Posted on 04/22/2009 1:47:15 PM PDT by VinL
The former NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell has claimed that aliens exist and their visits are being covered up by the United States government. Mitchell is in good company in his beliefs. Here we highlight 12 other public figures...[Snip]
Ronald Reagan, US President from 1980 to 1988, "I looked out the window and saw this white light.It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said, 'Have you ever seen anything like that?' He was shocked and he said, 'nope.' And I said to him: 'Let's follow it!' We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light.We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it." [snip]
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
However, in all fairness, do you really think an eleven year old in 1947 America, after gazing briefly upon a pile of debris, has the technical knowledge to be an authority to ”recognize its unique properties” and to judge whether it be of “human manufacture”?
“No flame, I agree. I don’t think there are ET’s, but publish the info- I have an open mind.”
Obviously my post assume they have something more than nothing to publish, but assuming so, there may be good reasons not to. I modified this post from another thread.
i guess the biggest issue world governments face on reporting and stating that they have had contact or at least verified that advanced tech visitors/vessels have been seen is they open a monstrous can of worms which has a good chance of ending badly for them and their serfs, at least in the industrialized world..
Suddenly throwing out the fact that there is a much more powerful entity(ies) observing us will have unpredictable social effects, and if there is anticipation of any trade/tech sharing/acquisition, basic elements of our economy might become worthless overnight, etc., with the related employment issues.
Just one example from my own area of knowledge or semi-expertise - imagine a major commodity (say gold) suddenly falls 90% in value because it is known to be a trade good the other party has in abundance. Aside from wiping out fortunes (mainly held by governments), the losses on the futures contracts will take down clearing firms, after gold is lock-limit down for a month or whatever. That is just one example. Imagine it in any industry that might be supplanted by sudden excess supply, or even the perception that said industry is about to be superceded. Entire chunks of the fortune 100/500 might be worthless overnight.
Basic social controls could very easily begin to break down.
The chain of possible effect could be an absolute disaster *for all of us*, and that is without even discussing ET.
Get enough instability in the right places, and regional wars are a distinct possibility.
There are some professionals in their area of expertise stating clearly that things have happened that were of technology unknown to us (JAL flight over alaska, for example), in some cases in which they were directly involved. I perfectly understand why the government would simply contain and suppress it, and why the media would go along. They have no choice at all, the alternative is chaos and the loss of their own power.
The topic still fascinates me, though.
Good question. All I can say is that the mind of an eleven year old is like a sponge soaking up all kind of data especially when it is confronted with something this unique. All I could do is compare the debis with familiar material, and decide that this is not like anything I had seen before or since. Thanks for the question.
One of my favorite Clinton stories was when he first entered the Oval office he asked for the “Elvis” file and the file on UFOs.
UGH!
“General Douglas MacArthur, the Korean and Second World War soldier, said in 1955 that “the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets. The politics of the future will be cosmic, or interplanetary”. “
Uhhhhh....
Certainly not brilliant, just open minded. Lack of evidence only means everything is suspect, and we lack the big facts.
The conventional explanation is the strange lettering on the debris was manufactured in a toy factory!
http://www.csicop.org/si/9507/roswell.html
For me the strongest argument against the Roswell alien craft claims is that none of the eyewitnesses seem to have taken the trouble to document their observations back in 1947. So far as I know, we have no diaries or affidavits prepared at the same time as the supposedly shocking events. We have apparently sincere documents prepared 40 or 50 years later. These are obviously subject to the games that memory plays on all of us. However, I am sufficiently intrigued to read a couple of books on this subject, and then I will make up my mind.
The strange lettering was supposed to be Scotch tape with flowers used to afix aluminum foil to bulsa wood kite sticks. I had a meeting with Dr. Moore who was project manager of the Mogul Balloon and he showed me what they thought I had seen. It was not even close. :-)
Oh, those little nagging questions...like the origin of the universe, does life exist outside of this planet. You know.
I've seen things through the eyepiece of an optical telescope that I could not identify. One such object, or point of light was certainly well outside of our atmosphere, and beyond moon as a matter of fact. I have no idea what it was, but it appeared to be moving rapidly, and disappeared out of the eyepiece field of view. I have a few hours experience behind an eyepiece, and I was pretty much blown away by that. So you understand, I am not suggesting it was a flying saucer, or some type of craft.
I don't know what it was, but I'm pretty sure I know what it wasn't.
So you know, I've spent literally thousands of hours looking at objects outside of this world and obtaining extreme low light film and digital images of deep space objects. Not to mention lunar/asteroid and planetary images.
But thanks for the tip.
I've seen that on one of the several UFO TV shows that fairly present both sides. It's because the all seeing, all knowing infallible government fascists kept them from scribing even the most threadbare of accounts.
It's interesting how the further away from the event, more and more people tell more and more vivid versions of the story.
Mostly, unsupported second and third first hand accounts, of course.
“It’s interesting how the further away from the event, more and more people tell more and more vivid versions of the story.”
That’s certainly a danger. There’s no doubt in my mind that jesseam is sincere, and rather credible. I do have doubt whether memory is reliable when the account is first written down 40 years or so after the event. We do know that people have been wrongfully convicted due to faulty eyewitness testimony days after an event.
It seems to me that if Anne Frank could keep a diary with the NAZIs breathing down her neck, one of the eyewitnesses at Roswell might have made a written record of these miraculous events in 1947, if that’s the way they perceived them in 1947.
Anyway, I’m still going to read a couple of books on this subject before deciding what to think. There is much to ponder here.
If the debris was from a aircraft accident, he would not have brought it home. No, this was unique and that was why he brought it home. Warm Regards
This is the best web article I’ve found on the 1947 Roswell incident. It is long, but well worth reading:
http://www.roswellfiles.com/storytellers/KentJeffrey1.htm
For anyone who hasn’t already seen it, I also recommend the classic Japanese film that dramatizes the theme of subjective perception:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0042876/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashomon_effect
Great links.
Thanks.
The part that Einstein himself didn’t . . . at least publically . . . understand.
Dr Jesse is quite on record in a number of places.
He might even be persuaded to share publicly with FREEPERS generally where to catch some of his presentations.
I’ve enjoyed listening to him in person as well as on the net. He’s one of my most favorite people in the whole subject area.
He retains his Christian faith yet was in on the ground floor . . . so to speak . . . as he has noted publicly hereon . . . at the Roswell Crash.
Hint . . . he’s noted he was an 11 year old boy when he saw the material.
That fits only one person in the history of the phenomena of that era and that place, that time, that incident.
Add in his technical training . . . and Iraq work . . . anyone that doesn’t immediately figure out who he is
is just horribly ignorant of the topic.
So, I wonder how many naysayers would be still clueless! LOL.
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