Some scientists affirm early Native presence [ Americas, 33K before present ]

Indian Country Today ^ | Tuesday, June 16, 2009 | Carol Berry

[wolfcreek]

I suspect there were some very liberal Indians who insisted on rewriting/removing proof of history, making scientific assumptions more difficult.

I prefer to believe the offspring of the aboriginal.

[BroJoeK]

"Uhmmmmm 33,000 years. That about corresponds to Dr. Louis B. Leaky’s estimate from the Calico Early Man dig in the Mojave Desert."

Not even close.

Wikipedia on Calico Early Man site

The basic problem with all the pre-Clovis sites is their evidence is still somewhat ambiguous. The earliest so far is the Meadowcraft Rockshelter in Southwestern PA, dated between 16,000 and 19,000 years old.

Meadowcroft Rockshelter

Even here, apparently, there is not enough material to define the culture it came from.

[investigateworld]

It’s been a few years since I was there, but 33 to 40,000 years was the numbers they were considering then .... my bad.

[colorado tanker]

The bathroom was the inner sanctum of a religious structure and the toilet seat was a ceremonial chest-piece.

Well, that's true, isn't it? I worship there at least once daily. :-))

[SunkenCiv]

Well, I think the Leakey estimate was a couple hundred thousand? Blam? The supposed artifacts were probably just naturally occurring flakes from rockslides and whatnot. :’) But Leakey’s general idea that human presence in the Americas far exceeded what was then the floor for dates (about 3000 years) was the real problem.

[Erasmus]

The bathroom was the inner sanctum of a religious structure and the toilet seat was a ceremonial chest-piece.

That last part would not be far off, after a night of heavy drinking.

[investigateworld]

I’ve heard that number too.
Gads, I was there when they started ....

[SunkenCiv]

:’)

[investigateworld]

I even recall some gorgeous coeds from BYU and Utah State working there......