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Apple bulldozes Street: $1.26 EPS; Mac sales reach all-time high of 2.6m, 6.9m iPhones
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| 10/21/2008
Posted on 10/21/2008 11:01:56 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Apple today announced financial results for its fiscal 2008 fourth quarter ended September 27, 2008. The Company posted revenue of $7.9 billion and net quarterly profit of $1.14 billion, or $1.26 per diluted share. These results compare to revenue of $6.22 billion and net quarterly profit of $904 million, or $1.01 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin was 34.7 percent, up from 33.6 percent in the year-ago quarter. International sales accounted for 41 percent of the quarters revenue.
MacDailyNews Note: Analysts' consensus estimates for Apple's Q4 08 called for $1.11 EPS, on revenue of $8.05 billion, or 29.4% YOY sales growth. Peter Oppenheimer, Apples CFO, had provided guidance of "about $7.8 billion" and earnings per diluted share of "about $1.00.
In accordance with the subscription accounting treatment required by GAAP, the Company recognizes revenue and cost of goods sold for iPhone and Apple TV over their economic lives. Adjusting GAAP sales and product costs to eliminate the impact of subscription accounting, the corresponding non-GAAP measures (more info) for the quarter are $11.68 billion of Adjusted Sales and $2.44 billion of Adjusted Net Income.
Apple shipped 2,611,000 Macintosh computers during the quarter, representing 21% unit growth and 17% revenue growth over the year-ago quarter. The company sold 11,052,000 iPods during the quarter, representing 8% unit growth and 3% revenue growth over the year-ago quarter. Quarterly iPhone units sold were 6,892,000 compared to 1,119,000 in the year-ago-quarter.
Apple just reported one of the best quarters in its history, with a spectacular performance by the iPhonewe sold more phones than RIM, said Steve Jobs, Apples CEO, in the press release. We dont yet know how this economic downturn will affect Apple. But were armed with the strongest product line in our history, the most talented employees and the best customers in our industry. And $25 billion of cash safely in the bank with zero debt.
Were very pleased to have grown revenue 35 percent and to have generated $9.1 billion in cash in fiscal 2008, said Peter Oppenheimer, Apples CFO. Looking ahead, visibility is low and forecasting is challenging, and as a result we are going to be prudent in predicting the December quarter. We are providing a wide range for our guidance, targeting revenue of $9.0 to $10.0 billion and earnings per diluted share between $1.06 and $1.35.
MacDailyNews Take: Analysts' consensus estimates for Q1 09 call for $1.65 EPS, on revenue of $10.57 billion, or 10.0% YOY sales growth. It's nice to see Apple providing a "wide range" instead of harder guidance, but even the top end of EPS guidance doesn't come close to expectations. We'll see how the market treats this guidance. If history is any guide, it won't be pretty.
Apple will conduct a conference call to discuss the company's results today, Tuesday, October 21, 2008 at 2pm PT/5pm ET.
MacDailyNews will be covering the conference call via live notes at that time. The live coverage will appear at the top of our home pages shortly before 5pm ET.
The link to the QuickTime stream of the conference call is here.
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Live notes from Apples Q408 Conference Call Tuesday, October 21, 2008 - 06:01 PM EDT
- 5pm EDT: Conference Call has begun
- CFO Peter Oppenheimer: Record breaking results on a number of fronts
- Apple posted revenue of $7.9 billion and net quarterly profit of $1.14 billion, or $1.26 per diluted share
- These results compare to revenue of $6.22 billion and net quarterly profit of $904 million, or $1.01 per diluted share, in the year-ago quarter
- Gross margin was 34.7 percent, up from 33.6 percent in the year-ago quarter
- Apple shipped a record 2,611,000 Macs during the quarter, representing 21 percent unit growth and 17 percent revenue growth over the year-ago quarter
- Apple sold 11,052,000 iPods during the quarter - the most of any non-holiday quarter - representing eight percent unit growth and three percent revenue growth over the year-ago quarter
- 13 million total iPhones sold as of September 27, 2008: Quarterly iPhone units sold were 6,892,000 - more than all other quarters since iPhone's release combined: 6.9 million units were sold, exceeding the 6.1 million first-generation iPhone units sold in the prior five quarters combined
- "We are providing a wide range for our guidance, targeting revenue of $9.0 to $10.0 billion and earnings per diluted share between $1.06 and $1.35.
- Apple has already surpassed 10 million iPhones sold in calendar 2008 goal with a full (holiday) quarter remaining
- 30,000 iPhone distribution points worldwide, 3,100 in U.S.
- Apple very enthusiastic about MacBook, MacBook Pro models released last week
- 3-4 weeks of Mac channel inventory at quarter end (9/27/08).
- Apple share of U.S. market over 70% in September (NPD). Apple continues to gain share abroad.
- iTunes Store: Over 65 million customer accounts, 8.5 million song library.
- Apple Retail Stores: 31 new stores; 247 stores total. Over 50% of Macs sold in stores were to customers new to Mac.
- Higher than anticipated mix of foreign (non-U.S.) earnings
- Apple is a debt-free company with $25 billion in cash on hand
- Apple sold more phones in the quarter than RIM (bloodbath).
- Oppenheimer: "Apple headed in holiday season with best product mix ever."
- Special Guest: Apple CEO Steve Jobs: Remarkable things happening at Apple.
- Jobs: Non-GAAP financial result eliminate the impact of subscription accounting (spread impact of iPhone's contribution to income over 2 years)
- Now that iPhone business has grown to 39% of Apple's entire business. That is why Non-GAAP financial results are offered.
- Jobs" "Apple beat RIM." 6.9m iPhones vs. 6.1m RIM phones. RIM is a good company that makes good products. Beating them is remarkable.
- Jobs also reported that, measured by revenue, Apple has become the world's 3rd largest mobile phone supplier:
1. Nokia, $12.7b
2. Samsung ,$5.9b
3. Apple, $4.6b
4. Sony/Ericsson , $4.2b
5. LG, $3.4b
6. Moto, $3.2b
7. RIM, $2.1b
- 200 millionth app will be download from App Store tomorrow (5,500 apps on store in 62 countries around the world)
- Level of quality of new MacBooks, MacBook Pros: unique features, advanced products, greenest products APple has ever offered
- Economy. Jobs, "We are not economists." "We have the best customers in the world." "They are more likely to delay purchases than switch."
- Jobs: "I feel very good about our product lineup as we head into the holiday season and beyond."
- Apple employees make some of the best products int he world: Macs, iPods, iPhones... None of our competitors can deliver products in this class.
- Jobs: We have $25 billion in the bank, the best customers, the best products, and the best employees in the world.
- Jobs: We may get buffeted around in the waves a little bit, but will emerge in good shape when the water's calm.
- October and April are Apple's slowest in the year: Foggy months for us to predict.
- Jobs: This economic downturn may present wonderful opportunities to companies with cash.
- Oppenheimer: Aluminum unibody enclosures for MacBook family will initially have higher costs; volume will bring down the cost to Apple over time
- Jobs on Mac pricing: The downturn is not creatign a market of cheaper computers. There are parts of that market that we choose not to play in. We are actually price competitive in the parts of the market in which we choose to participate. I think there are a tremendous amount of customers who would like and can afford to buy Apple products. We are not tremendously worried.
- Jobs: Netbooks are a nascent category. iPhone is a pretty good solution for that category "and it fits in your pocket." We have some pretty good ideas if that category takes off.
- Oppenheimer: 3-4 weeks Mac channel inventory, 4-6 weeks iPod, less than 6 weeks for 44 iPhone countries; about 2 million iPhones in total channel inventory. Oppenheimer: "We feel this amount of inventory is about right."
- U.S. K-12 education sales down about 7% due to budget constraints.
- Apple saw slowing of notebooks ahead of new MacBook family; saw "considerable rebound with release of new MacBook family.
- Jobs: "Not likely" that I'll be special guest regularly on these conference calls.
- Jobs on iPhone wannabes: "We are way out ahead of everybody and, with the most talented people in the world, we'll stay that way. We are committed to making iPhone the best value for customers."
- Apple expanded iPhone sales from 6 to 51 countries.
- Jobs: "We're just happy to beat them [RIM] on a number to number basis."
- Oppenheimer: We will expand into over 70 total countries by the end of the year. "We are confident that year-over-year our sales will be up significantly."
- Oppenheimer: "We are delivering state-of-the-art products at prices points that our competitors cannot match."
- Jobs asked about acquiring companies: "I think there are going to be some significant opportunities."
- Jobs: "We want to deliver an increasing level of value to our customers. We choose not to serve some customers. We don't know how to make a $500 computer that's not a piece of junk and our DNA will not allow us to ship products like that."
- Peter Oppenheimer and Tim Cook virtually ignored due to Jobs' surprise presence on call.
- Jobs: "Apple TV is still a hobby with us. I continue to believe it will be a hobby in 2009."
- Cook on supply: Still filling channel with iPods; iPhone at right level of channel inventory; Macs show significant backlog of new products: Apple confident that Apple can produce "a lot," but if it's enough he does not know.
- Jobs: "Babe Ruth had only one home run. He just kept hitting it over and over again." As software starts to become the differentiating technology of the [smartphone] product category. Hundreds of different hardware configurations are not going to be attractive to developers. MDN Note: Think Google Android, Windows Mobile, etc.
- End of conference call.
To: Swordmaker
Glad I bought some AAPL calls this am. See the after hours trading?
To: 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AmericanGirlRising; aristotleman; ...
Apple blows through expectations on last quarter's expectations. Some quarterly state:
- 2.612 million Macs,
- 11 million iPods,
- 6.9 million iPhones during the quarter.
- $7.9 Billion Revenues for the quarter,
- $1.14 billion profit
- Gross margin up to 34.7% from 33.6% a year ago.
Apple topped over 10,000,000 iPhones in 2008 with 1 complete quarter yet to go.
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posted on
10/21/2008 11:09:59 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
To: RS
Your question has now been answered... yes, Apple WILL indeed sell more than 10,000,000 iPhones in 2008 and in fact will sell far more than 1% of the market.
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posted on
10/21/2008 11:14:10 PM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
To: hinckley buzzard
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posted on
10/21/2008 11:16:03 PM PDT
by
BigFinn
(Isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
To: Swordmaker
RIM has become the next victim being crushed beneath the treads of the Apple iPod/iPhone Juggernaut.
Which is good, because their products are in fact crap. :P
Nokia and Samsung are now in the unenviable position of needing to innovate or die in the smartphone space.
And Ballmer has the answer to his question - Who’s going to buy a $500 smartphone? Answer: Apparently a lot of people - just not if it runs Palm, WindowsMobile, or RIM.
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posted on
10/21/2008 11:25:46 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Which is good, because their products are in fact crap.
After using Macs and Apple products for almost 24 years, I didn't know that. My company offers cross platform software to two distinct markets. One is 79% Mac and the other is almost all Windows. Guess which platform costs me more money to support. If you said Windows, you are right.
We have remote software where we can see our clients machines. Windows is a nightmare. I see the difference every day.
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posted on
10/21/2008 11:55:49 PM PDT
by
101st
To: 101st
The products that are crap are RIMs, not Apple’s. Thought I’d made that clear. :P
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posted on
10/22/2008 1:11:29 AM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Swordmaker
AAPL way down from 24 days ago. 30% off. Maybe you’ll get nice dividends
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posted on
10/22/2008 4:19:57 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
To: dennisw
And MSFT is down only about 18 percent since Sept. 26. Probably just a coincidence.
Of course MSFT has lost about a third of its value since the first of the year.
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posted on
10/22/2008 6:28:27 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
(Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
To: dennisw
AAPL way down from 24 days ago. 30% off. Maybe youll get nice dividends And so are many stocks.
If you really want it to look bad, it's down 50% from six months ago.
Look at is a bargain. Some analysts have not backed off of their target prices on AAPL of $250 or there abouts.
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posted on
10/22/2008 8:19:18 AM PDT
by
Swordmaker
(Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
To: Swordmaker
This quarter included the lucrative months of send your kid off to college with a new computer. :) And Apple’s part of the pie is impressive.
To: dennisw
Dell is down over 50% from its 30 day high. Your point being....
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posted on
10/22/2008 12:57:36 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Swordmaker
Thanks for the !
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posted on
10/22/2008 1:35:42 PM PDT
by
vox_freedom
(G K Chesterton: "If there were no God, there would be no atheists.")
To: Spktyr
I don’t buy Dell but you buy Apple. I have never bought a Dell but I have bought HP products.
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posted on
10/22/2008 3:39:00 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
To: Spktyr
Hey Microsoft is your enemy. How much did it go down compared to Apple?
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posted on
10/22/2008 5:35:09 PM PDT
by
dennisw
(Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
To: dennisw
HP is also down almost 50% in the last month.
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posted on
10/22/2008 6:10:50 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: dennisw
AAPL close today: 96.87
MSFT close today: 21.53
Also, YTD, Apple’s stock has been pretty stable. Microsoft’s been in a dive.
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posted on
10/22/2008 6:38:58 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: dennisw
MSFT, 1YR:
AAPL, YTD:
One shows a downward spiral, the other shows a generally stable price.
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posted on
10/22/2008 6:42:09 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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posted on
10/22/2008 6:43:23 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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