Posted on 07/01/2009 2:14:14 PM PDT by Blue Highway
It seems like every time I venture into an Apple thread here on FR, it's similar to venturing over into Democratic Underground territory.
Personal attacks abound especially if you start criticizing Apple products or other Apple users for being naive into thinking Apple is everything their clever marketing department represents it to be.
It seems like the Mac ping list alerts the faithful flock to defend Apple to the death and that is when the claws come out and it starts to get ugly.
You said to Blue Highway — Ever considered just not buying one, rather than b*tching loudly and longly about it on internet forums?
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Oh..., no, no, no! You’ve got it all wrong. I’m afraid you’ve completely misunderstood Blue Highway’s position. You need to read it a little bit closer...
He’s saying that (of course) he won’t ever buy Mac products. That’s not the real issue here.
The real issue is that he does not want *anyone else* to buy them. AND..., if they do — he *surely* wants them to know how idiotic and stupid they are.
NOW..., don’t you feel a lot better knowing that you’re such an idiot... LOL...
[... yes., this is a joke-post... but, that’s Blue Highway’s thinking in a nutshell...]
Again, other than building it yourself can you show me that other computer makers are so much cheaper?
Thanks. I suppose I’ll wait until December, or so, to buy one.
Amen to that McGruff.
I don't think every Apple user is an idiot. Actually if someone prefers Apple over PC that doesn't bother me either. It's the poor grandmother or young person buying their first computer and they are suckered into the marketing. Best example is the new commercials Microsoft? has where a young girl (filmographer?) is looking for a sub $2000 laptop that can handle film editing. She winds up buying a laptop for $699 that can do everything she needs. Had someone not educated her, she would have bought into the hype that Apple is the laptop for editing films. There is another commercial with another young girl that would typically be drawn towards Apple and shge buys a Compaq or HP. These are the people I would like to steer towards the best bang for the buck instead of spending $2000 on a system they could get for half that price or less to do what they want instead of listening to the hype.
I agree with your entire post. I have stated several times that Apple by nature has this proprietary mindset. When you say closed hardware system I would call that proprietary. The Apple cult will disagree about your statement and mine.
You’re trying to play with my mind, BUT IT WON’T WORK!!!
Why do you make reeducation camp sound so negative??
LOL...
Actually I think the Mac is perfect for the Grandma...
And, I taught the Grandmas and Grandpas in a senior center on how to get the most out of their Macs. They were always so overjoyed at the ease of use of the computer. That was when I was in Oregon.
And my cousin has a Mac, and doesn’t know a thing about working with or maintaining computers which makes Macs so easy for her. And I never have to worry her with being infected with viruses and such. Heck! That never happens. I mean, I’ve even *tried* to infect mine and I can’t make it happen... LOL...
I actually had to help another cousin with her newly purchased PC-laptop, had the latest system on it, too. Now, on that one, I *knew* she *had to be protected* by some anti-virus software or else she was going to be in big trouble. The one with the Mac, I wouldn’t even bother insisting that she had to get anti-virus software.
The one with the Mac also has a ton of fun with the iPhoto program and her digital camera. And also, when she gets a digital movie cam, she’ll have a lot of fun with the included program to handle that, too.
Hey! If I don’t want to be *bothered* with a lot of problems and helping someone keep up their computer — I’ll recommend a Macintosh, because they won’t hardly ever bother me. But someone with a PC, that’s a different story. I might as well have them move in with me, because I’m gonna have to have my hands on that computer a whole lot to help them...
And mind you, I’m talking about the type of person that you’re talking about — which is the normal Joe, who doesn’t want to get into anything in regards to maintaining the computer, and wants something with a real easy, consistent and very intuitive user interface.
I would only send my enemies over to the PCs... LOL...
See I’d be more concerned with a Grandparent on a fixed income or a struggling young couple to be spending $2000 they don’t have for a computer they can get for $400-$500 tops. If we are talking desktops we will lower that down to $300-$400.
The whole difference to me comes down to several issues. One is the very long life of the hardware and software, and that’s typically been the case with Macs for a very long time (over a couple of decades or more, that’s been the case).
Then you’ve got the problem with viruses being absent from those Macs. It’s so absent that even though I’ve got antivirus software, I’ve wondered repeatedly to myself why I ever bother. I haven’t gotten *one single peep* out of that software — ever — on the Mac OS X system.
And in my entire experience of using Macs (goes back to the beginning of them), I have had only *one* virus total (on an earlier system, I think System 6, if I remember correctly).
That’s a *definite advantage* for anyone, and especially a senior, who is not necessarily going to be as sharp on the issue of viruses as other kids in college and/or professionals might be.
Then there’s the lack of being concerned about maintenance. They really don’t have to worry about that either. AND, with the Apple stores, you can actually go in there and discuss and talk about any problem you have with your system or a piece of software that Apple has put on your system (all the functioning and useful programs that they supply) for *absolutely free*. You don’t have to pay for courses or any high-priced consultants. It’s so darned easy.
The advantages just go on and on. For what I see, it’s “hands-down” — no question about it — I would only recommend a Mac to my Grandma or Grandpa (if they were still alive). But, I have taught Grandmas and Grandpas and they are absolutely overjoyed at the intuitive nature of the user interface. They amaze themselves at what they can do on the Macs.
So, no..., I think they save a tremendous amount of time and money by getting Macintosh.
I am using a Mac right now, and I’ll tell you why. I telecommute for my work. My VPN software is for Windows XP (no Vista). They stopped selling PCs with XP. I needed a laptop that could run XP, and they were not available at any cost. I was not willing to rebuild a machine from ground up, so what was I to do? Mac had Parallels, and I could obtain an XP license, so I went with the products available: Macintosh with Parallels.
Now, I have a Mac, and I run XP *and* UNIX, so my requirements are met. The Mac was the only machine that could do it, Microsoft screwed me out of any alternative.
That’s my story.
>> Why do you make reeducation camp sound so negative??
Yeah, I said that like it was a *bad* thing, didn’t I. So sorry.
Wow... could this be the Longest Mac Thread Ever?
Amen, La Lydia (Groucho Marx fan?) I agree.
Ed
This is a vanity from him comparing Apple/Mac/iPhone threads to Democrat Underground. I suggest those using ad hominem attacks are almost unilaterally from the PC side.
If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.
Quit being a little girl.
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