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Danube Delta Holds Answers to ‘Noah’s Flood’ Debate [science]
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution ^ | January 22, 2009 | Media Relations

Posted on 01/23/2009 8:15:56 PM PST by Coyoteman

Did a catastrophic flood of biblical proportions drown the shores of the Black Sea 9,500 years ago, wiping out early Neolithic settlements around its perimeter? A geologist with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution (WHOI) and two Romanian colleagues report in the January issue of Quaternary Science Reviews that, if the flood occurred at all, it was much smaller than previously proposed by other researchers.

Using sediment cores from the delta of the Danube River, which empties into the Black Sea, the researchers determined sea level was approximately 30 meters below present levels—rather than the 80 meters others hypothesized.

“We don’t see evidence for a catastrophic flood as others have described,” said Liviu Giosan, a geologist in the WHOI Geology and Geophysics Department.

Ten thousand years ago, at the end of the last glacial period, the Black Sea was a lake—cut off from the Sea of Marmara and beyond it the Mediterranean by the Bosphorus sill. Debate in geological and archaeological circles has focused on whether, as glaciers melted and global sea levels began to rise, the Bosphorus sill overflowed gradually or whether a flood broke through the sill, drowning some 70,000 square kilometers and wiping out early Neolithic civilizations in the region. In addition to questions about the rate of the flood, investigators continue to debate the extent of the flood -- a debate centered around what the level of the Black Sea was 9,500 years ago.

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(Excerpt) Read more at whoi.edu ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: blacksea; blackseaflood; catastrophism; connecticut; danube; danuberiver; fakestudy; gigo; godsgravesglyphs; grandcanyon; greatflood; liviugiosan; massachusetts; noah; noahsflood; romania; walterpitman; williamryan; woodshole
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To: ForGod'sSake
Camarinal Sill, Gibraltar.
41 posted on 01/25/2009 9:39:57 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
...I meant to write ‘Black Sea-Meditteranean’ ...

Yeah, I figgered as much. BTW, how high would your pucker factor have gone if you were sitting on the beach on that little island in the Med when you begin to hear a faint roar off to the east that steadily grows louder as the ground begins to shake??? Then you spy a wall of water maybe several hundred feet high headed your way...

42 posted on 01/25/2009 9:46:40 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

A Voyage to Ancient Greek Harbours. (pdf)

http://www.iwaponline.com/ws/00701/0253/007010253.pdf


43 posted on 01/25/2009 10:06:08 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

If I survived...I would begin to create my own Flood Myth!


44 posted on 01/25/2009 10:10:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Whaddaya make of THIS:

Black Sea water level fluctuations since the LGM


45 posted on 01/25/2009 11:01:48 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Watch your (geological) language!

http://www.turkeytravelplanner.com/go/Istanbul/Sights/Bosphorus/

Can’t cut and paste this - but I agree with the earthquake scenario...


46 posted on 01/25/2009 11:15:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Sea floor features in Black Sea. Bacterial mats, encrustaceans and gas bubbles streaming upwards from vents. Images courtesy GHOSTDABS - Hamburg University.

47 posted on 01/25/2009 11:35:55 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
Can’t cut and paste this - but I agree with the earthquake scenario...

Given the area, entirely possible. It was there that Jerry Lee Lewis got the inspiration for the old classis, 'Whole Lotta Shakin Goin On'. You believe that dontcha??? Must be getting late...

48 posted on 01/25/2009 11:50:22 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: A lie will travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its shoes on!)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m a bit skeptical that the Black Sea event was the origin of the flood stories. I’m more inclined to think it was the rise in ocean levels after the last glacial max which would have flooded the early coastal settlements, at a time when most people seemed to have been hugging the coasts.


49 posted on 01/27/2009 12:15:21 PM PST by colorado tanker ("I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: colorado tanker

I agree.


50 posted on 01/27/2009 4:30:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SunkenCiv

http://web.archive.org/web/20130709175142/http://www.oceanlab.abdn.ac.uk/esonet/black.php

one thread leads to another - here’s a link to the archive article on the Black Sea.

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Sea floor features in Black Sea. Bacterial mats, encrustaceans and gas bubbles streaming upwards from vents. Images courtesy GHOSTDABS - Hamburg University.


51 posted on 05/31/2015 7:53:10 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

:’)


52 posted on 05/31/2015 9:59:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: SunkenCiv
replaces image not found on #30

fits together like a jigsaw

53 posted on 06/01/2015 7:20:54 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ballard Finds Traces of Ancient Habitation Beneath Black Sea

IN SEARCH OF NOAH’S FLOOD

Last year, Ballard and his colleagues found proof that a catastrophic flood inundated the Black Sea in the region north of Turkey. The place and date of the flood—which may have occurred around 5,500 B.C.—correspond to the time and location of the Old Testament account of Noah.

Following a theory proposed by marine geologists William Ryan and Walter Pitman, Ballard searched for evidence that the Black Sea, originally a freshwater lake, filled rapidly with salt water spilling from the Mediterranean Sea about 7,500 years ago through what is now the Bosporus. The flood, apparently the result of thousands of years of meltwater collecting in the Mediterranean following the end of the last ice age (about 12,000 years ago) would have spread over an area of land the size of Costa Rica. The flood may have buried coastal settlements as it engulfed the ancient landscape.

During the 1999 expedition, Ballard’s team discovered a submerged ancient shoreline with a flat beach area beneath about 550 feet(168 meters) of water—evidence supporting Ryan and Pittman’s theory.

Radiocarbon dating and paleontological evidence from a sample of shells and sediment collected from the site suggested that a massive flood occured about 7,500 years ago. However, carbon dating using marine life is notoriously vague. Dates can be off by several hundred years. Dating a sample of wood from the site would provide a much-needed confirmation for Pitman and Ryan’s proposed flood date.

Among the sediment samples was a piece of obsidian, which was used by people in the ancient Near East to shape blades and arrows. Hoping that the obsidian suggested the presence of humans, Ballard returned this year to search for signs of human occupation.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2000/12/122800blacksea.html


54 posted on 06/01/2015 11:38:58 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1520028/posts?page=93#93


55 posted on 12/17/2017 12:37:06 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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BBC Horizon 33-07 Noah's Flood (16 Dec 1996) [YouTube] [mp3]

BBC Horizon 33-07 Noah's Flood (16 Dec 1996)

56 posted on 07/02/2018 9:17:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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57 posted on 07/02/2018 9:17:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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