Posted on 04/06/2009 3:06:15 PM PDT by mainestategop
I have been hearing rumors that Hr 169 would allow Obama to grant eminent domain powers to China, that effectively we have just given them the power to forclose on us and take everything away if they desire. If this is true, then in 3 years USA will belong to Peoples republic of China.
Can anyone verify this?
more details please
Ping!!!
First, the Chinese will have to take it away from the Peoples Republic of Obama.................
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say this is bunk.
To amend the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve Act of 2000 to explain the purpose and provide for the administration of the Baca National Wildlife Refuge. (Introduced in House)
HR 169 IH
111th CONGRESS
1st Session H. R. 169 To amend the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve Act of 2000 to explain the purpose and provide for the administration of the Baca National Wildlife Refuge.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
January 6, 2009 Mr. SALAZAR introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Natural Resources
A BILL To amend the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve Act of 2000 to explain the purpose and provide for the administration of the Baca National Wildlife Refuge.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. PURPOSE AND MANAGEMENT OF THE BACA NATIONAL WILDLIFE REFUGE.
Section 6 of the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve Act of 2000 (16 U.S.C. 410hhh-4) is amended--
(1) in subsection (a)--
(A) by striking `(a) Establishment- (1) When' and inserting the following:
`(a) Establishment and Purpose-
`(1) ESTABLISHMENT-
`(A) IN GENERAL- When';
(B) in paragraph (2), by striking `(2) Such establishment' and inserting the following:
`(B) EFFECTIVE DATE- The establishment of the refuge under subparagraph (A)'; and
(C) by adding at the end the following:
`(2) PURPOSE- The purpose of the Baca National Wildlife Refuge shall be to restore, enhance, and maintain wetland, upland, riparian, and other habitats for native wildlife, plant, and fish species in the San Luis Valley.';
(2) in subsection (c)--
(A) by striking `The Secretary' and inserting the following:
`(1) IN GENERAL- The Secretary'; and
(B) by adding at the end the following:
`(2) REQUIREMENTS- In administering the Baca National Wildlife Refuge, the Secretary shall, to the maximum extent practicable--
`(A) emphasize migratory bird conservation; and
`(B) take into consideration the role of the Refuge in broader landscape conservation efforts.'; and
(3) in subsection (d)--
(A) in paragraph (1), by striking `and' at the end;
(B) in paragraph (2), by striking the period at the end and inserting `; and'; and
(C) by adding at the end the following:
`(3) use decreed water rights on the Refuge in approximately the same manner that the water rights have been used historically.'.
Sounds like an email hoax to me.
Can't win.
My friend Tim says this is true and he can verify it, but he might be yanking my chain.
This comes up now and again.
I’m not particularly concerned.
Even if the story is 100% true, were they to actually try to carry out the eviction/foreclosure/condemnation, it would probably pose unanticipated difficulties.
U.S. Govt Grants Eminent Domain as Collateral to China for US Debts (Details in description area)
China has eminent domain to U S /USA is OVER!!!!!!!
URGENT!!! If this is True, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS NOW OVER!!!!!!!!!!
Admiral Yamamoto once said that they could never invade the US because there would be a rifle hiding behind every blade of grass.
This is just a variation of the same hoax which claimed that Secretary of State Clinton had negotiated such an agreement.
That’s gonna change now that Obama is in control.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2196426/posts?page=31#31
That’s the thing, if there’s an eviction/foreclosure/condemnation, then it’s not eminent domain. In any case, this won’t happen because API has the Michelle Obama tape.
What I found. Unsure as cause I don’t listen to, nor have I heard of Hal Turner.
http://www.halturnershow.blogspot.com/2009/02/feds-grant-eminent-domain-as-collateral.html
February 26, 2009
FEDS GRANT EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS!
Beijing, China — The United States of America has tendered to China a written agreement which grants to the People’s Republic of China, an option to exercise Eminent Domain within the USA, as collateral for China’s continued purchase of US Treasury Notes and existing US Currency reserves!
On February 11, Bloomberg Business News reported that China was seeking “guarantees” for its US Government debt (Story Here), and it now appears they got it. Well placed senior sources at the US Embassy in Beijing CONFIRM the formal written agreement was delivered by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during her recent trip to China.
This means that in the event the US Government defaults on its financial obligations to China, the Communist Government of China would be permitted to physically take — inside the USA — land, buildings, factories, perhaps even entire cities - to satisfy the financial obligations of the US government.
Put simply, the feds have actually mortgaged the physical land and property of all citizens and businesses in the United States. They have given to a foreign power, their Constitutional power to “take” all of our property, as actual collateral for continued Chinese funding of US deficit spending and the continued carrying of US national debt.
This is an unimaginable betrayal of every man, woman and child in the USA. An outrage worthy of violent overthrow.
Eminent Domain is the power of government to TAKE private property for public use without the consent of the property owner. Under our Constitution, the government can only “take” when providing “just compensation” for what they’ve taken.
Who decides what constitutes “just compensation?” The government!
in past “takings” homeowners who felt the government was not paying them enough for property have filed lawsuits. In absolutely every such case, the value placed upon the property by the government was upheld by the courts.
Our federal government has now granted to China, this power to “take” our homes and businesses in the event the US Gov’t defaults on its debts.
Let’s play this out as a worst case scenario. . . . . .
The US Gov’t goes belly-up and China comes in and says, “they owed us $700 Billion in Treasury Notes and another $2 Trillion in actual cash money which is now worthless. We are taking the entire state of Hawaii and the entire state of California in lieu of this bad debt. “
With the stroke of a Chinese chop stick, Hawaii and California — all the land and buildings in those states — are now owned by China.
The “taking” would be a “valid public use” because it was “taken” in payment of the public debt!!!!
China could then turn around and declare the value of all that land to be worth. . . . . I dunno, ten cents on a dollar?
If you own a $200,000 house in either state, you get a Chinese check for $20,000.
Needless to say, the property owners would go ballistic and demand “just compensation” for what was taken. Who gets to decide what is “just?” China!
Don’t think you got a fair price for what they took? No problem, sue China. You’ll lose.
People who live in those states and own their land outright, might be able to negotiate with China to “rent” back what used to be their own property, as long as they continue to pay all their taxes (to China) ; but the land and buildings would belong to China!
This is what our own Government has just done to us and it is the single most vile act of betrayal in the history of human existence.
State Governments Knew This Was Coming
In early February nine U.S. States began the process of re-asserting their Sovereignty pursuant to the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the US Constitution; declaring null and void any actions by Congress that violated the Constitution.
At the time, I wrote about those state efforts (Here) and wondered why so many states were taking-up such an arcane issue in such a seemingly urgent fashion. I guess now, we know why.
The states were obviously privy to what the feds were planning to do with granting Eminent Domain to China. The states took action to make certain the feds couldn’t give away cities or the states themselves!
This situation is going to get VERY ugly, VERY fast as one sovereign power (the feds) tries to literally give away the land of other sovereign powers, (the states). This is the type of thing that starts Civil War.
Our present federal government makes the treachery and betrayal of Benedict Arnold look like child’s play.
Also:
www.liveleak.com/view?i=0f8_1235673139
educate-yourself.org/cn/ottchinaeminentdomain27feb09.shtml
atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/02/obama-grants-eminent-domain-rights-to-american-land-to-china.html
I’ll let more knowledgeable folks respond and report on this.
Banning sales is one thing. Confiscation is another. The blades of grass thing works for him too.
I don’t know the proper legal term for when they take your property by Eminent Domain; my best guess is “condemnation”, but I’m not sure.
Yes, but a condemnation does not follow from a foreclosure. This emmail banks (pun intended) on confusion between the two.
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