07/17/2009 3:26:37 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Grimmy
“Neanderthals were likely poised for extinction”

So, they were cool with the whole thing?

Unflappable.

18 posted on 07/17/2009 3:45:00 PM PDT by decimon
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