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FORGET NATURAL BORN, IS HE EVEN A "CITIZEN" ?

Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55

Attorney Berg said Mr. Obama is probably an "illegal alien".

If we cannot access his passports, his birth certificate, his college records:

1. Occidental College records -- Not released 2. Columbia College records -- Not released 3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available" 4. Harvard College records -- Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released 6. Medical records -- Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available 8. His Illinois State Senate records -- Not available 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released 11. Record of baptism -- Not available

and if he has multiple names:

Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry Soetoro

AND he specifically answered the "Any other names" on his bar application to obtain a law degree as "No", we can be sure MANY things about his past warrant serious and intense investigation !

I e-mailed Governor Lingle prior to Andy Martin's case requesting that she stand up for our Constitution. She IS a Republican and she DID make a comment prior to the election that Mr. Obama had limited political experience, so she may have somewhat of a clue what's going on - maybe a BIG CLUE ! Why else would Hussein send her a "Dear Linda" letter ?

Also, being from CT, I have been e-mailing Cort Wronowski for several weeks. It was TOO PITIFUL to see how the state dismissed his case and according to a radio interview, Leo said the state of CT refused to hear his case on improper grounds that did not even apply to his application as it was submitted. SURPRISE ! SURPRISE !

I also wrote Joseph Lieberman (our CT Senator) via certified mail and explained "in detail" the legitimacy of the TRUTH regarding "Factcheck", the short form cert and Obama's "sealed" history ! Is this the behavior of a cooperative official who wants to get to the TRUTH and bring about all this CHANGE ?

I informed him that, to date, there is NOT ONE hospital or medical facility in all Hawaii that has ANY record of Mr. Obama's birth and asked point blank: "Does this, in your highly qualified legal opinion, pose even the slightest 'shadow of a doubt' of this candidate's qualifications ?"

I further stated that if Mr. Obama is inaugurated on 1/20/09, he will place his hand on the Bible and vow to the American people that he will:

"PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES" ! !

I asked Mr. Lieberman:

"Could anything be more IMMEASURABLY IRONIC ????"

About 10 days back, I ran a post in FreeRepublic inquiring about OBAMA'S COLLEGE YEARBOOK. He graduated from Harvard in 1991, but is NOT in the 1991 Harvard Yearbook ! If he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, WHY NOT ?

I went on EBAY and searched EVERY possible college document, article, yearbook, alumni book, sports journal, etc. for Occidental, Princeton and Harvard Universities. I e-mailed questions to the sellers of the applicable items and asked if there was ANY mention of Barry or Barack and ALL of the replies were "NO, SORRY" !

One FreeRepublic reader commented that he went to Harvard personally and searched all College newspapers, announcements, etc., during the Obama years and was dismayed to find "several" missing pages ! He went to other years (prior and after Obama's attendance) and the papers were all intact ! Is this a coincidence ?

Obama's staff probably frequents this site daily to keep one step ahead of the competition. Having unlimited resources and a 30 million dollar campaign surplus, he can afford to have a 24/7 staff searching ANY negative feedback and once they find it, they can GOOGLE it to death with rebuttals. I told a friend who accused me of being an "ultra-right-wing die-hard Republican" about six weeks ago to search 'Obama birth certificate' on line and see for herself.

She wrote back and said the first 6 hits all said the birth cert is real and it was even verified by TWO reviewers "FactCheck" and "PolitiFact" ! Pul----lease !

I was recently summoned for Jury Duty and today I wrote the Judicial Branch of CT that I will not serve Jury duty because the state of CT turned down Cort Wronowski's case and sent in their electoral votes without verifying that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen and he may not even be a U.S. citizen AT ALL ! Consequently, I cannot serve a judicial system that does not uphold and defend our Constitution.

Obama most likely attended college as a "foreign student" and is possibly still not a legal U.S. citizen. Why else would he go to such great lengths to "seal" ---or better stated, "CONCEAL" his past ?

The dilemma we face is, without someone kidnapping his children and holding them hostage for his birth cert, we might all DIE with that document sitting in a vault ! How sad is that ?

I entertained the idea of actually renting a Highway Billboard (I heard it's approximately $1500 for one month) with a slogan that could not be regarded as racist --possibly :

"I'D RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT IS 100% BLACK AND HONEST THAN ONE WHO IS HALF-WHITE AND WON'T SHOW HIS BIRTH CERT ! "

How else can we get the attention of ANYONE ? 99% of all Americans do not even know there is a CRISIS going on because when the MSM covers a "lawsuit dismissal", it is portrayed in a such a negative light with the usual "Factcheck" references and the "mis-information" that the state of Hawaii has "confirmed that Obama was born there", that the public has no choice but to accept it ! Of course, they think we're kooks ! It's what they're being told by NBC, CBS, FOX, Associated Press, etc.

Would it make sense to file a more basic and fundamental lawsuit (possibly against Pelosi, who had the unmitigated gall to sign off on his eligibility) to verify if Hussein is even a U. S. citizen AT ALL ? Would that obligate the defendants to produce even a passport, or this that TOO MUCH to hope for ? !

I find myself searching and praying for ANY legitimate way of exposing this Usurper...only saving grace is, if we are near the "end of the World", maybe this is part of God's plan....when ancient Israel rejected Him, He gave them what they wanted "King Saul", who proved to be unfaithful and was superseded by David...but for us, we can still fight and appeal our cause....even JESUS called Herod a "fox" !

Any attorneys out there ? Is a case against Pelosi worth pursuing ? Is the "cititzen" question, in and of itself (without the 'natural born' issue) a case less likely to be dismissed ? Can anyone else brainstorm a better option ??


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To: rocco55

I’m a lawyer.
When someone is asked a material question (not necessarily having been sworn) and an average or normal person under the circumstances would reply—or deny—but the person says nothing, that silence could be introduced as a “tacit admission”.
Obama is wasting the time of the Supreme Court of the United States—you or I could, and I think would have said long before now, “Here’s authentic proof that I’m a natural born citizen.”
For those who say, `Time to move on, he won,’ et cetera:
1.) I will not consider acknowledging his election until he proves his qualification for the office. He is illegitimate until then.
2.) Those who think this is a waste of time can move on to another thread, we will fight for the Constitution and carry your weight, but stay out of our path.
Nice post rocco.


21 posted on 12/20/2008 6:53:09 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: a real Sheila

Maybe so. But it will be different to be on the side that gets to say i told you so. These numbnuts can say whatever they want, but the conservative press will crush them with the thousands of items, lawsuits, and reports that won’t be so easy to dismiss then, like they are now.


22 posted on 12/20/2008 6:54:46 PM PST by wombtotomb (since its "above his paygrade", why can't we err on the side of caution about when life begins?)
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To: a real Sheila; All

Whenever i looked at photos posted by FReepers comparing Odumbo to both Obama Sr and F. Marshall, I thought he looked like NEITHER of them.

I dont mind speculating, because in the absence of him producing his real BC, he leaves the questions wide open.

Yes, he DOES look like X, and here is a little reading I found yesterday. i havent done more than skim it, but you may find it of interest.

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/how-could-stanl.html

And as a P.S., if he WAS X’s offspring, it would certainly explain why he was always being introduced to the characters he encountered: Marshall, Ayers, Wright, and why he had a wealthy Arab pay for his education, has concealed his records, was made the editor of Law Review, got into Hahvard to begin with...let’s face it, he has led a “radically” charmed life.


23 posted on 12/20/2008 6:56:27 PM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: tumblindice
2.) Those who think this is a waste of time can move on to another thread, we will fight for the Constitution and carry your weight, but stay out of our path.

Yep, if you're hindering us, you're helping the enemy.
24 posted on 12/20/2008 6:58:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: tumblindice
we will fight for the Constitution and carry your weight, but stay out of our path.

You are quite possibly the last person to carry my weight, unless you can also carry forty pounds of IBA, fifty pounds of gear and a base load of ammo and a rifle.

You and a squad of Internet Rambo's like you couldn't carry the weight I and a hundred thousand others have.

25 posted on 12/20/2008 7:03:18 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: rocco55

I have been wondering if all this blank slate about Oprah’s Choice is an unintended effect of that law in the form of some education amendment put forward years ago by former Sen. (and Judge) James Buckley, R-NY (the brother of William F. Buckley), who was defeated by Pat Moynihan in 1976. Maybe that Buckley Amendment was bad policy after all.


26 posted on 12/20/2008 7:04:53 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: Old Sarge

I really think most Americans cannot even spell “Constitution” must less know anything about it.


27 posted on 12/20/2008 7:05:51 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: mountaineer1997

Maybe a new kind of his promised “transparency.” You can’t see it.


28 posted on 12/20/2008 7:06:32 PM PST by GOPPachyderm
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To: a real Sheila

Why in the world would you think there will be a revolt against Oprah’s Choice in 2010. I wouldn’t think the American people would tire of him that soon. There still a certain fascination with the clintoids after sixteen years. The Americzn people are the ultimate in “slow learners.”


29 posted on 12/20/2008 7:07:10 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

One doesn’t have to be anyone important or know anything to be the choice of the American people.


30 posted on 12/20/2008 7:08:24 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The American people just want “democracy”, and I think they are going to get a big dose of it.


31 posted on 12/20/2008 7:09:41 PM PST by Theodore R. (The most frightening words in the English language: The American people!)
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To: Arguendo

I’m pretty sure Harvard doesn’t even have a ‘college yearbook’. The do publish a bound book on the occasion of the 25th reunion. I have no idea about the Law School.


32 posted on 12/20/2008 7:11:35 PM PST by Jack Black (ping can't be a tag line, can it?)
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To: rocco55

I am also from Connecticut and have been thinking about how a group of us can file a lawsuit against SOMEONE. I would certainly hope that a Rep and a Senator would have the guts to stand up on January 8 and object if Obama gets the 270 electoral votes. We actually still don’t know for sure if he did. At first I believed the AP story put out the evening of the 15th, but now I’m wondering how they knew for sure. It’s a slim chance, but maybe he didn’t get the votes because of all the doubt out there.

I am also composing letters to Courtney, Dodd and Lieberman. I’ve called and sent emails already. These people are just parroting what they’ve come up with to rebut our facts without any facts of their own!

Right now it appears that we have a totally dysfunctional government at all levels. I read today that the We the People Foundation is going to have a convention in Philadelphia in February to discuss our out-of-control, unresponsive government. They will come up with a written plan and list of grievances to send to Congress. They will state that we will no longer lend this government our support. If millions of us sign on and refuse to pay taxes or whatever it takes, we can make them pay attention. That includes Usurper Obama.


33 posted on 12/20/2008 7:12:28 PM PST by newenglandpatriot
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To: Old Sarge

Lawyers take an oath to uphold the Constitution, and many take it seriously.

Why do you feel to put the guy down for wanting to adhere to the US Constitution? You dont usually have the need to feel superior, I’ve read your posts. This one seems out of character for you.


34 posted on 12/20/2008 7:17:28 PM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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To: tumblindice; LucyT
Obama is wasting the time of the Supreme Court of the United States—you or I could, and I think would have said long before now, “Here’s authentic proof that I’m a natural born citizen.”

That, sir, is the one reason I don't relegate this issue to the Tinfoil Hat Brigade file.

It is within Zero's power to release his booping birth certificate and end this matter. He doesn't. This may be because of pure arrogance rather than him having something to hide, but a reasonable person would find it suspicious. The issue at this point is not whether he becomes POTUS (he will, *sigh*), but rather a president-elect who's behaving like a criminal suspect.

Lucy, of possible interest to your list.

35 posted on 12/20/2008 7:17:36 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Every few generations the really, really bad ideas come back around for another go."--Howard Tayler)
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To: Theodore R.

How are they ever gonna make an in-depth documentary about this guy—like the ones in the PBS American Presidents series? We have already been told that neither his pastor nor any of his past political associates had any influence on him. Now there’s a complete lock-down on all the significant records of his life.


36 posted on 12/20/2008 7:19:33 PM PST by RepublicanMeansAmerican
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To: rocco55; Old Sarge

Good post. It is not over yet, rocco55. See my About page.

Old Sarge, I’ll call you out, pal. You may have been a warrior at one time - and for that our nation thanks you. However, it appears from looking at your About page that you have thrown in the towel. Among other things, the leftists you refer to are not Americans.


37 posted on 12/20/2008 7:20:13 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Canedawg

Do you also have the three-way side-by-side of BHO Sr as well as the other possible father (Marshal?), and Malcolm X? I saw it once but can’t locate it...


38 posted on 12/20/2008 7:23:18 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: tumblindice

I’m a lawyer.
When someone is asked a material question (not necessarily having been sworn) and an average or normal person under the circumstances would reply—or deny—but the person says nothing, that silence could be introduced as a “tacit admission”.
***That sounds a bit... quizzical. Is that a rule of evidence? I’m hoping you can provide some sort of legal code or somethingorother to help us along with this so that I can feel more confident using that argument moving forward.


39 posted on 12/20/2008 7:23:21 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: SERKIT

It’s at the link I posted in #23. scroll down a little, it may be what you’re looking for.


40 posted on 12/20/2008 7:25:41 PM PST by Canedawg ("The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it")
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