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Verizon CEO to Steve Jobs: Drop Dead
Counter Notions ^ | SAT, JUN 28, 08

Posted on 06/29/2008 8:35:45 PM PDT by Swordmaker

In an interview with The Financial Times yesterday, Verizon CEO Ivan Seidenberg had this to say when asked about the competition posed by Apple’s iPhone:

“It’s very cool. And Steve Jobs eventually will get old… I like our chances.”

That’s got to be one of the most indelicate utterances by one CEO regarding another.

Mr. Seidenberg is about a decade older than Mr. Jobs, so he can’t possibly be referring to his age with the most unfortunate “Steve Jobs eventually will get old” phrase. He must be referring to Mr. Job’s frail appearance at the Apple WWDC in June.

Apple said Mr. Jobs was suffering from a “common bug” but various pundits and AAPL shorters claimed it was due to his recent brush with pancreatic cancer. Nobody outside of his immediate circle really knows what may or may not be medically worrisome with Mr. Jobs, but why would a competitor’s CEO feel the need to raise it so brazenly?

This chart covering the period from Mr. Jobs’ cancer diagnosis in October 2003 to the present might give a clue (red: Apple, blue: Verizon):

What’s peculiar is that Apple doesn’t directly compete with Verizon: the former is the maker of the iPhone, the latter is a carrier. The competitor Verizon should actually be worried about is AT&T, Apple’s iPhone carrier partner in the U.S.

What should really concern Verizon’s board, however, is why 18 months after the announcement of the iPhone, the Verizon camp hasn’t been able to come up with any remotely credible “iPhone-killer”? They should ask their CEO what other concrete plans he might have to compete with the iPhone other than hoping that Apple’s CEO drops out of the picture due to “old age.” How does the $20.3 million-a-year CEO of a $100 billion company like Verizon display so openly its inability to compete on innovation by placing its “chances” on the demise of another CEO?

Can you imagine another CEO, even such an old adversary like Bill Gates (or even Steve Ballmer, not lacking tackiness otherwise), would ever make such an ill-wishing statement? For shame. The least Mr. Seidenberg can do is to apologize to Mr. Jobs pronto.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; microsoftfanboys; telecom; verizon
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To: Golden Eagle

Since you’ve posted again in this thread and then moved onto another to attack me, I take it that you refuse to retract your incorrect statement about me.

Then we have it, yet another proven lie by you. I think I’ll start that list with this one, working backwards. Everything will of course be documented with links to the source posts.


81 posted on 07/01/2008 4:42:53 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle; antiRepublicrat

Why don’t you two just get a room and compare your shlong lengths in private?


82 posted on 07/01/2008 4:47:20 PM PDT by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

What are you whining about now? Go ahead and create your little links, but nothing can compare to the whoppers you’ve made up defending criminal Russian hackers, including where you falsely claimed the US DoD was using software written by Russian hackers as some sort of attempted defense for their actions.

Nothing is sacred to you, not only do you constantly attack Christians and the Bible, as you’ve been doing on other threads today, you’re been more than willing to make up lies about the US DoD to defend criminal Russians. Lies you’ve even admitted to, after months of posting them. Your excuse? It was quote “fun”, I have the links still of course if you want to try to deny it. And the fact you get your thrills of your evil lies is all anyone needs to know about you pal.


83 posted on 07/01/2008 4:56:54 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle

As has been shown, the hacker thing was a test of your knowledge, which you failed miserably, and which I myself revealed to you. This is nothing compared to your blatant lies and proven attempts at slander using my posts out of their immediate context which you almost never retract when caught, such as now.

It’s funny how you get all riled up when caught in a lie, how a correction of your misinformation often results in vile personal attacks usually accompanied by even more lies. And I get to see it happen over and over and over on this board.


84 posted on 07/01/2008 5:09:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: LexBaird

Because troll whacking is fun?


85 posted on 07/01/2008 5:10:54 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: LexBaird

Yeah it’s not worth my time to kick this loser around any more, he’s taken a pummeling on other threads today too. He’ll do his little victory dance now and go back to his motormouth propoganda just so you know.


86 posted on 07/01/2008 5:14:19 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle

It’s almost amusing how you get caught red-handed in a lie and hypocrisy, yet claim victory.


87 posted on 07/02/2008 8:57:35 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker

Verizon is the last to get new BlackBerry models, also.


88 posted on 07/02/2008 9:06:39 AM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts, the Gay State. Once leader of the American Revolution, now leading its demise.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Like usual, it was a clear, easy victory over your circle talk BS. All smartphones didn’t “suck” before the iphone, despite your laughable claim. No surprise you were wrong either, since you don’t even have a cell phone of any kind LOL . But rather than admit you got smoked you start bringing up other threads where you got smoked as a diversion. When that didn’t work you tried to claim most of your posts aren’t on Apple threads while trying to blame me for it anyway. You still got nowhere so are balling some more now.

What specific topic are you claiming you post more on? Your attacks on Christians? Possibly, what do you want, a medal? What is your CLAIMED purpose in continually attacking Christians and our faith here anyway? I understand your devotion to technology because without a God you have nothing else to worship but man and his inventions, but why do you claim you feel the need to constantly attack Christians and our beliefs as well? It better be a good reason too since you’re so committed to it.


89 posted on 07/02/2008 10:56:34 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle
All smartphones didn’t “suck” before the iphone

"Suck" is an opinion. You may disagree, but that doesn't make either of us right or wrong. You liked the pre-iPhone smartphones, I didn't. It's as simple as that.

you start bringing up other threads where you got smoked as a diversion

You mean that last thread where I caught you in a blatant lie and exposed your ignorance, such ignorance being corroborated by another FReeper?

When that didn’t work you tried to claim most of your posts aren’t on Apple threads while trying to blame me for it anyway.

And I did the count: 16%, counting your trolling inflation over the last month, not even restricted to your claimed "Apple computer" threads (I included an iPhone thread) to leave you no weasel room. You can't logically argue with hard facts that expose your lie.

What is your CLAIMED purpose in continually attacking Christians and our faith here anyway?

Funny, I can go back and show a huge number of posts supporting Christians and their right to practice their faith and speak out against what they consider sinful. In fact, you can find such posts on this very day.

You know I defend Christians, because just yesterday you yet again took a post of mine out of context, posting the "agree with the text from the Al Jazeera guy" part, but leaving out the very next sentence where I critize Muslims for not allowing Christians freedom of worship or evangelism in their countries.

In the Jindal thread where I disagree with the mixing of religion and science, you will see me speaking out against those who think science can disprove religion, and defend a Christian when he was told his belief system is wrong. Also notice the unprovoked personal attack against me by a Christian.

You are so far out of line with this claim it's absurd, and easily proven so.

90 posted on 07/02/2008 12:42:00 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Don’t try to lie your way out of this, I’ve seen threads where people were criticising Muslims and you come along and say “Christians did just as bad or worse back in blah blah blah.” There’s countless examples in your history here of you dennegrating Christians, what is your purpose in constantly doing so? Quit lying and saying you never have either, as your history is full of it. Why? What is your intented purpose in constantly arguing with us that God doesn’t exist just because you’ve personally chosen to turn your back on Him? Ping me to any one of the number of threads you’ve been arguing with Christians in lately since it has little relevance to this thread other than your despicable character.


91 posted on 07/02/2008 12:54:31 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle
Ping me to any one of the number of threads you’ve been arguing with Christians in lately

You know what they are because you have been checking up on my posts.

since it has little relevance to this thread

That's your hypocrisy kicking in again. You started this off-topic discussion despite accusing me of such earlier, and now you complain that it's off topic. You're incredible.

So you're willing to let a proven lie stand? You don't care that anytime you shout "lie" I will be able to bring out documented evidence of your multiple proven lies and false witness (Exodus 20:16) for everyone to see? And you probably claim to be the moral person here because you say you're Christian.

92 posted on 07/02/2008 1:42:38 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I already said tell us what specific topic you post more about, since your little diversion is all you have to stand on. But if we’re going to change the subject from your original ignorant claims the bigger question you’re still runing from is why do you fell the need to dennegrate Christians and our beliefs constantly? What is so special in your opinion about being an atheist like you that we’re missing out on? Where’s some stats that God-haters are better members of society, and that those that refuse the existense of God are less likely to be criminals? You’re so full of yourself and think you’re smarter than God, so tell us why we should all follow your evil example. If you think you can, but so far all we see are you hiding under the bed since you have no respectable answer for your actions.


93 posted on 07/02/2008 2:01:39 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle
I already said tell us what specific topic you post more about

What matters here is your blatant lie about what topic I post most about. What matters here is your lie about me siding with "God-haters" since I always speak out against such people. What matters is that you portray my discussions with others on theology and science as denigrations of Christians.

Take your hate and your lies and go somewhere else. Or stay here and sin no more, especially remembering the part about bearing false witness, a sin you continually commit without remorse. I don't think that bears well for you in your Judgment. Or are you just a Christian in name only so you get to wave around an air of supposed moral superiority? You certainly don't practice it.

94 posted on 07/02/2008 2:27:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I knew you wouldn’t answer it, but you’ll be attacking Christians again in no time without ever being able to give us a reason for your despicable actions. The devil makes you do it, is the answer you’re unable to admit, but expect the question again.


95 posted on 07/02/2008 2:40:14 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle

Then is it the Devil who makes you a compulsive liar, hypocrite and sinner? Do you even take personal responsibility for those proven actions? Of course you won’t respond rationally to this, as you’ve been evading answering for your lies and hypocrisy all along.

I would really like to know what drives this sick pathology of yours.


96 posted on 07/02/2008 3:04:08 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Nothing wrong with me, a strong conservative man that puts God and Country above all else except tending to my own family’s needs. Meanwhile you come to a conservative board to attack God and constantly put other countries ahead of ours, then lie about it all when exposed. That’s “sick pathology” if there ever was such a thing.


97 posted on 07/02/2008 3:38:32 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: Golden Eagle
Nothing wrong with me, a strong conservative man that puts God and Country above all else

Doesn't you constantly sinning without remorse or atonement kind of run counter to this claim? Going back, I have several proven instances of you committing the sin of false witness against me. Or are you a Muslim who believes it isn't a sin if it's committed against a non-believer?

and constantly put other countries ahead of ours

You might want to shut up unless you've carried arms in defense of your country.

98 posted on 07/02/2008 3:44:29 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

What is supposedly the sin I’ve done to you here? That I said you posted more on Apple threads than others is apparently what you’re still crying about, yet I haven’t seen any evidence you’ve provided I wasn’t right. How were you harmed, and why are you still whining about it? It’s just part of your little distraction game you always play, where you try to swerve the discussion off the pertinent items and far out into left field where you might twist something in your favor.

Back to the questions of actual importance, why do you spend so much time attacking Christians and our beliefs? Why do you think we should all disavow God and follow your unholy footsetps to hell, is it because we’re not as smart as you that we don’t? What great benefits will come to us by disavowing God, and why haven’t we done it yet when we have an example such as you trying to show us the way? Considering how much time you spend trying to push people away from God you sure are having a hard time explaining why you do it.


99 posted on 07/02/2008 4:11:14 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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To: antiRepublicrat

For the record, here’s a few snips of the evil filth you’ve been slinging here in just the last couple of weeks. Go back further and it’s easy to find worse, you represent your ilk from DU well:

Sorry, I forgot how nasty some Christians can be in response to perceived threats to their dogma.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037444/posts?page=344#344

As is usual for apologists you are really reaching to explain away problems in the Bible.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037444/posts?page=229#229

What you’re doing to the Bible is the equivalent of looking at a cloud and seeing a fluffy bunny. It is itself born suspect.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037444/posts?page=412#412

The religious often think they’re superior and can apply their beliefs to all others. Both are annoying to me because of their agenda to make others believe or act as they do, by force of logic, law, or violence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:antirepublicrat/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

This is the champion of Intelligent Design, a bunch of liars.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037444/posts?page=181#181

If you actually have a functioning brain, you realize the Bible is not inerrant and some reason such as rounding or lack of knowledge caused the authors to write 10 and 30.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2037444/posts?page=324#324

It reminds me of the old Carlin skit, thank God for every touchdown, but you never hear “Jesus made me fumble on the line of scrimmage.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2033923/posts?page=13#13


100 posted on 07/02/2008 4:48:48 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (In God We Trust)
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