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The Great Sphinx: Was the Great Sphinx Surrounded By a Moat?
www.RobertSchoch.com ^ | since March 2009 | Robert Milton Schoch

Posted on 06/07/2009 6:58:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

According to Robert Temple, a moat theory explains the water weathering of the Sphinx without hypothesizing that it dates back to an earlier period of more rainfall than the present. I will not address his other hypotheses, which I do not find persuasive, that the Sphinx was the jackal [wild dog] Anubis and the face seen on the Sphinx is that of the Middle Kingdom pharaoh Amenemhet II, though I note the original Sphinx has been reworked and the head re-carved... Assuming the argument that the Sphinx sat in a pool, either the water level around the Sphinx was the same as that of the surrounding water table, or the walls and floor of the pool were sealed up and watertight (and any artificial walls, such as on the eastern end, were strong enough to withstand the water pressure). (Note that the current western end of the Sphinx Enclosure is at a much higher elevation than the eastern end [see the figure on page 534 of The Sphinx Mystery by Robert Temple with Olivia Temple, Inner Traditions, 2009], yet clear water erosion is shown at the higher elevations at the western end. Since water seeks its own level, if the water in a supposed moat reached to the height of the western end of the Sphinx Enclosure, then the eastern end as well as the walls along the northern and southern sides must have been built up to a comparable height as the western end. This is independent of whether or not the eastern wall of the enclosure [= western wall of the Sphinx Temple] has a base of natural bedrock or was entirely composed of cut and placed stone.) We know that the ancient water table was well below the level of the floor of the Sphinx Enclosure...

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientegypt; egypt; erosion; giza; godsgravesglyphs; greatsphinx; robertmiltonschoch; robertmschoch; robertschoch; shesepankh; sphinx; yardang
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To: bigheadfred

What people should understand is the fallen angels bodies were killed in the flood but their spirit is still alive. Secret societies are the continuation of their teachings. We have not seen the last of them.


21 posted on 06/07/2009 10:03:36 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: SunkenCiv

That moat doesn’t need a moat monster- It has Helen.


22 posted on 06/07/2009 12:25:39 PM PDT by Redcitizen (December 21, 2012; there's change for ya!)
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To: RegulatorCountry; bmwcyle

I believe most Egyptian temples had sacred lakes or sacred pools. But if the Sphinx is way older than pharaonic Egypt, it may not have had one.

According to Edgar Cayce, there is a depository of hidden records buried somewhere around the Sphinx. It may have already been discovered, but it’s contents once more hidden away because what they say may be more than the average civilization can take.


23 posted on 06/07/2009 2:22:12 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: bigheadfred

You just have to keep it from Obama voters.


24 posted on 06/07/2009 2:24:24 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Hey GOP follow Dick Cheney's lead)
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To: bmwcyle

Obama voters—The Mushroom Crowd—The more bull**** you surround them with, the happier they get.

Actually you are right. If they ever found out the truth it wouldn’t be pretty.


25 posted on 06/07/2009 2:31:03 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I always thought the face of the sphinx looked familiar.


26 posted on 06/07/2009 4:48:53 PM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this..")
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To: SunkenCiv
No wonder it was used for artillery practice!

Equally it's no wonder that no Europeans were ever interested in carting it home as a “souvenir”.

27 posted on 06/07/2009 5:04:24 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: bigheadfred

Supposedly under the right paw, if I’m not mistaken.


28 posted on 06/07/2009 6:42:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: ApplegateRanch; Bookwoman; Redcitizen; martin_fierro; bigheadfred; Condor51

LOL!


29 posted on 06/07/2009 6:57:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Beowulf9

Yep, Schoch points out that the Sphinx couldn’t have been surrounded by a moat, and gives the reasons; he’s also the geologist who confirmed the earlier statements by non-geologists that there’s water erosion on the Sphinx, the walls of the Sphinx enclosure, and some other nearby structures — but not the Giza Pyramids. The reasons the erosion must have happened prior to the 4th dynasty include texts (New Kingdom copies of Old Kingdom records regarding repairs made to the Sphinx by Khufu; Egyptologist Rainer Stadelmann won’t go as far as 7000 years old, but does admit that the Great Sphinx antedates Khafre) and Old Kingdom-era repairs covering water erosion marks on the Sphinx and at least one of the temples in front of the Sphinx. Also, the nearby mudbrick pyramids at Saqqara, built by the 2nd Dynasty, don’t show rain-induced damage, hence they weren’t around when the Sphinx (or whatever was there before) was getting rained on.


30 posted on 06/07/2009 7:04:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: italianquaker

My pleasure. :’)


31 posted on 06/07/2009 7:04:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bmwcyle

That’s what Schoch is getting at — a moat isn’t plausible.


32 posted on 06/07/2009 7:05:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: RegulatorCountry

I also read somewhere that they did find something here in the last couple of years but what that is, is unknown. Can’t really remember so don’t quote me on that. :-)


33 posted on 06/07/2009 7:05:28 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: allmost

:’) That’s Schoch’s view.


34 posted on 06/07/2009 7:05:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bgill

:’) I figured someone would post HT at some point.


35 posted on 06/07/2009 7:06:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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36 posted on 06/07/2009 7:13:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bigheadfred; RegulatorCountry
Cayce said there were connecting chambers in the Sphinx' right paw; there's some kind of void (found by Dobecki et al) under the Sphinx' left paw, which is on the right when one faces the Sphinx. Also, there's a "robber's hole" entered from the left rump of the Sphinx (again, on the right side when facing the Sphinx) which leads down a ways into the bedrock, then the robbers gave up; it also goes up into the body a ways, possibly up toward or even to the head of the figure.
37 posted on 06/07/2009 7:26:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2025333/posts?page=31#31

There could have been two sphinxes, argues one researcher
Daily Star News | August 28, 2007 | Ahmed Maged
Posted on 08/29/2007 12:34:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1888432/posts


38 posted on 06/07/2009 7:35:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bigheadfred

I’m not all that comfortable granting much credence to Cayce, as I’m Christian, but I am familiar with his visions, and they were interesting, to say the least.

As far as Enoch, you asked if there were not several versions. There is 1 and 2. Ethiopic and Slavonic. The authenticity of 1, Ethiopic, is not at question; John referenced passages from it, as did Jesus Christ. But, I don’t question it’s lack of inclusion in the canon, since it is rather wild and quite disturbing, if taken to it’s logical conclusion.

The authenticity of 2, Slavonic, is questioned by many, who believe it to be a fraud from the middle ages. It does purport to complete the “missing” mystery aspects of 1 Enoch, so I suppose there might be some value in it. But, it remains highly questionable, both in historical authenticity and in Jewish and Christian religious aspects, much moreso than 1. It veers into distinctly occult territory. and has underpinned several modern forms of witchcraft, pertaining particularly to the purported lesser and greater “Key Of Solomon,” the mere possession of which supposedly leads to death.

The missing but anciently referenced “Apocalypse of Noah” would be a very interesting read as well.

What historical, archaeological or religious references have led to your own, scientifically unconventional beliefs regarding ancient Earth history, bigheadfred?


39 posted on 06/07/2009 7:41:51 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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http://www.egyptarchive.co.uk/html/plateau/plateau_09.html

How the Great Sphinx of Giza may have started out with the face of a lion
Daily Mail | 08 Dec 2008 | Daily Mail
Posted on 12/08/2008 12:30:57 PM PST by BGHater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2145067/posts

I Have Solved The Riddle Of The Sphinx, Says Frenchman
The Telegraph (UK) | 12-14-2004 | Nic Fleming
Posted on 12/13/2004 5:36:33 PM PST by blam
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Climate Key To Sphinx’s Riddle
Scotsman | 1-7-2006 | Jeremy Watson
Posted on 01/08/2007 11:27:02 AM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1764249/posts


40 posted on 06/07/2009 7:44:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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