When you get right down to the bottom of things ...
... the floors are sticky.
Posted on 12/08/2008 11:56:24 AM PST by Soliton
Is there a God or a multiverse? Does modern cosmology force us to choose? Is it the case that the apparent fine-tuning of constants and forces to make the universe just right for life means there is either a need for a "tuner" or else a cosmos in which every possible variation of these constants and forces exists somewhere?
This choice has provoked anxious comment in the pages of this week's New Scientist. It follows an article in Discover magazine, in which science writer Tim Folger quoted cosmologist Bernard Carr: "If you don't want God, you'd better have a multiverse."
Even strongly atheistic physicists seem to believe the choice is unavoidable. Steven Weinberg, the closest physics comes to a Richard Dawkins, told the eminent biologist: "If you discovered a really impressive fine-tuning ... I think you'd really be left with only two explanations: a benevolent designer or a multiverse."
The anxiety in the New Scientist stems in part from the way this apparent choice has been leapt upon by the intelligent design people. Scientists don't like that since it seems to suggest that ID offers a theory that cosmologists are taking seriously. It doesn't of course: ID wasn't science before the multiverse hypothesis gained prominence, just a few years ago; and it hasn't become science since.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
When you get right down to the bottom of things ...
... the floors are sticky.
Burned......
It's the gluons
Of course. Why do you think the Bible would describe everything there is to know about God?
Do you have a science text that describes everything there is to know about origins?
We don't understand origins but we got here somehow.
Are you saying you don't believe in the concept of origins?
I see. So you freely embrace the multiverse theory as a possibility with no evidence that you don't understand as plausible, but NOT I.D. BECAUSE you don't understand it and have no evidence.
Well, see we all knew your problems weren't based on science but based solely on insecurities about God/religion.
Welcome to reality soliton!
NOW see if you can actually embrace REALITY!
I'm pulling for ya!
A fairly understabable video explanation of the multiverse is availble at YouTube: Imagining the Tenth Dimension (annotated). It is very interesting.
Okay, where did the multiverse come from?
It is where; it dosen't come from where.
Rhetorical question.
Not my statement but from the articule.
figured
apology offered
1)why is the nature of multiverse the way it is?
2)why is there a multiverse rather than nothing?
Because
one possibility, if a person either believes in god or leave the possibility open, is that god created the universe in such a way as to challenge people to look at the evidence as they understand it and look at The Word and make a choice as to what they will beleive.
We sometimes have to admit that we just don’t know. That is not to say that oen cannot beleive in god or choose not to. But no one can honestly say that they know that there is no god, only that they believe that there is not.
That's deep.
I prefer "I don't know"
As someone else replied, the designer would be intelligent. I am definitly not a creationist and for me ID is not a hidden backdoor to creationism.
There are many of us ID people that believe that the Universe is designed. It may turn out to be designed by aliens for all I know. It is what it is.
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