UFO over Suffolk Cathedral: Possible photo emerges

All News Web ^ | 17-12-2008 | Masha Dimitriov

[indianbob]

Earlier this month we reported about a sighting of a luminous grey UFO in the historic town of Bury St Edmunds in the United Kingdom. The UFO was seen spinning and hovering over the St Edmundsbury Cathedral by a townsman who promptly notified the police. It later emerged that the UFO was also seen by a staff member of the Cathedral. Sarah Friswell, the Cathedrals visitor officer, noted that the topic of the mysterious craft had come up in a staff meeting and

[mysterio]

I’m not sure what that is, but I can guess what it’s not : a space monster’s ship.

[mkjessup]

You didn’t answer my question, Buddy Love.

a.) I don't answer to you.

b.) You ain't my buddy.

c.) There is most definitely no love involved.

Your beliefs are noted, and we're done.

Adios.

[JoJo Gunn]

Just as I suspected. You sashayed in here, pretending to be witty and urbane and oh-so wordly, but when cornered....

You must be fresh out of junior high, not knowing who Buddy Love is. Or maybe you're just a "phuckwit"?

*snicker*

[mkjessup]

You’re just upset that posters won’t respond to you as you wish them to. You are mentally constrained by such unrealistic expectations. Consider some good self-help books to assist your impaired intellect.

[JoJo Gunn]

Consider some good self-help books to assist your impaired intellect.

"Impaired intellect"? But aren't you the "phuckwit" who believes in flying saucers?

[mkjessup]

I believe there are unexplained phenomena in the skies, and in space, and I am joined in that belief by individuals who are above reproach. Go ahead, ask who they are. You know you want to, your Pavlovian state of mind compels you to ask.

[JoJo Gunn]

....and I am joined in that belief by individuals who are above reproach. Go ahead, ask who they are.

I don't care who they are. A lot of prominent people believe in global warming, but that consensus doesn't mean squat either.

Consensus is not science, nor is it "proof" that an advanced being comes here to vandalize farmland, poke our behinds while we sleep, give light shows to a select few, or stick tiny transmitters in our noses that just happens to transmit in our FM band. Only a juvenile dumbass believes in that crap.

[mkjessup]

Here Fido, while you drool at the dinner bell, chew on these statements from far better men than you:

Major Gordon Cooper:

One of the original Mercury Astronauts and the last American to fly in space alone. On May 15, 1963 he shot into space in a Mercury capsule for a 22 orbit journey around the world. During the final orbit, Major Gordon Cooper told the tracking station at Muchea (near Perth Australia) that he could see a glowing, greenish object ahead of him quickly approaching his capsule. The UFO was real and solid, because it was picked up by Muchea's tracking radar. Cooper's sighting was reported by NBC, which was covering the flight step by step; but when Cooper landed, reporters were told that they would not be allowed to question him about the UFO sighting.

Major Cooper was a firm believer in UFOs. Ten years earlier, in 1951 he had sighted a UFO while piloting an F-86 Sabrejet over Western Germany. They were metallic, saucer-shaped discs at considerable altitude and could out-maneuver all American fighter planes. Major Cooper also testified before the United Nations: "I believe that these extra-terrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets... Most astronauts were reluctant to discuss UFOs." "I did have occasion in 1951 to have two days of observation of many flights of them, of different sizes, flying in fighter formation, generally from east to west over Europe."

And according to a taped interview by J. L. Ferrando, Major Cooper said: "For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public. Why? Because the authorities are afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means."

"I was furthermore a witness to an extraordinary phenomenon, here on this planet Earth. It happened a few months ago in Florida. There I saw with my own eyes a defined area of ground being consumed by flames, with four indentions left by a flying object which had descended in the middle of a field. Beings had left the craft (there were other traces to prove this). They seemed to have studied topography, they had collected soil samples and, eventually, they returned to where they had come from, disappearing at enormous speed... I happen to know the authorities did just about everything to keep this incident from the press and TV, in fear of a panic reaction from the public."


Major Donald Slayton

Another of the original Mercury astronauts, revealed in an interview he had seen UFOs in 1951: "I was testing a P-51 fighter in Minneapolis when I spotted this object. I was at about 10,000 feet on a nice, bright, sunny afternoon. I thought the object was a kite, then I realized that no kite is gonna fly that high." As I got closer it looked like a weather balloon, grey and about three feet in diameter. But as soon as I got behind the darn thing it didn't look like a balloon anymore. It looked like a saucer, a disk. About the same time, I realized that it was suddenly going away from me - and there I was, running at about 300 miles per hour. I tracked it for a little way, and then all of a sudden the damn thing just took off. It pulled about a 45 degree climbing turn and accelerated and just flat disappeared."


Major General Robert White

On July 17, 1962 Major White reported a UFO during his fifty-eight-mile high flight of an X-15. Major White reported: "I have no idea what it could be. It was grayish in color and about thrity to forty feet away." According to reports later made public in Time Magazine, Major White exclaimed over the radio: "There ARE things out there! There absolutely is!"


Captain Joe Walker

On May 11, 1962 NASA pilot Joseph Walker said that one of his tasks was to detect UFOs during his X-15 flights. He had filmed five or six UFOs during his record breaking fifty-mile-high flight in April, 1962. It was the second time he had filmed UFOs in flight. During a lecture at the Second National Conference on the Peaceful Uses of Space Research in Seattle, Washigton he said: "I don't feel like speculating about them. All I know is what appeared on the film which was developed after the flight."

With a tip o' the hat to www.syti.net

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Of course you will most likely dismiss what these highly trained and heroic aeronautical pioneers had to say about the subject of UFOs, you, who are not even qualified to empty their integrated UCD.

It's been fun, thanks for playing.

[JoJo Gunn]

It's been fun, thanks for playing.

Just because an astronaut believes in flying saucers doesn't prove a damn thing. Aliens so far ahead of us to be able to come here will not exhibit such deeply Freudian actions as being interested solely in the intestinal tracts of humans. 

(Oh, that was such a quaint touch to throw the word "heroic" in to bolster your shaky argument. Astronauts are not heroes like firemen or the military are, regardless of the propaganda of NASA and Life magazine. When younger, I'd have gone on the Shuttle if asked. If you want to be essentially strapped to a bomb in order to see Earth from such a once in a lifetime vantage point, fine, but don't claim to be a "hero")

[mkjessup]

We’re not talking about only ‘belief’, we are talking about actual observation of unidentified aerial and/or space phenomena.

For someone who is convinced that the topic is all garbage, you seem fixated on trying to discredit and minimize any interest in the subject.

As for astronauts not being ‘heroes’? Ask the families of Gus Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee if they were heroes or not. Or perhaps the crews of Challenger and Columbia? With your mindset, the Wright Brothers would have dropped the whole silly idea of ‘flight’, and stayed on the ground.

Of course that fits in with my accurate depiction of your mentality, i.e., “ostrich-like”.

I pity you.

[JoJo Gunn]

We’re not talking about only ‘belief’, we are talking about actual observation of unidentified aerial and/or space phenomena.

Yeah, so again the question is asked, where's the proof that it's space aliens? I've seen odd things before, but unlike you I don't willy-nilly proclaim that they come from another dimension. 

For someone who is convinced that the topic is all garbage, you seem fixated on trying to discredit and minimize any interest in the subject.

The hoaxers, carnival barkers, and mental patients have done far more damage than I ever could.

As for astronauts not being ‘heroes’?

Must I really repeat myself? Regardless of the propaganda, an astronaut is not a hero. Calling them heroes might make you forget the bureaucratic obscenity that is NASA, the Alphabet agency that's sent all those dead people to their graves because of largely preventable causes (stuffing astronauts in a pure oxygen atmosphere, launching when it's too cold,  pleasing the Greenfece types by changing the insulating foam). Still, they haven't saved anyone's life, not one, and it can be argued that most of what the Shuttle does is crap. Do we really need to spend billions to see spiders make odd webs and risk human lives to do it? How about sending the spiders up there by themselves with a damn video camera trained on them?

Now I'm not dismissing any of their lves, far from it. But the very word hero has been bastardized and diluted for decades, and I reserve the right to use the word for the guy who is at this moment lying in a burn unit somewhere fighting for his own life because he tried to save someone else's life or property. NASA doesn't take very good care of my money, as you'll notice when you go to their various web sites and see all the global warming garbage.

As for being "ostrich like",  it's actually almost impossible for a sane rational man to escape from all the hoaxers, carnival barkers, and mental patients.

[mkjessup]

Now I'm not dismissing any of their lives, far from it.

You already have.

Must I really repeat myself?

You must, you seem to love regurgitating the same old meaningless platitudes.

The hoaxers, carnival barkers, and mental patients have done far more damage than I ever could.

You consider the previous mentioned aviators and astronauts to be in that category? They have all observed phenomena that cannot be explained, you prattle about "where's the proof", the fact is that even if there isn't an extraterrestrial craft parked outside your humble abode wherever it is in Tennessee that you reside, it doesn't mean that there is no "proof". You cannot see gravity, but you feel it's effects. You breathe in air to feed your lungs even though you're unable to actually 'see' that air. And the neurons of your brain (close minded as they are) continue to fire even though you are personally unable to witness their activity.

You are merely a run of the mill contrarian, if you experience something that fits into your personal framework of what "does" or "does not" exist, then it exists. However if you are confronted with something that you've already made your mind up about does NOT "exist", nothing that anyone can do is going to convince you otherwise.

There have been many encounters between the pilots of both commercial and military aircraft, and unidentified flying objects. Those pilots are professionals, trained to observe anything and everything they may encounter, and they are not 'hoaxers' or 'carnival barkers' or 'mental patients', they are individuals that are entrusted with the lives of others on a regular basis, even though you would dismiss them as insane.

Their observations and conclusions quite frankly carry far more weight than your puerile, hide-under-the-bed, denials.

Now I'm sure that for you, this has been an enjoyable episode of mental masturbation but now it's time for you to give your figurative wrists a rest.

Enjoy your closed mind.

[JoJo Gunn]

....puerile, hide-under-the-bed, denials.

....an enjoyable episode of mental masturbation....

The fact remains that there's no tangible proof of the existence of aliens from other planets. But hey, at least you have your Buddy Love routine.

[mkjessup]

*ding ding*

There’s your bell bucko, start drooling and do let me hear from you again, looks like I’ve got you well trained now.

[JoJo Gunn]

Just one more thing, Buddy. The part about "puerile, hide-under-the-bed, denials".

People who think for themselves, who question the data handed to them, (such as it is),  live in fear? That kind of nonsense is why you flying saucer "consensus" types will never be taken seriously, no matter how many astronauts you've deified.

A thinking man would expect that kind of "consensus" idiocy on a liberal site, but here? On a Conservative forum?!?

[ZX12R]

That kind of nonsense is why you flying saucer "consensus" types will never be taken seriously,

And also because they're:

[mkjessup]

Just one more thing,,,the part about "puerile, hide-under-the-bed, denials"

That one really got under your skin didn't it? LOL

People who think for themselves, who question the data handed to them, (such as it is), live in fear? That kind of nonsense is why you flying saucer "consensus" types will never be taken seriously, no matter how many astronauts you've deified.

Nice red herring. There IS no 'consensus' at this point, there is a general belief that there is *something* or *someone* making an appearance in our atmosphere, on the ground, in the near regions of space around our planet, and your problem is that your abysmal talents of observation and analysis cannot even begin to compare with the abilities and skills of professional pilots and astronauts. In a hypothetical court proceeding, their statements as to what they have observed would be given far greater credence than yours, because they've been professionally trained, you're just a whining contrarian.

A thinking man would expect that kind of "consensus" idiocy on a liberal site, but here? On a Conservative forum?!?

A "thinking" man would not dismiss out of hand alternate possibilities using the weak minded argument of "no proof, it doesn't exist", and pull those blinders ever tighter over their eyes. The fact is, it is you who exhibits the classic liberal mindset in that you refuse to acknowledge or consider anything that doesn't fit into your liberal orthodoxy of denial. It is conservatives who traditionally keep an open mind about ALL things, not accepting blanket statements or mindlessly swallowing blind statements of disbelief from those who haven't got a clue, like you.

In your warped little world, unless you too saw an apple fall from a tree to the ground, Sir Isaac Newton would be one of those 'hoaxers' or 'carnival barkers' you were mewling about last night.

*ding ding*

Back to you Fido.

[JoJo Gunn]

That one really got under your skin didn't it? LOL

Quite the contrary. It revealed you as just another mental cripple. Or a "phuckwit", if you will. 

[JoJo Gunn]

You got that right!

But even Special Ed types deserve internet priviliges. ;)

[mkjessup]

Quite the contrary. It revealed you as just another mental cripple. Or a "phuckwit", if you will.

And what does that say about you, that you got your clock cleaned by a 'mental cripple', and you were (as always) unable to respond except with the classic liberal "deny, deny, deny"?

Your mind is closed. You are intellectually incapable of considering anything that challenges your miniscule world view.

Classic liberal, that's you. Your attempting to apply that label to me was classic projection.