Posted on 06/11/2008 6:25:31 PM PDT by Neville72
All Barek has to do is release his birth certificate. He lacks good judgement and transpirancy if everything is KOSHER with his birth certificate.
Bump
I’ll chime in.
As best I understand it, if Obama was born in Kenya to a Kenyan father and an American mother, he WOULD definitely NOT be a natural born citizen of the U.S. and therefore not eligible to be POTUS.
There’s only one real reason to keep his birth certificate hidden.
His name doesn’t really matter with most people
His religion isn’t a concern even if he was once a Muslim since he’s converted to Chrisitianity(or some weird, bastardized version of it)
There are only two possible things that have any real impact on his candidacy,
(1)his place of birth
(2)whether or not he even has a U.S. birth certificate
Things I have wondered are
1) Actual Name at birth
2) Does it state that his Father was Arab
As I understand it, Hawaii is a state, was a territory, and if Obamalamadingdong isn’t a citizen, then what about all the rest of the population of Hawaii living at that time up to the present? Are they to be denied citizenship just so we can stretch to exclude BHO? I don’t like Obamalamadingdong one bit, but he can be defeated normally, not by nit-pickery. Trying to do that is a waste of time. He needs to be hammered on inexperience, cluelessness, lack of substance,friends, associates, and so on.
Aye.
While on the topic (sort of), where is this Michelle tape? IF it exists, when will we see it?
IF Hillary has it, before Denver.
IF McCain has it, October surprise.
IF alphabet networks have it, never.
I wish we had a media with an iota of integrity.
No anchor babies in those days?
That is the problem, you don't understand it. Your conclusion is wrong. 100% wrong. Do you even read your own thread?
Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:
(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;
Even if Obama was born outside the U.S., this clause makes him a natural born citizen. Note that it's clause (d) which is before clause (g) which has the age requirements.
But it is irrelevent because he wasn't born in Kenya. You can't just make crap up!
(g) doesn’t apply to Hawaii as a territory.
Since his birth cert has not been made public I would say you are spouting facts not in evidence.
I noticed Obama’s mother’s plane ticket to Kenya and back (to give birth outside of Hawaii) has not been made public either.
How about this then. Since Reagan was born in Guatemala to migrant workers, he shouldn’t have been President.
No it doesn't. But it does apply to all those who are claiming that Obama wasn't actually born in Hawaii but was instead born in Kenya. In that case, under paragraph g he's still a natural born citizen.
Quite possibly so.
Yes, but according to the laws at the time, he is a naturalized citizen, not a natural born citizen. No diff except for eligibility to be President or VP.
That’s the problem with so many people. Did you read what the actual law at the time said, or are yu just going on what you “know”? If his Mom wasn’t a US citizen for 5 years, then under the actual laws at the time, he is a naturalized citizen, not a natural born citizen. Sheesh. No diff except for elgibilty to be pres or vice pres.
READ THE F###ING LAW AS IT WAS WRITTEN AT THE TIME.
Now, will this actually see the light of day or matter? Of course not, because laws don’t apply to Donks.
Uh, his Mom was a natural born U.S. citizen. She was a citizen from the time she was born.
We have friends, mother US citizen, father Canadian. Both of their kids were born in Kenya and have US citizenship, but I'm not sure of the process used to obtain it. Mother was over 21, whereas Obama’s mother was not.
Obama may be playing games by refusing to show his birth certificate, or he just may be trying to uphold the great Democratic Party tradition of withholding important documents from the public. (See Bill Clinton's medical records, Kerry's military records, etc)
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