Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55
Attorney Berg said Mr. Obama is probably an "illegal alien".
If we cannot access his passports, his birth certificate, his college records:
1. Occidental College records -- Not released 2. Columbia College records -- Not released 3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available" 4. Harvard College records -- Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released 6. Medical records -- Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available 8. His Illinois State Senate records -- Not available 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released 11. Record of baptism -- Not available
and if he has multiple names:
Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry Soetoro
AND he specifically answered the "Any other names" on his bar application to obtain a law degree as "No", we can be sure MANY things about his past warrant serious and intense investigation !
I e-mailed Governor Lingle prior to Andy Martin's case requesting that she stand up for our Constitution. She IS a Republican and she DID make a comment prior to the election that Mr. Obama had limited political experience, so she may have somewhat of a clue what's going on - maybe a BIG CLUE ! Why else would Hussein send her a "Dear Linda" letter ?
Also, being from CT, I have been e-mailing Cort Wronowski for several weeks. It was TOO PITIFUL to see how the state dismissed his case and according to a radio interview, Leo said the state of CT refused to hear his case on improper grounds that did not even apply to his application as it was submitted. SURPRISE ! SURPRISE !
I also wrote Joseph Lieberman (our CT Senator) via certified mail and explained "in detail" the legitimacy of the TRUTH regarding "Factcheck", the short form cert and Obama's "sealed" history ! Is this the behavior of a cooperative official who wants to get to the TRUTH and bring about all this CHANGE ?
I informed him that, to date, there is NOT ONE hospital or medical facility in all Hawaii that has ANY record of Mr. Obama's birth and asked point blank: "Does this, in your highly qualified legal opinion, pose even the slightest 'shadow of a doubt' of this candidate's qualifications ?"
I further stated that if Mr. Obama is inaugurated on 1/20/09, he will place his hand on the Bible and vow to the American people that he will:
"PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES" ! !
I asked Mr. Lieberman:
"Could anything be more IMMEASURABLY IRONIC ????"
About 10 days back, I ran a post in FreeRepublic inquiring about OBAMA'S COLLEGE YEARBOOK. He graduated from Harvard in 1991, but is NOT in the 1991 Harvard Yearbook ! If he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, WHY NOT ?
I went on EBAY and searched EVERY possible college document, article, yearbook, alumni book, sports journal, etc. for Occidental, Princeton and Harvard Universities. I e-mailed questions to the sellers of the applicable items and asked if there was ANY mention of Barry or Barack and ALL of the replies were "NO, SORRY" !
One FreeRepublic reader commented that he went to Harvard personally and searched all College newspapers, announcements, etc., during the Obama years and was dismayed to find "several" missing pages ! He went to other years (prior and after Obama's attendance) and the papers were all intact ! Is this a coincidence ?
Obama's staff probably frequents this site daily to keep one step ahead of the competition. Having unlimited resources and a 30 million dollar campaign surplus, he can afford to have a 24/7 staff searching ANY negative feedback and once they find it, they can GOOGLE it to death with rebuttals. I told a friend who accused me of being an "ultra-right-wing die-hard Republican" about six weeks ago to search 'Obama birth certificate' on line and see for herself.
She wrote back and said the first 6 hits all said the birth cert is real and it was even verified by TWO reviewers "FactCheck" and "PolitiFact" ! Pul----lease !
I was recently summoned for Jury Duty and today I wrote the Judicial Branch of CT that I will not serve Jury duty because the state of CT turned down Cort Wronowski's case and sent in their electoral votes without verifying that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen and he may not even be a U.S. citizen AT ALL ! Consequently, I cannot serve a judicial system that does not uphold and defend our Constitution.
Obama most likely attended college as a "foreign student" and is possibly still not a legal U.S. citizen. Why else would he go to such great lengths to "seal" ---or better stated, "CONCEAL" his past ?
The dilemma we face is, without someone kidnapping his children and holding them hostage for his birth cert, we might all DIE with that document sitting in a vault ! How sad is that ?
I entertained the idea of actually renting a Highway Billboard (I heard it's approximately $1500 for one month) with a slogan that could not be regarded as racist --possibly :
"I'D RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT IS 100% BLACK AND HONEST THAN ONE WHO IS HALF-WHITE AND WON'T SHOW HIS BIRTH CERT ! "
How else can we get the attention of ANYONE ? 99% of all Americans do not even know there is a CRISIS going on because when the MSM covers a "lawsuit dismissal", it is portrayed in a such a negative light with the usual "Factcheck" references and the "mis-information" that the state of Hawaii has "confirmed that Obama was born there", that the public has no choice but to accept it ! Of course, they think we're kooks ! It's what they're being told by NBC, CBS, FOX, Associated Press, etc.
Would it make sense to file a more basic and fundamental lawsuit (possibly against Pelosi, who had the unmitigated gall to sign off on his eligibility) to verify if Hussein is even a U. S. citizen AT ALL ? Would that obligate the defendants to produce even a passport, or this that TOO MUCH to hope for ? !
I find myself searching and praying for ANY legitimate way of exposing this Usurper...only saving grace is, if we are near the "end of the World", maybe this is part of God's plan....when ancient Israel rejected Him, He gave them what they wanted "King Saul", who proved to be unfaithful and was superseded by David...but for us, we can still fight and appeal our cause....even JESUS called Herod a "fox" !
Any attorneys out there ? Is a case against Pelosi worth pursuing ? Is the "cititzen" question, in and of itself (without the 'natural born' issue) a case less likely to be dismissed ? Can anyone else brainstorm a better option ??
Just to rehash what another FReeper posted earlier and has a significant message about how we are spending our time on the boards;
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/breaking-you-know-this-audiotape-is-bad-for-obama-really-bad-because-obamas-followers-got-dead-silent-all-of-a-sudden/#comment-12850
# sarah p Says:
October 27, 2008 at 5:04 am
Ok, I want to clear my conscious a little. Hopefully you could make a blog post to help some fellow clinton supporters out.
I work for a campaign and can’t wait for this week to be over.
I was doing it for a job. I was not a fan of any candidate but over time grew to love HRC.
The internal campaign idea is to twist, distort, humiliate and finally dispirit you.
We pay people and organize people to go to all the online sites and “play the part of a clinton or mccain supporter who just switched our support for obama”
We do this to stifle your motivation and to destroy your confidence.
We did this the whole primary and it worked.
Sprinkle in mass vote confusion and it becomes bewildering. Most people lose patience and just give up on their support of a candidate and decide to just block out tv, news, websites, etc.
This surprisingly has had a huge suppressing movement and vote turnout issues.
Next, we infiltrate all the blogs and all the youtube videos and overwhelm the voting, the comments, etc. All to continue this appearance of overwhelming world support.
People makes posts to the effect that the world has “gone mad”
Thats the intention. To make you feel stressed and crazy and feel like the world is ending.
We have also had quite a hand in skewing many many polls, some we couldn’t control as much as we would have liked. But many we have spoiled over. Just enough to make real clear politics look scarey to a mccain supporter. Its worked, alough the goal was to appear 13-15 points ahead.
see, the results have been working. People tend to support a winner, go with the flow, become “sheeple”
The polls are roughly 3-5 points in favor of Barack. Thats due to our inflation of the polls and pulling in the sheeple.
Our donors, are the same people who finance the MSM. Their interests are tied, Barack then tends to come across as teflon. Nothing sticks. And trust, there were meetings with Fox news. The goal was to blunt them as much as possible. Watch Bill Oreilly he has become much more diplomatic and “fair and balanced” and soft. Its because he wants to retain the #1 spot on cable news and to do that he has to have access to the Obama campaign and we worked hard at stringing him a long and keeping him soft for an interview swap. It worked and now he is anticipating more access. So he is playing it still soft.
This is why nothing sticks.
The operation is massive, the goal is to paint a picture that is that of a winner, regardless of the results.
There is no true inauguration draft or true grant park construction going on. There will be a party, but we are boasting beyond the truth to make it seem like the election is wrapped up.
Our goal is to continue to make you lose your moral. We worked hard at persuasion and paying off and timing and playing the right political numbers to get key republican endorsements to make it seem even more like it was over and the world was coming to an end for you all.
There is a huge staff of people working around the clock, watching every site, blogs, etc. We flood these sites. We have had a goal to overwhelm.
The truth is here. I could go on and on, but you get the picture.
I am saying this because I know HRC was better for the country, and now realize this. I was too late by the time I connected to her. To me Barack was just a cool young dude that seemed like a star. I didn’t know him or his policies, but now I understand more than I care to and I realize his interests are more for him, and the DNC and all working like puppets with dean. I always thought a president wanted the better good for the country. The end result I see is everyone dependent on the government, this means more and more people voting for the DNC. This means the future is forever altered. I don’t see this as america, so I am now supporting John Mccain.
Sarah Palin is a huge threat, and our campaign has feared her like you can’t imagine. If it seems unfair how she has been treated, well its because she has had a team working round the clock to make her look like a fool.
this is a big conspiracy and I am so shocked that its not realized.
We released a little blurb the other day that the Obama campaign was already working on reelection and now putting our efforts towards 2012. This was to make it seem like it was above us to continue caring about 2008. Trust me, its a lie. David is very smart, but its a sticky ugly not very truthful kind of intelligence.
Its not over yet, but I think the machine is working. And its a hill to climb.
I will be quitting my post on nov 5th and my vote will be for John Mccain. Fortunately, my position has been a marketing position and I don’t feel I had any part of anything I would feel guilty for. But I look forward to getting out of this as the negativity and environment upsets me.
I wish you all well, and goodluck.
PS my name is not really sarah. but I am a female and I understand your plight.
dictators wishing to eliminate millions of people have always done so in centralized locations. Much easier, more tidy, secretive.
This won't happen for years, yet. probably. We will have time to organize, plan.
I saw the pschopath Ayers’ name in an article or two pertaining to this.
I like the new tagline.
The rights afforded by the Fifth Amendment, including the right to not be compelled to testify against oneself, expressly apply to criminal matters. There is no such protection in civil, or non-criminal matters.
You created the Odumbo-X morph?
Fantastic work!
I hope you dont mind that I posted it.
Honestly, this is relatively simple. This is taught to elementary school children...”Connect the Dots”.
Now...better'n "chicagObama"
better'n "Barky the Mutt"
We have:
Malcolm O
In fact you are wrong. The 5th amendment applies to all and any court proceedings, affidavits, discovery motions, anything that might lead to uncovering something that MIGHT be used in a criminal case.
If you were driving down the street with a carload of stolen stuff, and you went off the road and hit a fence, you could immediately shut your mouth and demand an attorney, even if all that was going on was the fence owner wanted you to get his fence repainted.
No, you mistated it, and you are wrong as to the application of the Fifth Amendment.
It applies to self-incrimination, and does not apply to matters where criminal admissions are not an issue.
If you do not want to say something after an accident, it is in your example because the person knew they were involved in a criminal activity. the Fifth Amendment applies to that.
If a civil motion is filed against you, and you do not respond, you have defaulted and in all likelihood the motion would be decided against you.
When we take the oaths that commit us to defending the US Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic, the troops wind up doing all the heavy lifting regarding foreign enemies.
It is the purvue of the Constitutionalist citizens, candidates, judges and lawyers to deal with "enemies domestic". They are an equally important contingent in the preservation of the American experiment.
In my opinion, not nearly enough action has been waged in the domestic theater of the Global War on Terror. But, then again, maybe all that is about to change.
Laissez les bon temps rouler!
OK, I went back to prior post and your comments. I agree, however, it was not Gov Lingle who was combative in denying Andy Martin access to the birth cert at 11/18 Hawaiian hearing, it was the Attorney General. I think “all” Hawaiian birth records are private, not just Hussein’s (?)
While Andy Martin is not an attorney, he had his guns loaded with 25 pages of documentation and prior cases which could’ve been considered to establish some precedence for his case, but according to his site, after a 30 minute “vigorous” testimonial debate with the Attorney General, he was denied. It KILLS me that this document is just “sitting there” while the media is reporting on the new White House dog and what color drapes Michelle Hussein will choose for the White House Dinig Room ! !
What I do, as a courtesy to the authors who created an image or graphic, is to include an acknowledgment to them if their name does not appear on it.
Did you see the other morf of BHO & MX that I made?
I will include a note that you made it if I post it again.
No, I havent seen your other morph. Can you post it here?
So, in a civil or non-criminal matter can a person can be forced to say something that can and will be used against him in a separate and criminal matter or can what the person is forced to say not be used against him in a separate and criminal matter?
There is no evidence available of any nature anywhere that Obama was born in Hawaii or anywhere else in the US.
On the other hand, there is abundant evidence that he was born in Mombasa, in Kenya.
If he was born in Kenya, 8 USC Sec. 1401(g) makes it clear that he was not a United States Citizen at birth. The legal authorities describing the origin of the term "natural born citizen" make it clear that the clause was used by the founders for the purpose of requiring that the President of the United States have been born within the geographical confines of the several states, probably to two US Citizen parents.
So the short answer is that absent a subsequent naturalization proceeding which may in fact have occurred, Obama is not a U S Citizen. And the prerequisites of a naturalization proceeding require him to exclude the elements of the status of "natural born citizen" under the Constitution.
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