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Black Man Proud Of Confederate Flag
News Channel 9 Chattanooga ^ | March 12, 2008 | John Pless

Posted on 03/21/2008 1:43:24 PM PDT by cowboyway

Many heads turned in Ringgold Wednesday when they saw an African-American man dressed in a Confederate soldier's uniform, carrying a Confederate flag.

It wasn't a joke. H.K. Edgerton came to Ringgold to make a bold statement - he opposes city leader's removing the Confederate flag from the city's flag pole.

Edgerton says the Confederate flag is misunderstood, feared and hated because people are trying to be politically correct - which he says desecrates the honor and real meaning of the Civil War era emblem.

"I'm here because your town council climbed into bed with all the politically correct folks who are practicing social, cultural genocide here in the south land of America," Edgerton said.

Edgerton is marching against that cultural genocide as he calls it, and is getting a warm welcome from people in Ringgold who support his fight for the Confederate flag.

Jim Caldwell meet Edgerton carrying the flag and said "it's history, part of history and it don't need to be swept under the rug."

Edgerton is from Asheville, North Carolina, where he's also the immediate past president of the N.A.A.C.P. there. His visit to Ringgold marks the five-year anniversary of the same march he made from Asheville to Austin Texas - 20 miles a day, six days a week.

He says he has no respect for modern day civil rights activists who as he puts it, trash the Confederate flag.

"Just pointing to those scally-wags like Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton, who climbed into bed with these folks to increase their coffers to continue tainting and disturbing history," Edgerton said.

Two years ago many people packed Ringgold's city hall to protest the move by city leaders to get rid of the Confederate flag. It flies no more on the town poles.

Edgerton says many people don't understand that black men, alongside whites, fought for the Confederacy and the principals it was founded on.

"So here I am, trying to bring an understanding that there was folks who look like me who earned a place of honor and dignity here under this flag. And this flag is just as much for folks who look like me as any white man in the south land of America," Edgerton said.


TOPICS: Education; History; Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: black; confederate; dixie; edgerton; flag; politicalcorrectness
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To: cowboyway
you could very well be correct.

free dixie,sw

81 posted on 03/25/2008 7:41:09 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: PalmettoMason
as HK is a close friend of mine (he would say BROTHER OF MINE i believe. we are close.), i can tell you that he would WELCOME you to accompany him on his task.

free dixie,sw

82 posted on 03/25/2008 7:43:46 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: beckysueb
more to the point, "lincoln, the TYRANT" hated/feared ALL "persons of colour", Roman Catholics, Jews, Asians, Latinos & "muddy-coloured people" (mixed-bloods like ME for instance).

lincoln said that he was willing to make chattel slavery PERMANENT by amending the Constitution to PROTECT "the peculiar institution"!!! (bet they didn't tell you THAT in school!)

lincoln & wee willie klintoon, as POTUS were about the same variety = they would SAY/DO ANTHING no matter how amoral to "get ahead".

free dixie,sw

83 posted on 03/25/2008 7:47:49 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
sadly, you KNOW the TRUTH, but as The Minister of DAMNyankee (LEFTIST/EXTREMIST) PROPAGANDA, you choose to NOT tell it.

sadly (for YOU & the extremist/arrogant unionists), hardly anyone believes your NONSENSE & arrogant UN-truthfulness.

free dixie,sw

84 posted on 03/25/2008 7:53:10 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Don’t be a moron swattie...


85 posted on 03/25/2008 8:19:03 PM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Lincolns own words were irrelevant? So he didn’t really mean what he wrote? And you know this how?


86 posted on 03/25/2008 8:53:30 PM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: Liberty Valance

I watched the same documentary. Very interesting.


87 posted on 03/25/2008 8:57:37 PM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: swmobuffalo

Oofta! LOL


88 posted on 03/25/2008 8:58:22 PM PDT by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: beckysueb

“Oofta! LOL”

Apparently it makes NS happy to swat our hands when we dare to differ with him! You can check any thread that deals with things Southern and find revisionist history, sad.


89 posted on 03/25/2008 11:23:03 PM PDT by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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To: beckysueb
Lincolns own words were irrelevant? So he didn’t really mean what he wrote? And you know this how?

No I mean that that quote is irrelevant towards you claim that the Emancipation Proclamation was an afterthought. The claim is made time and again that the Civil War wasn't fought over slavery, and from the Northern perspective that is very true. Lincoln's goal was preserving the Union and defeating the Southern rebellion, and the Emanciption Proclamation was one tool he used to achieve that.

90 posted on 03/26/2008 3:56:59 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: swmobuffalo
You can check any thread that deals with things Southern and find revisionist history, sad.

So true. Which is why I and my compatriots are here - to combat your myths and your revisionism with the truth.

91 posted on 03/26/2008 3:58:12 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; beckysueb
and the Emanciption Proclamation was one tool he used to achieve that.

Tool. Perfect description for the EP and Lincoln's purpose for it and exactly the part of history that we Southrons would like to have clarified.

Lincoln has been worshiped as the Great Emancipator when if fact he was just a union preservationist and a slick politician. The Emancipation Proclamation was just a slick tool.

If today's blacks could find a wormhole in time and travel back to see the real Lincoln in action, circa 1861-1863 (not the one they've been taught via the public school propagandists), they would have a much different opinion of their Great Emancipator.

92 posted on 03/26/2008 6:50:33 AM PDT by cowboyway (Did I say that out loud?)
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To: cowboyway
Tool. Perfect description for the EP and Lincoln's purpose for it and exactly the part of history that we Southrons would like to have clarified.

What else was it? Removing slave labor helped to defeat the rebellion. Emancipated slaves helped man the Union army. There were over 200,000 black Union soldiers in the Civil War, they had to come from someplace. They didn't come from the North, even though its pre-rebellion free black population was much larger than the South's it still wasn't large enough to provide that many soldiers. Many, perhaps the majority were slaves freed by the Emancipation Proclamation.

Lincoln has been worshiped as the Great Emancipator when if fact he was just a union preservationist and a slick politician. The Emancipation Proclamation was just a slick tool.

Slick enough to get the 13th Amendment through Congress and sent to the states. Lincoln more than any other single person can claim credit for that, so in the end he was the Great Emancipator after all.

If today's blacks could find a wormhole in time and travel back to see the real Lincoln in action, circa 1861-1863 (not the one they've been taught via the public school propagandists), they would have a much different opinion of their Great Emancipator.

Perhaps, if they judge him by today's standards as you do. But judge him against the standards of the time and compare him to any other leader of the period, especially the Southern ones, and Lincoln comes out looking pretty good. As men of the period like Frederick Douglass found.

93 posted on 03/26/2008 7:04:00 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur; beckysueb; stand watie
Slick enough to get the 13th Amendment through Congress and sent to the states.

Slick enough to centralize the government. Slick enough to nullify states rights.

(Since you like 'slick' politicians so much you must be a real fan of Bill Clinton.)

But judge him against the standards of the time and compare him to any other leader of the period, especially the Southern ones, and Lincoln comes out looking pretty good.

You've been listening to too many Barack Obama speeches. That sentence sounds like it could have come straight out of Barack's Rev. Wright speech.

Besides, why should we judge disHonest Abe against the 'standards of his time' when you and your posse refuse to judge the South with the same yardstick?

Typical yankee; wants his cake and eat it too.

In summary, Lincoln was a racist, slick politician. He was slick enough to get the 13th Amendment radified and slick enough nullify the 9th and 10th Amendments. What a great man!! /sarc

Not only did the war lay the foundation for eventual nullification or weakening of basic constitutional protections against central government abuses, but it also laid to rest the great principle enunciated in the Declaration of Independence that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." The Real Lincoln contains irrefutable evidence that a more appropriate title for Abraham Lincoln is not the Great Emancipator, but the Great Centralizer.----Walter E. Williams

94 posted on 03/26/2008 8:52:39 AM PDT by cowboyway (Did I say that out loud?)
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To: cowboyway
Slick enough to centralize the government. Slick enough to nullify states rights.

Claiming that is one thing. Showing how exactly was supposed to have done that is another.

(Since you like 'slick' politicians so much you must be a real fan of Bill Clinton.)

No, Clinton is very much a Southern politician. Never thought much of them.

You've been listening to too many Barack Obama speeches. That sentence sounds like it could have come straight out of Barack's Rev. Wright speech.

Well the easiest way to show it to be wrong is to provide some quotes from Southern leaders showing that their views of blacks were more enlightened than Lincoln's. A quote, for example, showing that they believed slavery should be ended. Or a quote showing that they believed blacks to be their equal. Or one showing blacks deserved any of the same rights as white men. Anything showing that would prove me wrong, wouldn't it?

Besides, why should we judge disHonest Abe against the 'standards of his time' when you and your posse refuse to judge the South with the same yardstick?

And show me where I don't.

-- Walter E. Williams

Oh God, are you still clinging to that Walter Williams POS? Errors and all?

95 posted on 03/26/2008 9:02:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: cowboyway
you are 100% correct.

"lincoln, the TYRANT" & "wee willie klintoon" were TWO of a BAD kind, who would DO/SAY anything for more $$$$$$$ and/or POWER.

BOTH would have passed out official "White House recipes" for cooking people, if they thought that 3% of the voters might enjoy cannibalism.

free dixie,sw

96 posted on 03/26/2008 9:09:33 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
inasmuch as you have 1/100th or LESS of Dr. Williams academic credentials/intellect, i'd think that you'd "close your trap" about him.

free dixie,sw

97 posted on 03/26/2008 9:11:57 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
inasmuch as you have 1/100th or LESS of Dr. Williams academic credentials/intellect, i'd think that you'd "close your trap" about him.

Based on all your self-inflated claims you've made over the years I probably have 1/100th or LESS of your academic credentials/intellect. Assuming your claims are true, of course. I'll let the forum choose which of us is more believable on a daily basis.

Besides, BS is BS regardless of whether Williams is the author or DiLorenzo. Or you.

98 posted on 03/26/2008 9:34:58 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
like i said,Dr Williams is about 100 times as smart/well-read than ANY of you REVISIONIST, LOUD-mouthed, arrogant, DYs.

free dixie,sw

99 posted on 03/26/2008 9:46:08 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur; beckysueb; stand watie
quotes from Southern leaders showing that their views of blacks were more enlightened than Lincoln's

Lincoln is falsely revered by the yankee history books as 'The Great Emancipator'.

But, if you insist, because you certainly have it coming:

"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races -- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race." ---Abe Lincoln

"I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man - to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don't propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment. Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I'll come to your relief." ---Nathan Bedford Forrest --General Nathan Bedford Forrest - the first true civil rights leader

And show me where I don't.

You are well know on these threads as a spin-meister and it would be easy enough but too time consuming to link all of your spinning. Enough said.

Oh God, are you still clinging to that Walter Williams POS? Errors and all?

Oh Lord, do you still cling to The Lincoln Mythology POS, errors and all?

100 posted on 03/26/2008 9:50:32 AM PDT by cowboyway (Did I say that out loud?)
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