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Details emerge on Jett Travolta's death
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Posted on 01/04/2009 3:52:28 PM PST by GVnana

Details emerge on Jett Travolta's death

John Travolta, Kelly Preston and their children Jett and Ella Bleu, leave an airport in Rome.

John Travolta's lawyers -- who are close family friends -- reveal that Jett may have died in his father's arms Friday.

Us: How is John doing?

-snip- "John and Kelly are suffering total misery. They were so close to their son. This is hard to accept.

-snip-

Us: Have John and Kelly spent time with anyone since everyone arrived?

Ossi and McDermott: "John and Kelly have been pretty much locked away.

"We are staying here until John leaves. The autopsy should be on Monday.

-snip-

Us: It's been reported that Jett was left alone for several hours before being discovered. Can you clarify the timeline?

Ossi and McDermott: "Jett was not left alone. He had a nanny present at all times. The nanny was sleeping close to Jett's room. There was a baby monitor, a chime on the door so it was known when Jett was going in and out. He was completely supervised. The nanny found him.

Us: Is it true that Jett died in John's arms?

Ossi and McDermott: "Jett may have still been alive when John administered CPR, and then the EMT took over. Jett was pronounced dead at the hospital. I like to believe John had a chance to say goodbye. He may have died in his dad's arms. I am not certain."

Us: It's been said Jett had a history of seizures. How often did he have them?

Ossi and McDermott: "I am not confident to talk about that. I know he had a history, which of course warranted the extra attention."

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; TV/Movies
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To: Admin Moderator

I guess you haven’t read how many people have been personally attacking me (including MANY posts by Arizona Carolyn) as I have discussed the topic. Calling me sick, etc because I am questioning the medical care of a disabled minor.


641 posted on 01/07/2009 1:11:46 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Admin Moderator

By the way, i would appreciate it if you would direct your comment to Arizona carolyn because she has trashed me repeatedly on this thread...calling me names ..and saying I am evil, etc.


642 posted on 01/07/2009 1:15:21 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
http://www.momlogic.com/2009/01/with_all_the_speculation_and.php

Interesting comment about bipolar disorder which I hadn't thought of:

There's so much speculation and controversy surrounding Jett Travolta's medical history and death. We asked Dr. Charles Sophy, Medical Director for the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services, to shed some light.

"I think it's eye-opening that someone with that severity of seizures is only on Depakote when there are so many more specific seizure medications that are used today, such as Tegretol or Neurotin -- which are the two biggest seizure drugs on the market and the first choices by doctors all over the nation," Dr. Sophy says. "It's hard to believe that a family like the Travoltas with the resources they have that they would use Depakote to treat Jett's seizures."

"Interestingly enough, Depakote is often not even used as a seizure drug anymore," Dr. Sophy continues. "What we do know is the Travoltas are Scientologists and that means they don't believe in psychiatry, so maybe their doctor prescribed Depakote to both stabilize Jett's mood and to treat the seizure disorder as well. We will never know if Jett was on Depakote for a seizure disorder or a mood disorder such as bipolar disorder."

but then again, bipolar disorder is likely taboo with the Church as well.

643 posted on 01/07/2009 1:29:06 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Just incredible what scientologists do to you once you sign that contract. Think the cult isn’t dangerous to adults???..let alone children... below are just two examples..How can John Travolta be a part of this group???!! Amazing that Clinton used the State Department to promote them. I wonder what else he got and/or was promised. I bet they call on the new Clinton in the State Department.

“In Sardinia, she claims to have been forced to remain locked up in a
“disgusting room” on the first floor of the house, guarded by two young
people who did not speak to her, with a basin for sanitation and only a
tee-shirt for clothing. A woman also lived in the house. She claims to
have written an S.O.S message with lipstick on cardboard which she threw
into the garden of neighbours who alerted the police. “

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/8252c736cc75fbe7

http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/scientology-another-suicide.htm

“Roberto was tired - she said - he wanted to leave that cult but was unable to do so. He was changed, he stopped his studies, he didn’t play his music any longer. He told me that they brainwashed him, that they wanted more and more money. That they threatened him to disclose the intimate things he had revealed during the meetings of the group. He was terrified, he even locked me inside because he feared they would kill me. My husband and I even decided to leave Cagliari: the nex day Roberto committed suicide, he wanted to save us”


644 posted on 01/07/2009 2:40:11 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
I personally believe..for a number of reasons..that the Travoltas did not give Jett Depakote. That is my personal belief.

That is sheer specultion....

645 posted on 01/07/2009 2:58:07 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I said it was my personal belief. It is what I believe.

Are you a Doctor? What do you think of giving Jett AT LEAST 100 MG of Niacin a day during a detox?


646 posted on 01/07/2009 2:59:38 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Arizona Carolyn
BTW People die of seizures -- it HAPPENS to people who are not Scientologists like the Travoltas. Last year Hunter Tylo’s 19-year old son, Michael Tylo Jr., drowned in the family pool near Las Vegas. He too had a seizure disorder and even though his brother was home with him at the time, he walked outside, had a seizure and fell into the family swiming pool and drowned. The cause of his death was deemed: "seizure disorder."

You're right. Family tragedies happen, and often it's no one's fault. The over-speculation about the Travolta's by some people on this thread seems like gossip.

647 posted on 01/07/2009 3:05:04 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

What do you think of Clinton using the State Department to promote Scientology with the help of Berger?

By the way, here is a regime that Narconon uses...in this facility..they used treatments of 2000 mg dosages of NIACIN...and some lesser quantities like 400 mg.

Georgia Department of Human Resources, Office of Regulatory Services inspection report on Narconon of Georgia, Inc

http://lermanet.com/narconon/

This is the kind of treatment that Jett was subjected too as per the admission of Kelly Preston.


648 posted on 01/07/2009 3:09:05 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I think it is very sad. I felt bad for the Tylo family last year and I feel bad for the Travolta family now. Cruel comments are not going to bring their child back.

He received permission to fly his family out late Monday evening. One last flight home with Jett. The Bahamas close all private traffic between dusk and dawn as a rule, but cleared this flight out.

649 posted on 01/07/2009 3:16:36 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Arizona Carolyn,

You are so over the top on this you have turned this thread into a religious vendetta thread, which is NOT what GVnana intended when she posted this article.

Thank you. Indeed, I intended to cast some light on a tragedy, and perhaps bring about some understanding for families who face such challenges.

RummyChick is what we used to call a "gravedigger." They hijack threads and grandstand, posting so obsessively that they disrupt any rational discourse.

I agree with ROCKLOBSTER'S assessment:
This little black-hearted display of yours makes you exactly equal to Fred Phelps' disgusting crew of moonbats from the Westboro "Baptist" "Church" If you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything. You're supposed to be Christians...act like it and shut up. 90 posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:52:04 PM by ROCKLOBSTER

RummyChick's reply?

I never said I was a Christian. Maybe I wear a Guy Fawkes mask.
95 posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:58:20 PM by RummyChick

RummyChick has made several allusions to an association with the group Anonymous, including links to videos.

Anonymous members take credit for hacking Governor Palin's private email accounts and spreading her personal email on the Internet.

Members of Anonymous - that sprawling group of online rabble-rousers best known for taking on the Church of Scientology - have apparently hacked into a Yahoo! email account belonging to Alaska governor and Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

According to the bulletproof truth seekers at Wikileaks, "activists loosely affiliated" with Anonymous somehow gained access to the account at around midnight Eastern on Tuesday. Screenshots of emails purportedly lifted from this account - which carries the address "gov.palin@yahoo.com" - were then passed to Wikileaks, and Wikileaks shared the stash with world+dog. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/17/anonymous_hacks_sarah_palin/

Here's a photo of one of their little troupes in action:

A group of more than 50 masked protesters gathered yesterday outside of the Church of Scientology of Boston headquarters on Beacon Street to demonstrate against the policies of the church. Protesters said the event was part of a worldwide demonstration against the church by Anonymous, an informal Internet-based group.

Scroll upthread to RummyChick's post #126

Anonymous and Fred Phelp's Westboro Baptist Church look like two sides of the same publicity-seeking coin:

"Thank God for IEDs."

I am also in agreement with Wolfstar's comments:

I am repulsed by cruelty and the kind of intolerance in evidence on this thread. Nice of you to post my paragrah without context or attribution. Maybe it was just too much trouble for you to provide. Here. Let me do it for you: Link to my comments about libertarianism on this FR post. 69 posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 5:31:08 PM by Wolfstar

RummyChick has been asked, several times, by several posters, to post her own thread since her diatribes are off-topic. But, obviously, her intentions are otherwise.

I am in agreement with this comment:

My wife and I are equally disgusted with some of the comments here. Some acquaintances of the Travolta family may indeed be viewing these threads. There will be plenty of time to analyze and criticize the events of this tragedy, and the structure of Scientology later, but leave the family alone now.

We invite other freepers to reject the views of the few posters as not being representative of our otherwise gracious and charitable conservative community.
135 posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 6:29:50 PM by ROCKLOBSTER

Whatever RummyChick's motives, they certainly are NOT CONSERVATIVE.

650 posted on 01/07/2009 3:21:51 PM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: RummyChick

C. Evertt Coop on the Quackery that was promoted on this thread today

http://www.crackpots.org/cekoop.htm

http://theframeproblem.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/scientology-front-group-narconon-investigated-by-australias-todaytonight/

Australian current affairs program TodayTonight has released an investigative report on Scientology Front Group Narconon, the cult’s quack drug/alcohol rehabilitation program. Their report includes interviews with a former Narconon administrator, ex-Narconon client, and the founder of the Melbourne branch of Narconon. Excluding the statements from the local Narconon founder, the views expressed in the report were that Narconon is unsubstantiated quackery, an expensive scam, dangerous, destructive to clients and their families, deceitful, bizarre, and a covert attempt to prey on vulnerable populations for money and to attempt to recruit them into Scientology. The former Narconon administrator also stated that the cult’s likely response to having Narconon investigated would be to conduct an indepth investigation on the reporters in order to hopefully dig up embarrassing information on the investigated in order to potentially use against them.


651 posted on 01/07/2009 3:27:16 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: GVnana
two sides of the same publicity-seeking coin

Metaphor Overload Alert!


652 posted on 01/07/2009 3:27:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Don't rush to be savage!.)
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To: GVnana
Good synopsis. Thank you.

Something I would add to your observations is just as I feared Anna Nicole Smiths daughter will some day read the comments about her mother on the web, I feel it is very sad that Ella Bleu Travolta will someday read the comments about her brother and parents on the web -- including sites such as FreeRepublic. I thought we were better than that here.

653 posted on 01/07/2009 3:28:07 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: GVnana

http://www.exscientologykids.com/anonymous.html


654 posted on 01/07/2009 3:29:33 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: GVnana
There will be plenty of time to analyze and criticize the events of this tragedy, and the structure of Scientology later, but leave the family alone now.

I agree and hope your wishes will be followed by some who have become obsessed with this story. I have read shocking gossip about the Travolta's on this thread.

655 posted on 01/07/2009 3:31:22 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Arizona Carolyn

OMG....what about little Chelsea clinton that had to read the comments posters made on this thread about her poor parents..or any of the other NUMBER of children that have to read what people post here about their parents.

Do you have any idea how much vitrol is posted on Free Republic? EVERY DAY.

John Travolta is a high level member in a cult that does VERY VERY VERY BAD THINGS. Does he know about them? Does he condone them? I don’t know.


656 posted on 01/07/2009 3:33:09 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Arizona Carolyn
I feel bad for the Travolta family now. Cruel comments are not going to bring their child back. He received permission to fly his family out late Monday evening. One last flight home with Jett. The Bahamas close all private traffic between dusk and dawn as a rule, but cleared this flight out.

Their hearts must be broken. I agree that we should let them mourn in peace. God be with them.

657 posted on 01/07/2009 3:34:15 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Global2010
Brooke Shields is a perfect example of someone who felt the need to take anti depressants post partum and that is not cool with the teaching of Scientology.

Brooke Shields is Catholic... she didn't break any of her church's rules when she took anti-depressants...

658 posted on 01/07/2009 3:38:24 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: latina4dubya

I think the poster got confused because Tom Cruise went on a public rant about Brooke Shields and her use of meds.

But they made up..I believe she went to his wedding.


659 posted on 01/07/2009 3:40:13 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I guess he was supposed to perform with Miley Cyrus this weekend at the Golden Globes award show, their song from the movie Bolt is nominated for best song. There is some people saying they may do something special for the family at the award show, but nothing firmed up yet. I think I will watch it this Sunday evening and see what happens. Someone mused it may be late February at the Academy Awards before the family comes out publicly. You know John Kelly and Ella Bleu are in a movie coming out this year with Robin Williams, it is Ella’s acting debut.


660 posted on 01/07/2009 3:40:53 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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