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Details emerge on Jett Travolta's death
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Posted on 01/04/2009 3:52:28 PM PST by GVnana

Details emerge on Jett Travolta's death

John Travolta, Kelly Preston and their children Jett and Ella Bleu, leave an airport in Rome.

John Travolta's lawyers -- who are close family friends -- reveal that Jett may have died in his father's arms Friday.

Us: How is John doing?

-snip- "John and Kelly are suffering total misery. They were so close to their son. This is hard to accept.

-snip-

Us: Have John and Kelly spent time with anyone since everyone arrived?

Ossi and McDermott: "John and Kelly have been pretty much locked away.

"We are staying here until John leaves. The autopsy should be on Monday.

-snip-

Us: It's been reported that Jett was left alone for several hours before being discovered. Can you clarify the timeline?

Ossi and McDermott: "Jett was not left alone. He had a nanny present at all times. The nanny was sleeping close to Jett's room. There was a baby monitor, a chime on the door so it was known when Jett was going in and out. He was completely supervised. The nanny found him.

Us: Is it true that Jett died in John's arms?

Ossi and McDermott: "Jett may have still been alive when John administered CPR, and then the EMT took over. Jett was pronounced dead at the hospital. I like to believe John had a chance to say goodbye. He may have died in his dad's arms. I am not certain."

Us: It's been said Jett had a history of seizures. How often did he have them?

Ossi and McDermott: "I am not confident to talk about that. I know he had a history, which of course warranted the extra attention."

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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

It doesn’t matter. They won’t believe it is true. They can read it with their own eyes and will come up with an excuse...just gossip.

It amazes me.


461 posted on 01/05/2009 8:38:35 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
You really do have to get a life. That is one of the most avid anti-Scientology sites on the net..

I have an idea! Why don't you go over there and post your stuff and stop making FR look so bad.

462 posted on 01/05/2009 8:42:28 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Now let me ask you this..what do you think about Travolta believing in Forced abortions?

Or do you believe it isn’t true and just gossip.

Keep in mind that one of those girls in the video is a relative of THE leader.


463 posted on 01/05/2009 8:43:00 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Do you believe in forced abortions?


464 posted on 01/05/2009 8:43:51 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“We asked Walter Molofsky, chief of pediatric neurology at Beth Israel Medical Center in New York, about Kawasaki syndrome and its possible role in Jett Travolta’s death. An edited transcript of our conversation follows.”

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=what-is-kawasaki-syndrome


465 posted on 01/05/2009 9:09:15 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Okay Arizona Carolyn, I have found a link that might actually help you understand if you read it with an open mind.

You keep saying THE MEDICAL PROFESSION CONSIDERS SUCH AND SUCH TO BE SUCH AND SUCH DISORDER.

What is high blood pressure? Is it a psych disorder? Stress can contribute to high blood pressure but is it medical physical issue or psychiatric.

What about allergies? How about coronary problems? Can you test for high blood pressure, cornonary problems, allergies? yes, you can.

These are all considered medical physical ailments and treated with various medications. You can also try changing diet, losing weight, etc.

But what does Scientology think?

It all boils down to the reactive mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_mind

The ONLY thing that can cure the reactive mind is Dianetics. What helps treat these disorders? Remember my post about the FDA suing over the E-meter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_mind

No matter how the medical field classifies something..all that matters is how Scientology classifies it.

most Mental AND PHYSICAL ailments are psychosomatic EVEN THE COMMON COLD.

Contrary to your belief about the Travoltas, they do not believe in Psych meds.

Did they REALLY use them or is it spin. Who knows.
We do know that if they used them it is against Scientology beliefs.

You can’t keep posting that such and such is consider such and such medical classification and therefore does not fall under the Scientology no psych med rule...because all that matters is Hubbards warped beliefs.

And they do great harm.

But then again, you can just believe it is gossip instead of opening the eyes of people who are susceptible to this garbage....and keep believing the Scientology spin..it will be out in full force.


466 posted on 01/05/2009 9:30:36 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
here is some really sick BS from Scientology.

From Science of Survival, The Chart of Human Evaluation:

"Anyone who is a homosexual or has a chronic neurological condition is 1.1"

"In any event, any person from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale should not have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind". "There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the Tone Scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow."

If anyone wants to claim that this is just gossip (LET ME ROLL MY EYES NOW) feel free to contact Tory and ask her. http://www.torymagoo.org/
467 posted on 01/05/2009 9:49:04 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
any person from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale should not have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind

Hmmm. I can think of someone that might apply to.

468 posted on 01/06/2009 1:11:23 AM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: RummyChick

I think it’s up to the individual child’s PARENTS to draw the line.

My daughter is deaf. I can’t even count the number of people who have decided it’s their right and duty to tell me how to raise her. To tell me that she should get a cochlear implant. Now tell me. Have these people been with her every step of the way, through her OWN seizure disorder dx’d by a quack doctor IMHO who decided virutally every kid in his practice had Tourette’s Syndrome? Have these people been with her when she was wrongly dx’d with ADD/ADHD by a different ridiculouos doctor put her on Ritalin without any tests? Yes, no? The ONLY people who have this kid’s medical interests and history are his parents. It does not matter that they’re gorgeous and wealthy. They know what the medical history is, how it affected him and they made decisions based off that medical history.


469 posted on 01/06/2009 4:22:15 AM PST by merry10
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To: merry10

So again, if a blood transfusion will save a child’s live it is up to the parents to decide. So you believe that it is okay to withhold medical care that could kill a kid?

So who is to fight for the rights of the child to LIVE when the child has no say so.

And one step further, the child in the womb has no say either. So do you believe it is okay for the parent to abort it? It’s the parents right to do what they see fit with the child, right?

So if you believe it is okay to kill the child with abortion..is it okay to force the mother to kill the child..as the Scientologists do .

And even further..what about the parents who force their minor children to have an abortion?

Who is to fight for the rights of the child - unborn or alive if it is the parents right to draw the line.

Hey Bill O’Reilly, listen up. If it is EVIL to question the care of someone under the influence of Scientology..why isn’t EVIL to force women to have abortions? Ask Greta for me, will ya?

I guess Time magazine is just a gossip rag, too.
http://www.lermanet.com/scientologynews/time.htm


470 posted on 01/06/2009 5:09:14 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: GVnana
How enlightened of you.

What do you think about this:


Strange things seem to happen to people who write about Scientology. Journalist Paulette Cooper wrote a critical book on the cult in 1971. This led to a Scientology plot (called Operation Freak-Out) whose goal, according to church documents, was "to get P.C. incarcerated in a mental institution or jail." It almost worked: by impersonating Cooper, Scientologists got her indicted in 1973 for threatening to bomb the church. Cooper, who also endured 19 lawsuits by the church, was finally exonerated in 1977 after FBI raids on the church offices in Los Angeles and Washington uncovered documents from the bomb scheme. No Scientologists were ever tried in the matter.
471 posted on 01/06/2009 5:14:07 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

And for those that keep blaming Soros for manipulating the markes..ooops..perhaps you should learn about the Feshbach brothers , brothers in arms with John travolta.One of the Feshbachs is/was in the arm of Scientology that forces abortions.

I don’t understand how you people that claim that you are conservatives...think it is okay to operate as the Scientologists do..and that includes Goldenboy Travolta who FALSELY claims that Kawasaki syndrome was responsible for his child’s seizures...because it would appear he can’t admit it was anything else.

He IS part of the organization that forces women to have abortions.


472 posted on 01/06/2009 5:27:40 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

A former (more than 20 years) Scientologist speaks out on a “gossip rag”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2098960.ece


473 posted on 01/06/2009 5:39:40 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

And yes, I do not believe that it is acceptable to let your kid die when you could save him with a blood transfusion.

We differ. You are utilitarian with your greater truth that there should be no death at any cost.

I believe that personal and family autonomy as my greater truth.

In both cases some people suffer and some die.


474 posted on 01/06/2009 5:41:55 AM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: RummyChick

You believe It is not okay to have an abortion but it is okay to effectivly kill a child by not letting him have necessary medical attention.

Both decisions result in the death of a child.

And the child of 10 who needs medical attention is much more formed than a 4 month old fetus.

So?


475 posted on 01/06/2009 5:42:50 AM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Here we go. See if you can answer this:

Why should I answer this? Adults choosing to have their lives directed by others. It is certainly biblical that the Chosen beggerd for a king to rule them.

People are afraid of freedom.


476 posted on 01/06/2009 5:45:17 AM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: Chickensoup

Why do you believe that a child of 10 should be killed ( and that is what happens when the parents DECIDE) and a fetus should not be killed ..when the parents DECIDE.

A 10 year old is a human with a history of life, pain, and cognitive ability that differs much from a 4 month old fetus.

A 10 year old is quite capable of understanding that she is going to die because her parents refuse treatment. What can a FRIGHTENED 10 old sick in a bed do about it?

a 4 month old fetus knows no such thing.

How is one decision for death okay with you and not the other?

Yes, I absolutely do not understand your reasoning and do not agree with it.
However, unlike other dubious posters on this thread..I am not going to call you SICK just because you believe something that is abhorrent to me.

And for Arizona Carolyn, I just found this post from a very high up FORMER scientologist that might help you stop posting what the medical community thinks about a certain disease as if Scientologists listen to the medical community.

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/291-scientology-activism/scientologists-medication-matter-life-death-35515/#post680333


477 posted on 01/06/2009 5:49:12 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Why do you believe that a child of 10 should be killed

No one killed the child, he died as a result of a medical contition. I have seen people like you take children and infants from people, to “treat” them. One little boy with brain cance comes to mind. The parents took him home to die and the do-gooders came along and ended parental rights to “treat” (think torture) the child because there was a low survivability factor. Remember survivable means breathing and often deteriorating. The child was blind, deaf and dumb for eight months. The parents who were old order Mennonite were devestated that they lost their child to the state’s decisions and had to fight for thim. To many people death, myself included, death is not the worst thing that can happen.

If he didnt die of this one it could have been a different one.


478 posted on 01/06/2009 6:10:18 AM PST by Chickensoup (we owe HUSSEIN & Democrats the exact kind respect & loyalty that they showed us, Bush & Reagan)
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To: Chickensoup

Let me see if I get this right. You don’t believe abortion is morally right and you fight against it.
Yet, it is okay for Scientology to force abortions because the people choose to follow Scientology.

Surely don’t understand your reasoning on that. So is it MORAL or immoral to force the women to have an abortion?

Or is it okay to force them to have an abortion but the immorality of it is the woman who chooses to do it.


479 posted on 01/06/2009 6:14:57 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Chickensoup

Hmmmmm.......so you disagree with the thought that
withholding of necessary medical care from a minor is a form of child neglect, abuse, or both

and you disagree with the laws put in place to protect the rights of these children?


480 posted on 01/06/2009 6:24:04 AM PST by RummyChick
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