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Need Advice for Military College

Posted on 02/03/2009 5:41:34 PM PST by Vesbasion

Hello, I made a post awhile back asking for advice about actually joining the military and it sure helped in solidifying my decision to do so. Here's the deal: I'm a 17 year old from Silver Spring, Maryland and have been accepted to both Norwich University in Vermont and the Virginia Military Institute. I have also been awarded a full Army ROTC scholarship. I know the Free Republic has a lot of verterans and military apt people so any positive or negative info about either school would help immensly.

P.S. I did not just join the FR to make a quick post. I have been a member for while and though I do not make many(any) posts I must read everyone of of these forums at least 10 times a day.


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1 posted on 02/03/2009 5:41:35 PM PST by Vesbasion
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To: Vesbasion

I’ve known a lot of great guys who went to VMI. They had some issues back when they went coed, but they seem to have worked through that now.

Good Luck.


2 posted on 02/03/2009 5:43:59 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Vesbasion

wait 4 yrs


3 posted on 02/03/2009 5:45:01 PM PST by Gone_Postal ("Men who say it cannot be done, should not interupt those doing it.")
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To: Vesbasion

VMI is an outstanding institution, but make sure that you get a solid degree in a field that you will enjoy 30 years from now. As hard as it seems at 17, 27, or even 37, a military career doesn’t last long enough.


4 posted on 02/03/2009 5:45:19 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Vesbasion

Congratulations on your scholarship.


5 posted on 02/03/2009 5:50:44 PM PST by There's millions of'em (Next up: Here come the reparations........)
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To: Vesbasion

What was my post on March 14th, 2003?


6 posted on 02/03/2009 5:52:32 PM PST by Krankor (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me.)
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To: Natural Law

>> make sure that you get a solid degree in a field that you will enjoy 30 years from now

Agreed. I can’t overstress the importance of the above.

VMI is a great school with a proud tradition (especially if you are from the South).


7 posted on 02/03/2009 5:53:29 PM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Vesbasion

Stay away from Vermont and you’ll make a fine patriot. Thank you for your interest in the U.S. Military.


8 posted on 02/03/2009 5:55:32 PM PST by cll ("Crisis is the rallying cry of a tyrant" - James Madison)
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To: Vesbasion

Take whichever school offers the full ride scholarship. The free ride allows you to make money as a butter bar rather than spend years paying off student loans.

Your officer commission will be the same regardless of which school you go to, and the training doesn’t really start until you go to the Officer Basic Course anyway.


9 posted on 02/03/2009 5:57:17 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Vesbasion

Both are fine schools. VMI just has a larger publicity machine than Norwich.


10 posted on 02/03/2009 6:01:10 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead (3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87))
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To: wagglebee
VM class of 1907..
11 posted on 02/03/2009 6:01:28 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: Vesbasion

IMO, graduating from a military institution will provide you with more leadership opportunities. However, you only go through undergrad once, and a more casual program (ROTC) might make for a more enjoyable four years. Good officers come from all kinds of school. Good and bad from “Podunk U” and the same for service academies. If you are interested in a math/hard science degree, I’d go for ROTC at a larger research institution. Whatever path you choose, dont’ rack up debt!


12 posted on 02/03/2009 6:04:27 PM PST by opticks
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To: cll

It might sound counter-intuitive, but you should take a look at St. John’s College in Annapolis. It’s the third oldest college in the U.S., founded in 1698. It features a Great Books program. You learn Greek, study Plato and Socrates, Euclid and Copernicus. Victor Davis Hanson, who writes on warfare and politics, who wrote the introduction to the most used edition of thucydides’ Peloponnesian War, is a big proponent of military men getting a grounding in the Classics. The school is refreshingly illiberal, focused as it is on the bigger picture that history and scholarship provide. Your parents will be glad to know graduates do well in the sciences and medicine and law — and the military.

My son is a sophomore.


13 posted on 02/03/2009 6:04:54 PM PST by SoCalRight
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To: GSP.FAN

Most of the people in my age bracket got totally disgusted with the military under Clinton and left back in the mid to late 90s, they have all gone on to very successful careers.

VMI instills a sense of honor and discipline that will serve someone throughout their entire life, I don’t think anyone will ever actually learn anything academically in college that is all that important later in life. Character is what people really need to succeed and VMI concentrates on that.


14 posted on 02/03/2009 6:07:19 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GreyFriar

check the average temperature for december for Vt and Va. Chose accordingly.

That said, as a 20 year Army veteran, I have seen graduates of both institutions. VMI evokes George Marshall and Stonewall Jackson. Norwich evokes, well, the stay behind crew in South Boston from “Good Will Hunting”.


15 posted on 02/03/2009 6:10:24 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: Vesbasion
There is no "one size fits all." I can only say that I went through ROTC while getting a science degree. I spent most of my 22-year Air Force career in R&D, then had a civilian career in scientific research. I didn't end up wondering how to make a living after I retired from the AF. I already had a start on a second career.

Think ahead. The military can be a fine career, but unless you make General, you'll be out on the street just about the time your kids are entering college. You will need a degree in something that has earning potential.

16 posted on 02/03/2009 6:11:45 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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My father was a VMI grad, as was his brother. They both spoke very highly of it. Neither of them made the military their career though. My brother went to Norwich and just retired after 30 years in the Army as a full bird.

If the courses you want at each school are similar, FWIW, if you like winter sports and mountains, you may like Norwich. Being closer to home has it drawbacks and advantages. Good luck!


17 posted on 02/03/2009 6:13:10 PM PST by Daffynition ("Beauty is in the sty of the beholder." ~ Joe 6-pack)
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To: Vesbasion

Congratulations. 4 yr ROTC scholarships are not handed out to just everyone. Much is expected of you. Give more.


18 posted on 02/03/2009 6:15:03 PM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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Wow. It sounds like your doing so well so far (at your age I was still a liberal and had no GPA like that... /whistles) Although I don’t know of the school I do of military schools and the type of people who go/get scholarships. I would give this advice: don’t miss out on college just doing schoolwork and all the other things necessary at a military college. I will admit I learned more (life) from the other stuff that I’ve done in the classroom, but the lessons that will really follow you through life you might find at the Dining Hall than in a Classroom.

Plus a whole lot of fun :D. (I actually spent the last three hours after a class talking about dystopian future with internet leading off a discussion we had in a class; I know some well, some not at all and we have the beginings of a book we would like to do. )


19 posted on 02/03/2009 6:19:47 PM PST by Toki ("Palin Pingers" Freepmail Liberity Rocks or me to get on the list today!)
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To: wagglebee

I have a friend who was in the navy,he worked as a property manager.
Sometimes he overslept (he lived onsite)he would go down sign in and then run back home to make his bed and i am talking about the quarter being able to bounce when he was finished with the bed.
I’d do the bed later i said a couple of times “no man i gotta do the bed now”
He had the cleanest most organised apt for a single guy.
Everthing was in it’s place and boy could he pull the chicks one look at his apt they are in love..
I asked him who taught you all this neatness he said i owe it all to the navy...


20 posted on 02/03/2009 6:21:27 PM PST by GSP.FAN
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