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Falls (PA) woman stars in UFO documentary
phillyburbs ^

Posted on 11/25/2008 3:21:02 PM PST by JoeProBono

Denise Lynch Murter’s story began last April when her Yorkie named Alex began growling and awoke her from a deep sleep. “I thought it was an intruder at first,” she said. “I went outside and saw it. It was shaped like a boomerang and had three lights like the headlamps of a car up in the sky.” Murter believes she saw a UFO outside her Falls home. And so does the Discovery Channel. On Monday night the cable channel aired its special “UFOs over Earth” and Murter along with her daughter and husband, Dan, tuned in. The topic wasn’t the only draw for the Murter family, Denise’s story was featured on the hour-long show.

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To: Quix

Oh, and happy thanksgiving as well. I am lifting a glass of scotch to you. You are always a passionate and worthy opponent.


81 posted on 11/27/2008 12:23:56 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

Interesting.

Thanks for your Thanksgiving wishes, BTW. Passionate beliefs I seem to have in abundance, alright. Not much luke-warm about me.

1. Insiders have NOT kept their mouths shut—including my relative. However, the well designed and prosecuted disinformation, ridicule etc. efforts along with selected terminations have limited severely any negative fallout from the government’s perspective.

2. Seems to be an arbitrary statement of blind faith in . . . assumption. “Worm holes” is a postulation I’ve never had much confidence in. Other dimensions and various means to warp space/time to arrive here in a timely fashion; coming from a “spiritual” dimension etc. are all viable alternatives.

3. There evidently has been some serious concerns about panic and chaos amongst the populace. Besides, they’ve developed many clever ways to get lots of money—co-opting the drug trade being one of them. And in terms of power—to have technologies AT LEAST 50 years ahead of anyone else kind of handles that nicely. Then there’s the whole globalist power thing working industriously for global government—some say for 400 years . . . consolodating money and power in the hands of 30-50 or so families world wide . . . nice trick.


82 posted on 11/27/2008 2:03:09 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mysterio

Interesting.

Thanks for your Thanksgiving wishes, BTW. Passionate beliefs I seem to have in abundance, alright. Not much luke-warm about me.

1. Insiders have NOT kept their mouths shut—including my relative. However, the well designed and prosecuted disinformation, ridicule etc. efforts along with selected terminations have limited severely any negative fallout from the government’s perspective.

2. Seems to be an arbitrary statement of blind faith in . . . assumption. “Worm holes” is a postulation I’ve never had much confidence in. Other dimensions and various means to warp space/time to arrive here in a timely fashion; coming from a “spiritual” dimension etc. are all viable alternatives.

3. There evidently has been some serious concerns about panic and chaos amongst the populace. Besides, they’ve developed many clever ways to get lots of money—co-opting the drug trade being one of them. And in terms of power—to have technologies AT LEAST 50 years ahead of anyone else kind of handles that nicely. Then there’s the whole globalist power thing working industriously for global government—some say for 400 years . . . consolidating money and power in the hands of 30-50 or so families world wide . . . nice trick.


83 posted on 11/27/2008 2:03:37 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mysterio

I’m not really sure those points answered my question though.

THOSE items REALLY convince you in your own mind that you know more than the Brazilian Brigadier General about the topic? Still does not seem very logical, to me—even accounting for a trillion tons of bias.

He has a whole intelligence service at his service that you don’t have.

He has lots of in-country connections you evidently don’t have.

He has lots of contacts with peers around the world you evidently don’t have.

Your arbitrary blind faith-in-assumptions position artificially and very unscientifically wipes all that out as though it were nothing.

BUT IT’S NOT nothing!


84 posted on 11/27/2008 2:07:33 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
that you know more than the Brazilian Brigadier General about the topic?

I doubt either of us can know much about space monsters, since none are visiting earth. However, when he produces a piece of space monster ship or the corpse of a space monster, I will reconsider my assessment.

Your arbitrary blind faith-in-assumptions position artificially and very unscientifically wipes all that out as though it were nothing.

Someone should produce a clear, undoctored photo, a piece of space monster ship, or a space monster corpse. If they are truly visiting and crashing ships into earth as often as conspiracy buffs would have us believe, it shouldn't be a daunting task.

Conspiracy theorists would have us believe that space monsters are :

1. Visiting earth regularly (and possibly anducting insane people.)

2. Impossible to photograph clearly, and

2.(b) The governments of every nation on the planet have agreed to cover up all evidence of them, and they manage to somehow arrive on the scene of any accident within minutes. Leaving no evidence behind whatsoever.

Sorry, that's just not likely.
85 posted on 11/27/2008 3:34:40 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

anducting=abducting


86 posted on 11/27/2008 3:35:40 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

How quickly were they on the scene near Needles Calif a few months ago . . . 17 minutes after the crash?

My relative said they had crash recovery teams that could go

INSTANTLY . . . not at the speed of sound or light but

INSTANTLY

to any spot on the globe.

The fuzzy photo stuff has been explained multiple times.

You’ve still not explained away the General’s not knowing as much as you.

You’ve merely RESTATED an arbitrary

BLIND ASSUMPTIONS ASSERTION OF FAITH

that there are no such essentially because you refuse to believe that there are—evidently for some existential discomfort reason.

Again, the research on abductees and probable abductees has determined that AS A GROUP

they are significantly though slightly ABOVE AVERAGE in sanity.

Governments are easily persuaded—particularly if shown powers and multiple means of terminating the office holders forthwith . . . and . . . as has been threatened off and on from the beginning and evidently occasionally carried out—removing whole families from existence.

Few people want to be responsible for all their relatives being killed.


87 posted on 11/27/2008 4:43:15 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
My relative said they had crash recovery teams that could go INSTANTLY . . . not at the speed of sound or light but INSTANTLY to any spot on the globe.

You mean government teams or space monster teams to recover their own?

that there are no such essentially because you refuse to believe that there are—evidently for some existential discomfort reason.

I don't believe aliens are visiting earth. Feel free to produce a piece of ship, a clear photo, or an alien corpse to prove me wrong and instantly become the most famous person in the world.

I recommend you submit your peer reviewed paper to Science or Nature.
88 posted on 11/27/2008 5:56:13 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

1. Government teams.

2. No, peer reviewed articles seem to have not a shred of influence on the kind of BLIND FAITH ASSUMPTION sort of perspective you and other naysayers hereon are so given to asserting so reflexively.

I’ve posted an article or two of 3 available of peer reviewed solid scientific agricultural journals about crop circles.

IIRC off the top of my head,

There were 4-5 different replicatable differences quite scientifically verified between aspects, variable within the circles vs outside the circles. A couple of those were demonstrated in the laboratory.

A) The plant nodes appeared to have been expanded, even burst with very very very short bursts of microwave energy or some such. Laboratory experiments in the lab with microwaves did produce very similar results in experimental plants.

B) The soil within the circles was EXTREMELY DRY—VERY EXTREMELY DRY compared to the soil not in the circles.

C) There was a very fine micro-grain dusting of iron particles on the plants and soil in the circles but not outside the circles.

D) Seeds germinated from plants within the circles

-——1. germinated at a different rate
-——2. were more robust in terms of height, general health
-——3. were more resistant to drought conditions.

compared to seed from plants not in the circles.

None of this very scientifically verifiable; peer reviewed; solid scientific journal article stuff influenced the naysayers hereon 0.0000000000000000001%.

The evidence was clearly that they REFUSED to be influenced BY FACTS . . . AT ALL.

Back to BLIND FAITH in an illogical, irrational assumption . . . evidently based on existentialist fear, discomfort or some such.

Back to an automatic super vulnerability to a TYPE II ERROR needlessly, irrationially.

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

I have been wondering . . . were you, in your younger years, ridiculed because of your interest and beliefs about UFO’s etc.?

That coupled with a fierce switch to concluding it was all hoaxed, could leave one with some intense resentment if not bitterness etc. That could influence one’s blind faith assumptions considerably.


89 posted on 11/27/2008 6:46:30 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
1. Government teams.

Human government teams that can reach any place on the globe the instant a space monster crashes. How?

2. Crop circles are made by humans. Or they are made by aliens who share our system of mathematics. I'm guessing the former.

I have been wondering . . . were you, in your younger years, ridiculed because of your interest and beliefs about UFO’s etc.?

No. I was beaten up because I was a smart kid who was not allowed to fight back. Helped me realize that humans are much more dangerous than aliens.

That coupled with a fierce switch to concluding it was all hoaxed, could leave one with some intense resentment if not bitterness etc. That could influence one’s blind faith assumptions considerably.

Your psychological analysis is one probable scenario. However, it does little to make space monsters real.

Produce a clear, undoctored photo, a piece of ship, or a space monster corpse and I will re-assess.
90 posted on 11/27/2008 7:13:31 PM PST by mysterio
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To: mysterio

You left a number of other possibilities out.

Folks who set themselves up so wholesale for a TYPE II ERROR TRAP tend to do that much above average, in my experience.

Anyway—I do not believe that you will alter your perspective unless and until:

1. you are abducted and remember it in vivid detail

&/or

2. you have a ufo sighting wherein you can touch the craft at close range, if not climb aboard and get off to tell about it.

&/or

3. such are seen routinely on CNN and the nightly news 7/days/week

I believe #3 will occur.

I hope 1 & 2 do not occur.

Blessings,


91 posted on 11/27/2008 7:37:54 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

That sounds wonderful! My husband makes the dressing these days, traditional and yummy, one with oysters.


92 posted on 11/27/2008 8:45:00 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

I understand that version is very delicious . . .

particularly for those who like oysters! LOL.

There are 2 drawbacks from eating out . . . no left-overs and the dressing’s not precisely as one would do it one’s self.

However, no cleanup, either.


93 posted on 11/28/2008 3:25:35 AM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Indeed, though I’d rather do the clean-up and be able to linger all day long.


94 posted on 11/28/2008 9:09:56 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

I love that aspect, too.

However, when one’s ‘family’ is so . . . miniscule . . . with very diverse interests, at that . . .

Starting to think about how to convince the church to host some singles and homeless or some such for such dinners.

Though that sure has it’s +’s & -’s too! LOL.

May not be responding as I prefer due to massive computer problems.

Prayers appreciated.

Rushing along at the college.


95 posted on 12/01/2008 12:06:06 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I agree that the church should plan ahead for the homeless and those who are alone for the Holidays.


96 posted on 12/02/2008 7:09:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Finding the truly selfless souls willing to sacrifice their own family time seems to be too big a challenge in groups calling themselves

“Christian.’

Sad, that.

though family time is squeezed so small alaready, it’s pretty understandable from another perspective.

LUB


97 posted on 12/02/2008 9:27:13 PM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Indeed. Sigh...


98 posted on 12/03/2008 9:00:35 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1505&category=Environment

More Ohio Eyewitnesses See Glowing “Pod” Rise Up to Triangle


99 posted on 12/12/2008 6:20:04 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot

Interesting.

Thx.


100 posted on 12/13/2008 10:14:59 AM PST by Quix (LAWLESS LEADER QUOTES FM 1900: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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