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'Gay gene' theory dealt a knockout punch
One news now ^ | 5/14/2009 | Charlie Butts

Posted on 05/14/2009 11:26:07 AM PDT by mikelets456

The attempt to prove that homosexuality is determined biologically has been dealt a knockout punch. An American Psychological Association publication includes an admission that there's no homosexual "gene" -- meaning it's not likely that homosexuals are born that way.

For decades, the APA has not considered homosexuality a psychological disorder, while other professionals in the field consider it to be a "gender-identity" problem. But the new statement, which appears in a brochure called "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation & Homosexuality," states the following:

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."

That contrasts with the APA's statement in 1998: "There is considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person's sexuality."

(Excerpt) Read more at onenewsnow.com ...


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To: arthurus
Statistically homosexuality is probably in the 1-2% range.

I'd tend to agree though I've read credible sources where it might be as high as 3%. At any rate, probably no more than one-third are what I would consider hard-core incurable, including those which would not want to be cured.

I've had so many problems with these perverts (don't know if they are homo or not, but suspect that may be the cast) remarking on my privates since I am large in that area, that I go to great lengths to avoid any exposure in places like public dressing rooms .

Meanwhile, I lived in Japan nearly 14 years where I'd look like Godzilla by comparison and never got these remarks or stares one single time under the exact same circumstances. So, though I doubt that the percentage of homos between our countries is all that different, the militancy is definitely like night and day different.

41 posted on 05/14/2009 1:20:40 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Pharmboy

Sorry, but they ain’t born that way. If they were there would not be this flip flopping from male to female to both. Of course there is NO GENE because it’s a choice. There is no “choice” gene! Just like cheating on your spouse, lying, doing drugs, etc....there is no gene!

Everyone wants to blame their “differences” on something instead of taking responsibility! The drunk blames it on his Dad, the worrier on his Mom and so on. Gosh, just fess up that you have a problem and change it! Don’t force people to accept your “choices”. If you want to be gay, so be it...it’s your choice. But don’t expect me to endorse it or let you tell young kids it’s OK and lead them on to “be GAY”! Don’t FORCE society to accept your perverted desires....remember acceptance goes both ways.

BTW, I am not pointing this post directly at you...just in general.


42 posted on 05/14/2009 1:31:19 PM PDT by mikelets456
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To: apillar

We can only hope. SEeing as how they seem to be winning.


43 posted on 05/14/2009 1:36:34 PM PDT by chesley ("Hate" -- You wouldn't understand; it's a leftist thing)
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To: mikelets456
LOL! I know these were general remarks.

Well, I am in the biosciences and have always believed that for male homosexuals, a very strong genetic component exists. Here's the reasoning:

--Some individuals evidence pre-homosexual traits very early on, e.g., some little boys play with dolls and not guns, they always want to perform, dress in mommy's clothes, etc
--Why, if it indeed were a choice, would any guy choose a lifestyle that marginalizes him, gets the tar beat out of him at times and just makes life tougher?
--Something that is SO important to the survival of a species, i.e., successful coupling with the opposite sex, how could nature (or God) leave that to chance?
--Humans are very visual-cue oriented when it comes to sex; it would be, I believe, an impossible task to talk a gay guy into being turned on by breasts and women's behinds as it would be to talk you or me into liking a guy's hairy butt

And there's more from biology, but I will spare you. As far as your point about controlling their urges, well, sex is a pretty strong urge and while some can no doubt control that aspect of their behavior, for many it would undoubtedly be tough.

And while I do beieve what I have said here, I in NO WAY support their collective political agenda (gay marriage, grade school gay education, etc.).

44 posted on 05/14/2009 2:00:30 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Who ever thought we would long for the days of the Clinton administration...)
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To: dblshot

The funniest post ever!!!

Too quick, too funny.

Only thing missing is Waylon and Madame.


45 posted on 05/14/2009 2:05:12 PM PDT by job
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46 posted on 05/14/2009 2:28:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: relictele

Yes . . . and they have their proper turf, as well.

Though the UCSD Doc who taught my psychoactive drugs class said that he taught us what—25 hours or more such material beyond what he was able to teach the UCSD psychiatrists.

I’ve known a lot of fine MD’s—even some fine psychiatrists! LOL. And a surprising number of arrogant, self-serving, seemingly ignorant jerks.


47 posted on 05/14/2009 2:29:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: relictele

And a surprising number of arrogant, self-serving, seemingly ignorant jerks.

—to be fair, I can say the same about some psychologists.


48 posted on 05/14/2009 2:30:28 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: KosmicKitty

Absent, harsh, cold, distant, abusive, cruel, NONaffectionate fathers . . .

and/or smothering and/or absent, harsh, cold, distant, abusive, cruel mothers . . .

produce the most homosexuals . . .

Homosexual abuse of some significance at a critical age for that individual can easily result in such. Not implying that any such is not significant. However, not all such abuse results in homosexuality, by far.

Women who in the first trimester are carrying sons and who have a LOT of stress in their lives will have 20% above average numbers of homosexual sons, as a group.

Brothers who have a lot of older brothers have a higher incidence.

In one study, in 50% of the cases where one identical twin was homosexual, the other twin was homosexual. I don’t think the study was able to comment on environment vs genetics.


49 posted on 05/14/2009 2:37:40 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mikelets456

INDEED.

This is boot camp. All is grist for the mill.


50 posted on 05/14/2009 2:38:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mikelets456

bookmark


51 posted on 05/14/2009 2:39:43 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

INDEED.


52 posted on 05/14/2009 2:41:55 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Hacklehead

Now there’s a helluva tagline.


53 posted on 05/14/2009 2:44:15 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. 2010 awaits.....)
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To: mikelets456

bump


54 posted on 05/14/2009 2:51:14 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: arthurus

10% is gone.

even the homosexuals admitted it is not more that 2.5% in their brief to the US Supreme Court.

Figure it is 1-2% tops if not less.


55 posted on 05/14/2009 2:55:16 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Quix

Try “Methylation” for an idea of what process is probably responsible.


56 posted on 05/14/2009 2:58:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Quix

all the twin studies have been pretty much discredited.

The stress analysis is patently absurd because that would mean in times of way all the pregnant women would have a 20% explosion of homosexuals behaving births? silly.

So in times of recession the stress would produce more poofy babies?

I think the most telling studies were the ones that showed young boys who were sexually abused/statutory raped had a higher incidence of homosexual behavior in their adult years. A victim validation syndrom.


57 posted on 05/14/2009 2:59:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Pharmboy

“—Why, if it indeed were a choice, would any guy choose a lifestyle that marginalizes him, gets the tar beat out of him at times and just makes life tougher?”

Just because homosexual desires aren’t inborn doesn’t mean they are chosen. As many people are arguing here, homosexual desires might be shaped by events and circumstances in childhood.

Of course, partaking in the homosexual lifestyle is 100% voluntary.


59 posted on 05/14/2009 3:34:39 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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To: mikelets456

“Five Logical Errors of ‘Born Gay’ Ideology”

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/commentary/11579784/


60 posted on 05/14/2009 3:38:55 PM PDT by Julia H. (Remember when dissent was patriotic?)
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