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‘John Wayne is the United States of America’
bighollywood.breitbart.com ^ | June 11, 2009 | John Nolte

Posted on 06/11/2009 11:10:44 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

Today marks the 30th anniversary of the passing of John Wayne. To honor this great man, National Review’s John J. Miller has put together a terrific tribute. I was very pleased to be asked to contribute along with Andrew Klavan and our very own Leo Grin, Michael Long, Andrew Leigh, Andy Levy, S. T. Karnick, and others. I urge you to check it out.

It was Maureen O’Hara who said “John Wayne is the United States of America,” and that he was. Honorable, generous, brave, selfless, aware of his own flaws… The great thing about being a John Wayne fan is that he survives all attempts at deconstruction. His timeless work obviously speaks for itself, but the man himself has withstood the toughest of all critics, time. John Wayne doesn’t disappoint.

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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Yeah, Wayne played a real Marine in that one, very brave.


21 posted on 06/11/2009 11:43:06 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: liberalism is suicide

You forgot the one he should have gotten the Oscar for....The Searchers.


22 posted on 06/11/2009 11:44:12 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I think Wayne himself said that was the worst of his films, bar none.


23 posted on 06/11/2009 11:44:22 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Having watched “North to Alaska” and “Jet Pilot”, that’s saying something.


24 posted on 06/11/2009 11:45:52 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Yeah, the United States used to be John Wayne. It seems lately it’s more Andy Dick.


25 posted on 06/11/2009 11:45:56 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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To: liberalism is suicide

26 posted on 06/11/2009 11:46:33 AM PDT by oyez (To the extent veterans read it as an accusation -- and apology is owed(i.e. not given))
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To: wtc911

Not a John Wayne fan I take it?...PEE Wee Herman more your bag?


27 posted on 06/11/2009 11:48:26 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: wtc911
Wayne applied to the U.S. Naval Academy, but was not accepted.

The poem was a skit on Laugh-In, as a take-off on Henry Gibson:

(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Gibson

"Gibson's 'break-out' performance came with the three years he spent as part of the Laugh-In cast. A key character he played was "The Poet," often reciting poems with "sharp satirical or political themes".

[2] He would emerge from behind a stage flat, wearing a then-trendy Nehru jacket and a string of 'hippie' beads and holding an outlandishly large artificial flower, and say, "[Title of poem] -- by Henry Gibson." He would bow stiffly from the waist, recite his poem, and return behind the flat.

Gibson's simple-looking poem routine was a memorable enough part of Laugh-In that John Wayne actually performed it on the show once, flower in hand—although in his own inimitable style: "The Sky -- by John Wayne. The Sky is blue/The Grass is green/Get off your butt/And join the Marines!" At which point, Wayne left the scene by smashing through the flat."
28 posted on 06/11/2009 11:51:05 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves)
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To: brownsfan; MasonGal

Maureen O’Hara, soon to be 89, is alive, well and living in the Virgin Islands.


29 posted on 06/11/2009 11:53:47 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
I'm a a big fan of Wayne's, introduced my grandson to his movies. He was really good at playing heroes on screen.

But I am also a grown-up who realizes that Wayne the man fell far short of the heroes he played on screen at the most crucial time in our history. There were a lot of better established, older Hollywood actors who threw their careers to the wind (read about Robert Montegomery some time) and laid their lives on the line for the flag that you want to wrap around Wayne. He stayed home.

That fact can't be changed, it can't be excused and for me it can't be forgiven.

The guy was an icon, no doubt about that. But he was iconic for the heroic roles he played not the life he led.

30 posted on 06/11/2009 11:56:15 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You make one hundred movies or so, you’re bound to have some clunkers in there. My personal favorites are just about anything he did with John Ford - Fort Apache, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Rio Grande, The Searchers, The Quiet Man, and another one not very well known and in which he only played a supporting role, The Long Voyage Home.


31 posted on 06/11/2009 11:56:18 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: oyez

The 101ST in St Mere Eglise - I’ll be visiting there in July!


32 posted on 06/11/2009 11:57:29 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"They Were Expendable" was a great movie. Still is....
33 posted on 06/11/2009 11:58:33 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Rummyfan

Agreed, those are all great.


34 posted on 06/11/2009 12:00:07 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SpinnerWebb
Wayne applied to the U.S. Naval Academy, but was not accepted.

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So what (if true)? The USNA is a four year gig. The war was over in three and a half years. Why didn't he follow the example of everyone from Tyrone Power to Desi Arnaz (who wasn't even a citizen) and just join?

He didn't even though older men with more children did. He stayed in Hollywood and got paid. No honor in that.

Admire his work but remember that his work was pretending to be something he wasn't.

35 posted on 06/11/2009 12:00:21 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
But I am also a grown-up who realizes that Wayne the man fell far short of the heroes he played on screen at the most crucial time in our history. There were a lot of better established, older Hollywood actors who threw their careers to the wind (read about Robert Montegomery some time) and laid their lives on the line for the flag that you want to wrap around Wayne. He stayed home.

Clark Gable, Jimmy Stewart, Leslie Howard who died serving in the British forces, David Niven who served in the Royal Army and on and on.

BTW, Wayne starred with Robert Montgomery in another John Ford flick, They Were Expendable. It's a very accurate portrayal of a PT boat squadron in The Phillippines in the early months of the Pacific War. The Montgomery character is based on the real naval hero John Bulkeley.


36 posted on 06/11/2009 12:02:04 PM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Rummyfan

Agreed!..... (from post 33)


37 posted on 06/11/2009 12:03:31 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
I guess you totally miss the irony of your own post. They Were Expendable starred Robert Montegomery who, before WW2 was a much bigger star than Wayne. He was also older. He left Hollywood and joined the Navy where he actually was a PT Boat skipper.

Ford intentionally rubbed Wayne's nose in it by listing the WW2 rank of Montegomery and others in that movie's credits. Wayne was one of the few who had nothing to show.

You may idolize the actor Wayne, as for me, I'll save my respect for guys like Ford and Montegomery (and dozens of others from that time who embarassed you hero by their actions).

38 posted on 06/11/2009 12:05:06 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Rummyfan
I was born and raised in Jimmy Stewart's hometown...that's the old county courthouse in the background...It's still there.


39 posted on 06/11/2009 12:06:29 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: wtc911

I’m not diagnosing it as much as you are. I am simply watching a movie without pretense as most kids did back then on Saturday afternoon.....


40 posted on 06/11/2009 12:07:07 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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