To: mkjessup
Were not talking about only belief, we are talking about actual observation of unidentified aerial and/or space phenomena.Yeah, so again the question is asked, where's the proof that it's space aliens? I've seen odd things before, but unlike you I don't willy-nilly proclaim that they come from another dimension.
For someone who is convinced that the topic is all garbage, you seem fixated on trying to discredit and minimize any interest in the subject.
The hoaxers, carnival barkers, and mental patients have done far more damage than I ever could.
As for astronauts not being heroes?
Must I really repeat myself? Regardless of the propaganda, an astronaut is not a hero. Calling them heroes might make you forget the bureaucratic obscenity that is NASA, the Alphabet agency that's sent all those dead people to their graves because of largely preventable causes (stuffing astronauts in a pure oxygen atmosphere, launching when it's too cold, pleasing the Greenfece types by changing the insulating foam). Still, they haven't saved anyone's life, not one, and it can be argued that most of what the Shuttle does is crap. Do we really need to spend billions to see spiders make odd webs and risk human lives to do it? How about sending the spiders up there by themselves with a damn video camera trained on them?
Now I'm not dismissing any of their lves, far from it. But the very word hero has been bastardized and diluted for decades, and I reserve the right to use the word for the guy who is at this moment lying in a burn unit somewhere fighting for his own life because he tried to save someone else's life or property. NASA doesn't take very good care of my money, as you'll notice when you go to their various web sites and see all the global warming garbage.
As for being "ostrich like", it's actually almost impossible for a sane rational man to escape from all the hoaxers, carnival barkers, and mental patients.
71 posted on
12/17/2008 9:32:13 PM PST by
JoJo Gunn
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To: JoJo Gunn
Now I'm not dismissing any of their lives, far from it.
You already have.
Must I really repeat myself?
You must, you seem to love regurgitating the same old meaningless platitudes.
The hoaxers, carnival barkers, and mental patients have done far more damage than I ever could.
You consider the previous mentioned aviators and astronauts to be in that category? They have all observed phenomena that cannot be explained, you prattle about "where's the proof", the fact is that even if there isn't an extraterrestrial craft parked outside your humble abode wherever it is in Tennessee that you reside, it doesn't mean that there is no "proof". You cannot see gravity, but you feel it's effects. You breathe in air to feed your lungs even though you're unable to actually 'see' that air. And the neurons of your brain (close minded as they are) continue to fire even though you are personally unable to witness their activity.
You are merely a run of the mill contrarian, if you experience something that fits into your personal framework of what "does" or "does not" exist, then it exists. However if you are confronted with something that you've already made your mind up about does NOT "exist", nothing that anyone can do is going to convince you otherwise.
There have been many encounters between the pilots of both commercial and military aircraft, and unidentified flying objects. Those pilots are professionals, trained to observe anything and everything they may encounter, and they are not 'hoaxers' or 'carnival barkers' or 'mental patients', they are individuals that are entrusted with the lives of others on a regular basis, even though you would dismiss them as insane.
Their observations and conclusions quite frankly carry far more weight than your puerile, hide-under-the-bed, denials.
Now I'm sure that for you, this has been an enjoyable episode of mental masturbation but now it's time for you to give your figurative wrists a rest.
Enjoy your closed mind.
72 posted on
12/18/2008 1:02:51 AM PST by
mkjessup
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