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1 posted on 05/10/2009 12:14:38 PM PDT by pabianice
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Any time (time?) there is time travel in a movie except a movie about time travel, every thing and anything in said movie becomes stupid.


47 posted on 05/10/2009 1:19:29 PM PDT by yarddog
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While you clearly put a lot of effort into this review, I sincerely hope that no one takes it to heart.

Like the kid that latched onto pizza, to borrow your phrase, you clearly fell in love with Star Trek a long time ago, and bonded to that version of it. Anything that varies from the same old formula will never be pretty to you, which is a shame. Even your analysis of the movie (i.e. Uhuru is Spock's love slave?) is wildly inaccurate and marinated in bitterness.

While I'm not as similarly attached to an era of sci-fi before my time, but it seems to me the new Star Trek is old serial era Captain Midnight / Flash Gordon / Buck Rodgers seat-of-the-pants matinee fun. All the adrenaline of golden age sci-fi, but with the budget and technology to make it come alive.

Travesty! Blasphemy!

Perhaps. But it was good clean adventure in the formerly lost art of fun science fiction. It wasn't Shakespeare, but neither was Bill Shatner wrestling with a guy in an iguana mask.

48 posted on 05/10/2009 1:26:41 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (Oh, well. Back to the drawing board....)
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Did the writer of this miss the first 15 minutes of the movie? Jim Kirk in the movie grew up in an entirely different environment from Jim Kirk of the old TV show. The TV Kirk entered Starfleet inspired by his loving father. The movie Kirk had an abusive, uncaring stepfather. By changing his personality some, and with the other altered events, there is no way this one could be consistant with the last. It is a sort of “It’s a Wonderful Life” treatment of the changes caused by the sacrifice at the beginning of the movie.


52 posted on 05/10/2009 1:39:00 PM PDT by Ingtar (Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
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That’s odd...My son, and several of my friends saw the move in the past 2 days, and all of them said it was an outstanding movie.

I can’t wait to see it.


57 posted on 05/10/2009 1:41:52 PM PDT by dragnet2
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If you look objectively at Star Trek TOS, several things leap out. The first is that it is obviously a stage performance. From the actors pronounced stage makeup, to the minimalist sets, and the grand stage backdrop screens.

Most of the actors themselves were right out of the “westerns” productions, as were the guest stars. TOS had some interesting competition as well, such as Lost In Space, The Time Tunnel, The Invaders, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea, My Favorite Martian, The Wild Wild West, etc.

And TV science fiction writing had just come through the golden age of The Twilight Zone, and Outer Limits.

How about the jump from being owned by Desi Arnez and Lucille Ball, then sold off to Paramount TV, producers of an eclectic mix of TV, such as The Andy Griffith Show, Gomer Pyle USMC, Mission:Impossible, and The Brady Bunch?

Perhaps that is the biggest problem after all. The fans didn’t care about special effects, they wanted an interesting plot line, as well as some acting. Beautiful costumes and sound effects helped as well.


58 posted on 05/10/2009 1:44:13 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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This is the first bad review I have read on this.

I know a few women who went only to appease their husbands or boyfriends and loved the movie. One girl has gone back to see it a second time.

61 posted on 05/10/2009 1:46:56 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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Thank you for the review. Anything negative will piss off the Trekkies. Me, I'm waiting for the pre-prequel, showing the principal characters in kindergarten, and of course, Immaculate Conception of the main character, who at the age of 33 would record a version of Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds! True Trekkies wouldn't settle for anything less!
66 posted on 05/10/2009 2:00:32 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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Decent, but forgettable. That's my review.

I 100% agree that Urban got down McCoy perfectly.

Oh, and the idea of Kirk becoming captain of the Enterprise (Starfleet's flagship) when he's only a cadet is not believable.

67 posted on 05/10/2009 2:04:42 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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Sorry you didn't like it. My wife and I have been twice this weekend and will most likely see it again on an IMax screen in the next few days.

It is very entertaining, lovely to look at and the opening scene was brilliant in every respect and the rest of the film kept good pace.
71 posted on 05/10/2009 2:17:18 PM PDT by The Louiswu (I live vicariously, through myself.)
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I have seen many people on FR praise this movie, but the fact that Uhura and Spock(of all people)are having a love affair at the Academy is beyond ridiculous. He was raised without emotion, engaged to a Vulcan girl at age 6 and was incapable of having an affair until that part of him had been reconciled.

The original series makes Spock's personality disorders perfectly clear and for an affair to blossom with Uhura is just beyond the pale as far as I am concerned. I don't need to see the movie to know I wouldn't like it on that point alone.

Anything that messes with the time line and the character type of the original is not a good movie IMO.

79 posted on 05/10/2009 3:36:10 PM PDT by calex59
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Sorry, but I can’t agree at all FRiend. My wife and I saw it at the movie grill the night before last, and not only did we leave the theater wowed, but the audience was simply estatic post movie.

I think you defined yourself early on when you mentioned your distates for the wildly successful “Lost”. Abrahms gets his audience and this new Trek will be a blockbuster. I hope there are many more to come with this new cast. I’m stoked at the mere possibility of sequels.


81 posted on 05/10/2009 3:38:34 PM PDT by Melas
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Uhura is reduced to the love slave of young Spock (!)

Love slave? The way she pushed him into letting her on the Enterprise showed she was at the very least his equal.

An Orion slave girl is now a Star Fleet cadet, bedding every other cadet she can find (very liberated).

That is a stretch too.

86 posted on 05/10/2009 4:21:03 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (control the teleprompter, control the world)
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Is there anything as breathtakingly stupid as the scene in Independence Day, where a woman holding a kid outruns an explosion in a tunnel?
90 posted on 05/10/2009 5:03:25 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Such a pity, to see Freepers still addicted to the Hollyweird teat.)
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Ricardo Montelban had more dramatic flair in one finger than the current bad-guy actor (Eric Bana) has in his entire body. He’s a menacing as your junior high school guidance counselor.

I find this hard to believe. Actually the rest of the review too as this is the first I have heard bad about the movie. It is at 96% on Rotten Tomatoes right now with 226 reviews. That is unheard of for most movies on there, and especially for a wide release summer tent pole. In addition I have yet to have a friend dislike it. Most have put it as the best they have seen in the last year.

But back on topic, Eric Bana is an excellent actor. He is usually the best part of the movies he is in, and he has made some bad films worth watching.
93 posted on 05/10/2009 5:41:34 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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I’m a life long Star Trek and still fan and I agree with many of your points. I enjoyed the new Star Trek, but thought it should have been more faithful to the TOS canon. I gave this new version of ST a 7 out of 10 on IMDB.


94 posted on 05/10/2009 5:47:37 PM PDT by Norman Arbuthnot
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If Communist faggot Hollywood produces trash, on which point we all agree, why should anyone expect anything other than that in Star Trek Wars?

I woulds like to read a thoughtful, conservative review of this entertainment vehicle product, yes, product, and how it illustrates and betrays the infantile utopian Leftist politics of the Hollyweird crowd, because you know very well that it does!

Thank you all for boycotting Hollywood products!

95 posted on 05/10/2009 5:57:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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The guy that plays McCoy nailed it.

As for the volume — I always bring ear plugs to the cinema.


106 posted on 05/10/2009 8:08:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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I agree with every word of this review. The human equation has been lost. It’s Lost Trek now.


110 posted on 05/10/2009 10:23:24 PM PDT by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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Excellent review. I agree.

The complete destruction of the Trek universe timeline was cheap and disgusting.


112 posted on 05/11/2009 12:54:09 AM PDT by Chet 99
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simply discards any sense of reality and ends this story with Kirk in command of Enterprise without having had to bother with inconveniences like advancing through the ranks by proving competence and maturity and receiving the endorsement of his superiors – a process which actually take 21-22 years in the real military

"HERE'S TO SICKLY SEASONS AND BLOODY WARS." - Famous British toast.

And as an example of promotion jumps.
Pershing - Captain to Brigadier.
Custer - 2nd Lieut. to Brigadier(Brevet)

122 posted on 05/11/2009 8:11:17 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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