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American Idol 2009--Live Thread II
americanidol.com ^ | 3-17-09

Posted on 03/17/2009 5:57:44 AM PDT by silent_jonny

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To: skateman

Are you really so stupid? Please don’t waste any more of my time.


10,121 posted on 05/10/2009 9:19:19 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: nufsed

Why do you want to fight so badly?


10,122 posted on 05/11/2009 12:17:57 AM PDT by skateman (Larraine, where have you gone?)
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To: sirchtruth

” Tell those 10 guys to compete next year. I don’t think they will make final 3 like Adam....

LOL! Why? They’re not AI types, but really neither is Adam. I am almost ready to declare Adam will not sale as many albums as some of those which have gone home already this season. The girly-boy can sing, there is no doubt, but can he create music? I doubt it! “

Ok. Let’s agree to revisit who sells the most.

That’s a good measure in the end.

I think he will sell. How much will be tested by his own creativity, not remakes so we agree in that regard.


10,123 posted on 05/11/2009 6:36:34 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: skateman

Stop attacking me.


10,124 posted on 05/11/2009 6:40:00 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: skateman

And for God’s sake stop asking those assinine questions. Think before you post. Or better, please shun me as your betters have instructed you.


10,125 posted on 05/11/2009 6:41:41 AM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: patriotspride
Does anyone know if this is a pure viewer vote, or do the judges get an x percent vote themselves, and the winner is determined from a combination of the two ?

It's supposedly a pure viewer vote. The judges, Simon at least, probably see the raw totals after the results shows, and can often read the trends to predict a winner in advance.

There's also the weasel-language in the fine print shown during the credits that allows 19E to exclude votes that they deem come from "robo-calling". I imagine that they've selectively enforced this on occasion to tip a close vote one way or the other.

For the most part, though, the judges and producers limit their manipulation to simply influencing the voters, whether through the post-performance comments, performance order, or other "production" issues (lighting, backdrops, etc.).

10,126 posted on 05/11/2009 9:46:28 AM PDT by kevkrom
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To: kevkrom

” It’s supposedly a pure viewer vote. The judges, Simon at least, probably see the raw totals after the results shows, and can often read the trends to predict a winner in advance.

There’s also the weasel-language in the fine print shown during the credits that allows 19E to exclude votes that they deem come from “robo-calling”. I imagine that they’ve selectively enforced this on occasion to tip a close vote one way or the other.

For the most part, though, the judges and producers limit their manipulation to simply influencing the voters, whether through the post-performance comments, performance order, or other “production” issues (lighting, backdrops, etc.). “

Thanks. I was wondering about robo calling. Good they can
filter that.

Agree on the feeling Simon must see something. After all he’s the producer, and it would help him to know how things are going by means of viewership/interest for upcoming shows/seasons.


10,127 posted on 05/11/2009 12:16:19 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Seems Adam didn’t have near the crowds that Danny and Kris generated. And, oh so fitting...he sings a Michael Jackson song! lol


10,128 posted on 05/11/2009 1:35:01 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: patriotspride
Ok. Let’s agree to revisit who sells the most.
That’s a good measure in the end.
I think he will sell. How much will be tested by his own creativity, not remakes so we agree in that regard.

Ok, this sounds like a plan. How much original stuff is sold. What is usually the time frame, because he has to do the idol thing first, so when can he release his own stuff?

My thought is Chris will sell more than Adam over all.

10,129 posted on 05/11/2009 2:06:03 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: kevkrom

“Kara is an idiot.”

Granted, Kara is an idiot as a judge. But she has been successful in the recording industry, and I think she has a general feel for how Adam will be marketed—stadium rocker appealing to baby boomer women.


10,130 posted on 05/11/2009 3:03:31 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: sirchtruth

“What is usually the time frame, because he has to do the idol thing first, so when can he release his own stuff?”

I believe none of them can do anything until the Idol tour is over at the end of the summer. Usually the winner releases their album first, promoted by 19E. I believe the others can go with the same if they are offered or seek out their own deals elsewhere. As someone posted earlier, one is almost better off not winning if they want to have more control over what they are going to record. The winner has to pretty much do as they are told by Idol.


10,131 posted on 05/11/2009 3:06:48 PM PDT by Fu-fu2
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To: nufsed

When the sign up dates clearly indicate that you are wrong, how is it asinine to ask you how you got your statement/claim that you have been around 4 months longer than kevkron?


10,132 posted on 05/11/2009 3:12:12 PM PDT by skateman (Larraine, where have you gone?)
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To: skateman
I asked you to think before you posted. You're in violation of that. You don't have the intellect or analytical ability to see any options beyond your own preceived limited thought process.

You're wasting my time by lighting up my Post notices and drawing me to your useless, juvenile comments.

You and your leaders have called for me to be suspended or banned. You have flagged the mods to investigate and get rid of me. You have called me a woman. Your friends have called me gay because I think some gay guy is the best singer. You bring up old comments to stir up old issues which have been addressed.

Now, you are stalking me. I asked you to stop twice today. Please stop, for God's sake. What kind of sick person are you? You're bordering on psychotic.

10,133 posted on 05/11/2009 3:19:46 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, school and passport records.)
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To: NinoFan
I think there’s no doubt about who is the gayest on this thread, LOL. Oh, you meant on Idol? My bad.

LMAOPIMP! Oh, that was so good!!

10,134 posted on 05/11/2009 3:29:36 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: America_Right

I did not mean that she should be a pop singer; that’s what I meant by well managed. She shouldn’t be made to sing “pop”, her voice is way too big for that and certainly not mediocre enough for pop.
I truly hope she finds her own niche and is able to create some great music. She has such a gift!

SZQ


10,135 posted on 05/11/2009 3:47:54 PM PDT by homegroan (Proud to be a Palinite!)
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To: kevkrom
Everyone at 19E, at least. I would have preferred Allison vs. Kris, as I think they're the only two with real commercial recording potential.

Here's the thing about Kris. He has the most original artistry. In my book anyone who take take a song like "Ain't No Sunshine" and arrange it the way he did is tops in my book. Honestly, I don't know if Kris arranges his songs, but every other song he does is original and he performs it uniquely well.

Kris might not be the most talented singer, but he makes me want to listen to his arrangements.

10,136 posted on 05/11/2009 3:59:37 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: skateman
That hemorrhoid is a retread, just ignore it.
10,137 posted on 05/11/2009 4:05:20 PM PDT by Netizen
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To: Fu-fu2
As someone posted earlier, one is almost better off not winning if they want to have more control over what they are going to record. The winner has to pretty much do as they are told by Idol.

This is what I've heard, but never have been sure this is the way it works, but it would make sense.

10,138 posted on 05/11/2009 4:27:40 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Gravity Of The Situation...)
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To: Netizen

Yup, good advice from you that I plan to follow.


10,139 posted on 05/11/2009 4:39:03 PM PDT by skateman (Larraine, where have you gone?)
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Greg Pritchard: 'Britain's Got Talent' Show 5

Simon Cowell: "That shouldn't have just happened... like a dog meowing."

10,140 posted on 05/11/2009 4:42:14 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture (RECALL Abel Maldonado; DEPORT Arnold Schwarzenegger; NO on 1A, 1B, 1C, 1D, 1E, 1F)
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