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Obama's Agents At FactCheck.org Obama's Agents At FactCheck.org
THE OBAMA FILE ^ | 2/17/09 | Beckwith

Posted on 02/17/2009 2:09:42 PM PST by Fred Nerks

I was recently engaged in an exchange of emails with my buddy Fred Nerks from Oz that prompted me to revisit FactCheck.org, where the Annenberg-funded website has published a web page entitled, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate."

The information on this page is 100% bovine excrement.

FactCheck.org's Summary

1. "In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate..."

This statement is false -- the campaign released a "Certification of Live Birth." The document presented on this website is not now and never has been a birth certificate, and FactCheck.org knows it. So why did they publish this lie?

2. "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate."

This statement is also a lie -- the only people that have seen, touched, and examined Obama's birth certificate is Chiyome Leinaala Fuikino M.D., the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, and the Registrar of Vital Statistics.

Fuikino wrote, "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record."

So your conclusion, "We conclude that..." is false, because your conclusions are based on a false premise -- that you have seen Obama's birth certificate -- you haven't, because the State of Hawaii won't release it. What do you think is going on in the 48 lawsuits against Obama. These suits are all trying to get to Obama's birth certificate and 48 times, judges have said, "I can't go for that, ohh, no, I can't go for that."

3. "Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu."

Complete fabrication and bold-faced lie -- what Fuikino wrote was, "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Nowhere in that statement does it say Obama was born in Honolulu, and here is the complete statement: -- check it out yourself.

And, nowhere does FactCheck.org identify the militantly partisan website that released the "Certification of Live Birth" -- The Daily Kos -- one of the wackiest websites extant. This FACT alone makes this entire scenario suspicious, if not patently ridiculous.

FactCheck.org's Analysis

1. FactCheck.org's own analysis confirms what I wrote above, under Summary.

2. FactCheck.org presents a photo of a "Certification of Live Birth," captioned, "The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller."

That's a lie, as well -- the document in this photo is a "Certification of Live Birth" (getting tiresome, isn't it) -- not a birth certificate. They are different documents, and the folks at this mendacious organization know the difference -- Joseph Goebbels would be proud of FactCheck.org's big lie.

FactCheck.org presents a photo image of the document further down the page, under Analysis -- That document is not a "birth certificate." It is a "Certification of Live Birth," again, FactCheck.org knowingly misrepresents the document as something it is not, and it's not even the document that was released.

Here is the document that was released to The Daily Kos. The original document released had its Certificate Number blacked out -- and if one looks at the document, it says at the bottom, "ANY ALTERATIONS INVALIDATE THIS CERTIFICATE" -- even if the document were genuine -- it isn't VALID.

3. FactCheck.org published several other images defending its false presentation on this page.

4. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.

A birth announcement could have been easily phoned in to the newspaper from anywhere in the world. This "fact" is inconclusive, unless you know who provided the newspaper with the announcement, the means they used, and where they were physically located at the time.

FactCheck.org's Anal-ists

FactCheck.org identifies their anal-ists as Jess Henig and Joe Miller. OK, that's fine, but who and what are Jess Henig and Joe Miller? Are they qualified to make an analysis of ANY document, or are they just a couple of guys hanging around FactCheck.org's office, or are they political operators? What are their bona fides? FactCheck.org doesn't say. Wonder why?

FactCheck does say their, "representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago." In my mind, that clearly shows they were working with and for the Obama Campaign and that Obama and his people are involved in this lie.

Lie? Hell, this is a conspiracy and FactCheck.org boldly admits their part in it.

I prefer to give credence to Dr. Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers and typewriters, who provides conclusive and irrefutable evidence that the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) image created and distributed by Obama's campaign to the Daily Kos, Annenberg's Factcheck, and the St. Petersburg Times, and Politifact, is, unquestionably, a false identification document. Here, is his final report.

A second expert forensic document examiner Ms. Sandra Ramsey Lines has filed an affidavit associated with one of the lawsuits, stating the following:

1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an address at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.

2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from "Ron Polarik." After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the "Daily Kos," the Obama Campaign, "Factcheck.org" and others cannot be relied upon as genuine.

My Comments

Since the title of the FactCheck.org web page is, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate," everything on the page is a bold-faced lie, because FactCheck.org has never, ever seen Obama's birth certificate and every image and reference is to a Certification of Live Birth.

Hawaii is notorious for its issuance of COLB's. Click here to see a large copy of a beautifully printed Certificate of Hawaiian Birth (If you click it, it will get bigger or smaller). It belongs to Sun Yat-Sen, the Father of Modern China, who was born in China.

This Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, dated March 14, 1904, was issued after Dr. Sun signed a raggedy type-written statement affirming that he was born in Hawaii on Nov. 24, 1870. Sun Yat-sen was born on November 12, 1866, to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county , Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau), not Hawaii, as this document affirms.

We know Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama's sister has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth too, and she was born in Jakarta, Indonesia.

None of this is surprising, since this website is funded by the same fine people who fund Obama's buddy, the unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. They represent themselves as unbiased and non-partisan. That, of course, is just another lie.

This "birth certificate" controversy is not nearly as important as the fact that Obama is not a "natural born citizen."

"To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed..."

George Orwell, "Nineteen Eighty-Four"


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KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; eligibility; factcheck; factcheckorg; forgery; obama; obamaforgery
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To: LucyT

Go offshore. Or go on the road with several RVs and keep moving, this is a surprise and I fancy something nasty is about to happen.


21 posted on 02/17/2009 2:58:45 PM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: LucyT

Details please! Why was the injunction issued, under what premise? Who asked for it? Who issued it. Details please, then we fight!


22 posted on 02/17/2009 3:02:03 PM PST by JoeA (JoeA / welcome to third world politics.)
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To: LucyT
The Leftists know that good, heartland Conservative people are also law-abiding, and they count on it.

How is it that these people get one injunction and immediately close up shop, while one conscious tax cheat is SecTreas, a former Senate Majority Leader stole $125K from Americans in unreported income, a House Rep failed to pay taxes on offshore income and abused rent control laws, another Congressman failed to report rental gifts for 5 years, and they ALL knew what they were doing when the did it?

Let's see the strong-arm of the IRS or the FCC come down on Plains Radio. Let's see Hale being dragged out of his studio like he's Elian Gonzales.

-PJ

23 posted on 02/17/2009 3:03:03 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: LucyT

This does not pass my smell test.

Please post the injunction.

This has the smell of Tinfoil-hat land


24 posted on 02/17/2009 3:04:56 PM PST by Nokia
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To: Political Junkie Too

Were they only broadcasting on the internet?

If so we need to get this story to Sean Hannity.

We really need more details on this.


25 posted on 02/17/2009 3:06:54 PM PST by wewereright
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To: mojitojoe
Because when the truth comes out, and it will, they are accomplices and will be charged with a crime and imprisoned most likely.

Been thinking about that for a long time - I can't think of better motive for attempting to discredit Freepers around the clock, in relays, as they do...with access to the research materials 'they' have and an entire organization behind them FReepers have stood up extremely well.

Guess there'll be some consternation in the obot camp tonight! Expect some pretty heavy flack...methinks we are homing in right over the target.

26 posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks (We've got to get him out of that White House!)
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To: LibertyRocks
Do we know which court issued this injunction? Also, relevant would be WHO requested the injunction in the first place... Prayers for Ed Hale and his wife.

Nothing, no details as of yet.

27 posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: LucyT; SE Mom; Bahbah; penelopesire; Miss Didi; rodguy911; Grampa Dave; gpapa; pissant; Velveeta; ..

~~ Plains Radio ordered off the air ......... PING!

I’d LOVE to know how this was engineered.
Is it possible his licenses, etc. weren’t
valid, or is this the beginning of O’s
hit squads?

Anyone who finds out, please ping me, hoosiermama or
lucyt. Thank you.


28 posted on 02/17/2009 3:07:54 PM PST by STARWISE ( They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter))
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To: LucyT

Let me understand, this was internet “radio” so what is this “off the air”???
FCC can suspend radio licenses of broadcast stations, but who has authority to stop cable or internet “broadcasting” ???
This is outrageous! What’s next? Stop people from speaking???
Communism on the march. Time to revolt!!!


29 posted on 02/17/2009 3:08:21 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee!)
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To: BossLady

BUMP


30 posted on 02/17/2009 3:09:03 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; All

Attorney Issues a National Grand Jury Declaration, Application Form

“As reported late last night via DecaLogosIntl.org, Stephen Pidgeon, attorney for Broe v. Reed, has officially announced that he has issued a declaration (audio at link) for a national grand jury.”

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=3758


31 posted on 02/17/2009 3:12:46 PM PST by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: mojitojoe
There is something very big in this BC issue and it haunts zer0 daily.

I'd be very wary of the next job opening filled in the Hawaii Dept. of Health or any new night custodian. Especially if they're named Sandy.

32 posted on 02/17/2009 3:13:24 PM PST by bgill
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To: LucyT

33 posted on 02/17/2009 3:20:40 PM PST by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: Leo Carpathian; Political Junkie Too; stockpirate; mojitojoe; IrishPennant; Fred Nerks; Iowan; ...
Read this somewhere; it might have been a tagline:

If you want to make a conservative angry, tell him a lie; if you want to make a liberal angry, tell him the truth.

34 posted on 02/17/2009 3:23:02 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT
Plains Radio Network has been order off the air...

Wow, just wow. Not that I agree with everything Ed says or does, but sheez - the 1st amendment is gone now????? If so, when does the Revolution start and where do I sign up?

35 posted on 02/17/2009 3:26:39 PM PST by conservativegramma
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To: STARWISE

Just found this googling around:

http://theregulator.net/?p=2653

Looks like he is being sued by some libtards.


36 posted on 02/17/2009 3:27:44 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

So it’s not............THE GOVERNMENT.


37 posted on 02/17/2009 3:32:18 PM PST by Nokia
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To: penelopesire
Looks like he is being sued by some libtards.

Looks like Phil Berg is the complainant's lawyer, according to your link.

38 posted on 02/17/2009 3:35:15 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“Looks like Phil Berg is the complainant’s lawyer”

Now aint that a kick in the head......hahahaha


39 posted on 02/17/2009 3:37:58 PM PST by Nokia
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Yep..just read that. I don’t know much about Ed Hale or this mommat(or what-ever her name is that is sueing him..don’t listen to internet radio much.

The site I found the info on though is definately a left wing nutter site. They apparently hate us freepers...lol. Did you see the ‘latest at Free Republic’ sidebar? They sound like a bunch of stoner losers....lol


40 posted on 02/17/2009 3:38:32 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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