FR Gun Club: Sighting In A New Rifle

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[Neil E. Wright]

You can't be to careful when sighting in your expensive new deer rifle .........

1. Shiny new, high-powered deer rifle..............$ 1,200.00

2. Quality, high-powered scope........................$ 550.00

3. Bore sighting device.....................................$ 140.00

4. Hospital Visit......................$ 4,893.00

5. Forgetting to remove the bore sighting device prior to actually shooting? Disastrous

"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid."
-John Wayne

[Nebr FAL owner]

I have seen a rifle do just that once nearly 25 years ago . The owner of the rifle had taken it out of a soft case & loade a couple rounds . Some of the padding of the soft case had managed to get stuck in the barrel ,this was not apparent to the owner who pulled the trigger . Peeled the barrel all the way bac to the front of the receiver of the rifle blew out the floor plate of the internal magazine split the stock . Owner was shaken but unhurt needed a change of skivies however.

[Eaker]

Contrary to popular belief I spend a lot of my time relatively unblown up!

;<)

[Squantos]

Crazy stuff huh.......:o)

[gundog]

The rifle looks like a Savage 110.

Anybody that pays $1,200 for a Savage 110 deserves whatever happens to them.

[19th LA Inf]

Did the fuse detonate as a result of the acceleration shock, ie, was the round on its way out of the tube when it went off?

We found in the course of tests involving night vision scopes that acceleration shock at the breech of a 105mm tank gun was much less than on the M14 rifle, and that M16s were the worst. A time plot on an oscilloscope showed that the peak shock with the rifles came from the bolt slamming home, rather than anything to do with the round itself.

[hiredhand]

Contrary to popular belief I spend a lot of my time relatively unblown up!

I think it's a good thing to stay unblown up. At least I try to stay that way! So far, so good! :-)

[hiredhand]

I just wonder WTF the shooter said and did in the moment afterwards! Talking about a MAJOR FAIL :-)

[Squantos]

The series of pics is fake according to K9kid. The person injured in the picture was not related to this series of pics. As well look at the one good picture of the barrel interior , just a inch from the muzzle. Something was there and not sure of it was this device as well.....

[Petruchio]

The cat (sitting next to him on the bed) instantly went into anti-gravity mode and stuck to the ceiling and ran from the room via the ceiling, blazing a path to the bedroom door! . . .

[snip]

. . . The cat hasn't been the same since though. :-)

ROTFLMAO!!!! Now I have that picture stuck in my head. LOL!

[hiredhand]

I’ll have to say....I HAVE seen the series before....but NOT with the photo of the injured guy. I’ll take a look at the end of the bbl.

[hiredhand]

ROTFLMAO!!!! Now I have that picture stuck in my head. LOL!

Yeah...he called her "Anti-Gravity Kitty" for quite awhile! This same brother of mine did something "else" after having the A/D in the house with the AMD-65.

He had a problem with the cat jumping on the screen door at the kitchen leading to the outside. He called me one day and said that he thought he had a solution. He told me about this contraption that he made which was really nothing more than a wooden frame that he duct taped to the outside of the screen door. It allowed enough room between the bare wires pinned on it for the cat to still get a grip to the screen, but these wires were attached to an extension cord...PLUGGED IN.... but insulated from each other on the wooden frame. I told him that he was going to HURT HIMSELF and that he probably ought not "play" with house current!

He was determined to keep that cat off the door though. He said he had replaced about 5 screens and that his wife made him promise that he wouldn't shoot the cat. He called me later that afternoon in hysterics! :-) He couldn't stop laughing! It took him a full five minutes to tell me what happened. :-) He said that the cat jumped onto the screen and he was sitting in the kitchen at the end of the extension cord waiting for the moment. He said that the cat jumped onto the screen and he plugged er in! He said an amazing blue flash from the electrical arc appeared at the door where the cat became an "electrical conductor", accompanied by a very LOUD humming noise, followed by a loud screech and some smoke. He said the cat was simply GONE. He thought he had disintegrated the cat. But on his way to the door to see what happened, the cat landed out in the yard almost 50 feet from the door!...and immediately took off in a blur to the woods about 50 yards away! He said the cat must have been way, WAY in the air!

I had to walk him through finding and resetting the breaker for that circuit. The circuit breaker is probably what saved the cat from getting completely toasted. :-)

He said after this, the cat wouldn't get any closer than about TWO feet from that door! His wife tried to find out how he "trained" the cat, but he wouldn't say! :-)

[Jcon]

quote “BTW — while I’ve got your ear, what’s your thoughts on who makes the best lever gun aside from the BLR these days? I mean a levergun in the classic blunt-nosed rounds... it seems to me that Winchester’s quality on the W94’s was going downhill during the 80’s and 90’s and I’ve got to believe that there is better out there.”

My vote has always been for Marlin. Yes, they’re a little heavier than a ‘94, maybe, but they’re a very solid, well-made gun.

[papagall]

The action on the Marlin is a better design, also. No ‘cam’ is used in the Marlin system that can be out of adjustment allowing ambiguous ejection/release from the magazine. The Marlin is lighter by a little bit, unless you're talking about the octagonal barrel.

[Charles Martel]

...He wasn't paying particular attention and had just returned from being outside with the rifle. The safety was off, and there was a round in the chamber (you see this coming don't you!).

Years ago - '89 or so, IIRC, a secretary at my office asked me how she should go about selling some guns that had belonged to her father. Naturally, I felt obliged to help. :-)

I asked whether she knew what the makes and models were, but all she knew was that there were five long guns cased in her hall closet, where they'd been since her dad passed away years before. Her husband was clueless about guns, so I offered to have a look and bring the guns to a local gunshop to get an appraisal.

My instructions were simple: Don't touch the guns, just leave them in the cases and put them in your car trunk. Easy, right? Well, she showed up the next day and opened her trunk. As I moved the cases to my car, I noticed one of the cases had a bullet hole in the end. Poking my finger in the frayed puncture, I looked at her with an eyebrow raised.

She got a sheepish look on her face, then 'fessed-up. Fearing the guns would be dusty and unsightly, she decided to partially open the cases and wipe them off. That case held a Winchester 94, and somehow she managed to work the lever and then, when dusting, she hit the trigger.

Luckily, the bullet went through an outside wall in a direction that posed no danger to her neighbors. After her ears stopped ringing, she tried to conceal her little mistake by hanging a picture over the bullet hole.

She told me that her husband noticed the new picture and discovered the hole right away. She couldn't figure why he'd been suspicious of what was behind the picture, until I mentioned that he'd probably seen the bullet hole on the *outside* of that wall. "Ohhhh...", she replied.

*sigh*

[An Old Man]

"I’ve used this technique on everything from .375’s down to .17HMR’s"

Your method works quite well for 106MM rifles also. just increase the target distance to 3,000 yards or more.

[hiredhand]

A/Ds and close quarters discharges are NOT pleasant. I've taught all of my young adults how to effectively handle a great many small arms and we started when they were under 10. One "incident" in particular comes to mind. :-) My 13 yr old is a larger person. He's not fat, just a big guy. So he was able to learn to use the AR-15, A2 model when he was about 8. I was showing him how to "shoot-n-scoot" on a CQB range that we had down the hill from our house...we were also doing some least dominant hand/eye shooting. We had concluded the shoot and I told everybody there (there were about 5 of us) to make all the weapons SAFE. This meant that mags were removed, bolts locked to the rear and then let the "safety guy" (me in this instance) check them and send them to another small area on the range until everybody was checked. I watched my son unload his rifle, but before he dropped the magazine, he racked the charging handle and simply stripped another round from the magazine. So when I came to him, I TOLD him to unload the rifle. He told me that he ALREADY unloaded the rifle. I said, "NO. You did NOT. Now unload it!" Again he replied that the rifle was UNLOADED. He was carrying it slung topside and the muzzle was pointed at the ground several inches to his left of his left foot. I stepped forward, turned the selector switch to "fire", pointed the muzzle a little farther away from his foot and pulled the trigger! *KA-BOOM*... to which I replied. "NOW the rifle is unloaded! He looked at me like he had just seen a ghost. :-) I told him to give ME the rifle and go to the house to his MOTHER....shame!...shame!....shame! :-)

When I got to the house later, I covered what he had done incorrectly and he understood. I told him that the next time I had to interrogate him to get him to clear a weapon that I would beat him in front of the other guys....which would be secondary to him being a hazard with a firearm!

He will never, EVER forget the incident and is now one of the safest shooters I know! He's my primary shooting partner right now. :-) If he hands me a weapon, and tells me it's unloaded, I believe him! I still check though...as we all should! :-)

[NVDave]

How accurate are recoilless rifles? And what kind of practical range can you get out of them?

A farm equipment dealer in Nevada told me that they used 106’s mounted in jeeps to take out snipers during Tet. He was quite PO’ed about how the press mis-represented Tet as some sort of rout for our guys - he said “We had to hustle, sure, but we were never retreating. Snipers? Pfah - we’d get a radio call, go zipping over to a street that led up to the building with the sniper(s) in it, let fly with a round or two from the 106... no more sniper, no more problem. Then we’d go onto the next radio call...”

He didn’t mention what sort of range they were shooting at — just that the 106 worked like a charm and then some. Said that there were days they were in “high demand.”

[An Old Man]

"How accurate are recoilless rifles? And what kind of practical range can you get out of them?"

Point your browser to the ONTOS web site where you can read about how we used what has been called the Worlds Biggest Shotgun.

I worked in Battalion Maintence and had 45 of these "things" (ONTOS in Greek means the thing) each equipped with six (6) 106MM recoilless rifles to maintain. Your post reminded me of that one of my jobs was to make sure that the spotting rifles (50 Cal), 106's and the optical sights were all lined up on the target. Our test range for that purpose was 3,000 yards and the targets were empty 55 Gallon oil drums. Once the sights were in alignment a good gunner could put one of those 106's through the drum nearly every time.

Keep in mind that the 106 was a direct fire weapon. That means ya gotta see it to hit it. But, with an aiming stake, a gunners quadrant and a device to fire the rifle from a distance, targets out of sight have been destroyed.

Semper Fi
An Old Man

[DuncanWaring]

He ain’t never gonna get that thing back in the case.

[mylife]

Wh00psie!