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W legacy: GOP marginalized
2008-10-22 | mike acker

Posted on 10/22/2008 3:56:38 AM PDT by Mike Acker

the legacy of the W administration may well be that the GOP has been marginalized. ;has become the party of the "neocon", -- which is not a good thing.

I will be voting for an independent ticket

the one thing that this election has right is: it is time for change but the change we need is

++ NONE OF THE ABOVE


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To: raybbr

Clinton is campaigning on behalf of Obama, why isn’t Bush campaigning on behalf of McCain-Palin I wonder (not). I heard McCain say he was not Bush at a rally and the GOP crowd went wild, some Bush legacy. Wonder if he said I am not Reagan would the reaction have been the same.


41 posted on 10/22/2008 4:51:43 AM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: dascallie
But for those of you that lay the full blame for the decimated GOP at this man’s feet fall —think again—you are exactly where the media led you. “Bush’s Fault”.

Most conservatives don't "lay the full blame" on Bush. They are realistic. Bush was a mixed bag. Generally, most conservatives admire his tenacity in pursuing an unpopular but necessary war and his vigilance on the War on Terror. Most conservatives are happy with his Supreme Court picks and tax cuts. However, most conservatives are horrified and depressed by his massive, LBJ-like expansion of government. Pointing this out isn't "laying the full blame" on Bush. There's way too much of a "circle the wagons" mindset about Bush.

42 posted on 10/22/2008 4:53:06 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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To: djf

“I wonder what most here would think was more dangerous....”

The problem is the elevation of politicians, including the president, to unreasonable levels of trust.

W is not some god of a greek epic, toiling, unappreciated, for the common good. He is a politician. It is your patriotic duty to be distrustful of all politicians of all stripes, especially when they spend taxpayer money and reduce the freedom of the citizenry.

Too many have elevated W beyond the politician he is. They can’t see the disaster he created for America through his actions and inactions. These folks are easy to spot, as you have found. They’ll figure it out eventually though, they aren’t bad people - they just don’t understand what is now ahead of us as a result of W’s presidency.


43 posted on 10/22/2008 4:54:16 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Mike Acker

I agree that, by conservative standards, W. has been very disappointing.

However, this is no way justifies abandoning the Republican ticket in a year where the Democrat is a dedicated socialist. An Obama presidency is a mortal threat to liberty. Please reconsider.


44 posted on 10/22/2008 5:01:40 AM PDT by NKStarr
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To: xcamel
Really sad, seeing there have been no further attacks, we're winning the war, and there was 6 years of the most robust economy ever in the US, ruined completely by 2 years of democRAT control of congress....

I see it the same way you do. Does this mean Bush is perfect? Of course not but he's not evil the way some people are making him out to be.

He was running against Gore and Kerry. I'm still glad he was there instead of those two idiots.

And it's going to get worse. We ain't seen nothin yet if HUSSEIN and wacko Biden get in there.

45 posted on 10/22/2008 5:02:32 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: bilhosty
I am beginning to think it is over. I blame George W. Bush and the passive do nothing country club Republicans for their failure to lead, to connect with the average person to spend all of their political capitol on tax breaks and ignoring everything else. I blame current leadership for their unresponsiveness and their lack of any creativity or imagination.

It IS over. The mere fact that we are in a battle with a blatant marxist is proof. Kerry and Gore, as reprehensible as they are, were not as marxist as Obama. Obama is being blatant about it and barring some surprise will win. The people of the U.S. are being convinced that govt will fix all of their problems. Just look at Bush's handling of the mortgage mess. Would you call him socialist or capitalist after his handling of the debacle?

46 posted on 10/22/2008 5:04:44 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: RFEngineer

I have pretty much lost my faith in politics.

Politics is not “Here’s what you are supposed to do, and if you don’t you’ll look down the barrel of a gun”

Rather it is “Here’s what I want you to make others do, and if they don’t, and you aim a gun at them, I won’t complain”

Kinda Spoonerish, I guess...


47 posted on 10/22/2008 5:04:46 AM PDT by djf (No milk on the shelves = blood in the streets. So what do we do? Send more money to the bankers!)
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To: dascallie
Your whole post is worthy of a reread by eveyone. The awful truth is that it won't be any different for any other Republican if their ever grace the Oval Office again.

I do not believe that the RATS and their allies in the MSM singled out Bush. It will be the same for ANY Republican.

48 posted on 10/22/2008 5:07:05 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: djf

“Kinda Spoonerish, I guess...”

Political Spoonerism, indeed. I think you’re on to something.


49 posted on 10/22/2008 5:11:33 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

I saw a short blurb on the news the other night - two men meeting, I think near the Rose Garden.

One was Bush.
One was Paulson.

Somebody says “Thanks for seeing me...”
Bush said it.

So where, when, under what political or economic theory, what part of the Universe, which dimension, is the President of the United States supposed to say “Thank you for seeing me” to a banker?

Now if he went to the dry cleaners and they shuffled their work to do his pants, that would be another thing.

But that’s not what happened.


50 posted on 10/22/2008 5:12:36 AM PDT by djf (No milk on the shelves = blood in the streets. So what do we do? Send more money to the bankers!)
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To: GoCards
Well I live in Plano and McCain/Palin is everywhere. I also know that Frisco has huge amounts of new Indian/Pakistani immigrants there.
51 posted on 10/22/2008 5:16:10 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: normy
Tie the opponent to Pelosi/Reid/Obama. Every law passed originates in Congress. We have the most uniformed electorate in terms of understanding how our government runs it boggles the mind. Most voters have a short memory, Dems have controlled both bodies of Congress close to 2 years now. Pelosi made a lot a promises, time to call her on those broken promises.

As far as Bush goes he dropped the ball big time. Spent (His Moderate lackeys in Congress) domestically like crazy. Did not go after dems, instead he became a punching bag. Did not fight back at the bureaucracy and was absorbed in the incompetence of big government etc... 8 years of Bush/Repub control of Congress for some of those years became a very wasted opportunity for those seeking to control government.

If it was not for Obama I would be going third Party. You don't reward failure, but this year Obama poses a threat not only in terms of a hyper-collectivist ideology but a threat to the Constitution itself, especially every Amendment found in the Bill of Rights.

52 posted on 10/22/2008 5:19:44 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: RFEngineer
Good ole Lysander...

Even kooks make sense sometimes!

53 posted on 10/22/2008 5:22:38 AM PDT by djf (The depression commences. Brother, can you spare a dame?)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
There's way too much of a "circle the wagons" mindset about Bush.

I agree with your comment, but I thought you were going to write, "There's way too much of a 'circular firing squad' mindset about Bush."

54 posted on 10/22/2008 5:24:06 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: djf

Crawl back in to your foxhole djf. How many terrorist attacks since 9/11/01? I take it you don’t like tax cuts either. Roberts and Alito? Big disappointments to you I imagine. Don’t worry come 1/20/09 W. will be gone and Obama will make everything better. “Mistrust from other nations, including our allies..”, who are you talking about and what have they ever done for the US?


55 posted on 10/22/2008 5:31:47 AM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: normy

Good to know. Indian/Pakistani immigrants for sure. Everyone of them are in my kinders class! swear to god


56 posted on 10/22/2008 5:37:18 AM PDT by GoCards
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To: rollo tomasi
I agree. Bush is milquetoast as are the Bush's in general. They are get along guys. Tax cuts aside Bush's domestic policies stink.

I believe McCain is old school and his opposition to Bush was probably right.

57 posted on 10/22/2008 5:39:11 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: The_Victor; All
==>W did what was right. Not what was good for the GOP.

that, of course, is a matter of view

I just finished Pat Buchanan's latest book, Day of Reckoning and I am not at all sure I can agree with any part of your comment, ( above)

all votes count

and about the strongest way any of us can say "NONE OF THE ABOVE" is to vote 3d party. This is the real path to change.

Voting "A" means the last 4 years was OK; give me more of the same. It was not OK

Voting for "B" means I want to return to the failed politics of an earlier generation. There is no reason any intelligent person would want to do that

My protest vote will be counted and will appear in the total when we roll it up. and is says none of the above -- it is time for a real change.

58 posted on 10/22/2008 5:40:11 AM PDT by Mike Acker
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To: Mike Acker

I will read your post with a Barny Frank voice.


59 posted on 10/22/2008 5:41:26 AM PDT by right way right (Do not mistake religion for God.)
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To: GoCards

Yeah I bet. I do a lot of work up there. I noticed a couple of the kids in my son’s class that were Paki/Indian aren’t there this year. I assume as jobs dry up they will move on.


60 posted on 10/22/2008 5:41:34 AM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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