Posted on 06/11/2008 6:25:31 PM PDT by Neville72
We already know that Obama is not QUALIFIED to be the President, we now know that he is not ELIGIBLE to be President under American law.
This is a great comment to a post over at Michelle Malkin’s blog:
On June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am, legendx3 said:
Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.
*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…
DAWG! This guy really is about flaunting his illegal behavior in all of our faces, isn’t he?
All Barek has to do is release his birth certificate. He lacks good judgement and transpirancy if everything is KOSHER with his birth certificate.
Bump
I’ll chime in.
As best I understand it, if Obama was born in Kenya to a Kenyan father and an American mother, he WOULD definitely NOT be a natural born citizen of the U.S. and therefore not eligible to be POTUS.
There’s only one real reason to keep his birth certificate hidden.
His name doesn’t really matter with most people
His religion isn’t a concern even if he was once a Muslim since he’s converted to Chrisitianity(or some weird, bastardized version of it)
There are only two possible things that have any real impact on his candidacy,
(1)his place of birth
(2)whether or not he even has a U.S. birth certificate
Things I have wondered are
1) Actual Name at birth
2) Does it state that his Father was Arab
As I understand it, Hawaii is a state, was a territory, and if Obamalamadingdong isn’t a citizen, then what about all the rest of the population of Hawaii living at that time up to the present? Are they to be denied citizenship just so we can stretch to exclude BHO? I don’t like Obamalamadingdong one bit, but he can be defeated normally, not by nit-pickery. Trying to do that is a waste of time. He needs to be hammered on inexperience, cluelessness, lack of substance,friends, associates, and so on.
Aye.
While on the topic (sort of), where is this Michelle tape? IF it exists, when will we see it?
IF Hillary has it, before Denver.
IF McCain has it, October surprise.
IF alphabet networks have it, never.
I wish we had a media with an iota of integrity.
No anchor babies in those days?
That is the problem, you don't understand it. Your conclusion is wrong. 100% wrong. Do you even read your own thread?
Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
Even if Obama was born outside the U.S., this clause makes him a natural born citizen. Note that it's clause (d) which is before clause (g) which has the age requirements.
But it is irrelevent because he wasn't born in Kenya. You can't just make crap up!
(g) doesn’t apply to Hawaii as a territory.
Since his birth cert has not been made public I would say you are spouting facts not in evidence.
I noticed Obama’s mother’s plane ticket to Kenya and back (to give birth outside of Hawaii) has not been made public either.
How about this then. Since Reagan was born in Guatemala to migrant workers, he shouldn’t have been President.
No it doesn't. But it does apply to all those who are claiming that Obama wasn't actually born in Hawaii but was instead born in Kenya. In that case, under paragraph g he's still a natural born citizen.
Quite possibly so.
Yes, but according to the laws at the time, he is a naturalized citizen, not a natural born citizen. No diff except for eligibility to be President or VP.
That’s the problem with so many people. Did you read what the actual law at the time said, or are yu just going on what you “know”? If his Mom wasn’t a US citizen for 5 years, then under the actual laws at the time, he is a naturalized citizen, not a natural born citizen. Sheesh. No diff except for elgibilty to be pres or vice pres.
READ THE F###ING LAW AS IT WAS WRITTEN AT THE TIME.
Now, will this actually see the light of day or matter? Of course not, because laws don’t apply to Donks.
Uh, his Mom was a natural born U.S. citizen. She was a citizen from the time she was born.
We have friends, mother US citizen, father Canadian. Both of their kids were born in Kenya and have US citizenship, but I'm not sure of the process used to obtain it. Mother was over 21, whereas Obama’s mother was not.
Obama may be playing games by refusing to show his birth certificate, or he just may be trying to uphold the great Democratic Party tradition of withholding important documents from the public. (See Bill Clinton's medical records, Kerry's military records, etc)
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