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Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima

Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4


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To: Sacajaweau

this story really tore at my heart:

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“At this time, some five weeks after Daniel’s death, the toxicology report has also not yet been completed.

Meanwhile, a local funeral home owner has reportedly expressed concern over the mental state of Ms Smith.

Loretta Butler-Turner, director of Butler’s Funeral Home and Crematorium, reportedly told US media that she was shocked by Ms Smith’s behaviour as she laid her son to rest.

Mrs Butler-Turner was quoted as saying of the former Playmate: “I think reality truly has not set in and she wanted to know if she could take him home and give him a warm bath.”

By KARIN HERIG Tribune Staff Reporter

http://www.bahamasb2b.com/news/wmview.php?ArtID=9328


3,581 posted on 11/20/2007 10:49:33 PM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

You posted a link to the official Broward County Investigation into the scene of the “death”. It’s a PDF document so I can’t cut and paste it.

It states that HKS told ANS at 11:00 AM that he was going to look at the boat. If I remember correctly, there was a period of time when HKS was alone with ANS, and didn’t leave the hotel room until he went downstairs, leaving her alone, and was met unexpectedly by Tas, and the others after 12 noon.

Also, the Medical Examiner leaves the facts to speak for themselves: she reports that Tas called Moe when she started CPR at 12:30 PM. The next thing: Moe calls 911 when he returns to the hotel room at 1:40 PM.

And yet, no one even says boo. Why the long time between the beginning of CPR and calling the ambulance?

And why did HKS say goodbye to ANS at 11:00AM when he was alone with ANS until the others arrived after 12? What was the point of mentioning this? Only to establish that she was alive the last time he saw her at 11:00 AM? Thus her time of death would have been between @11:15 and 12:30 PM? But wasn’t she “blue” at 12”30? Weren’t there signs that she had died several hours prior? Haven’t we decided that her death must have been closer to 9 AM? Does anyone remember?

Also, I didn’t realize that all of the medications were found in Moe’s bedroom. There is NO mention of Chloral Hydrate in ANS’ bedroom. So how could she have overdosed on Chloral Hydrate unless it was handed to her? Howard stated to police that he was alone with her and no one else prior to her death. Which means he administered her last dose of medication. She was never alone long enough to get to Moe’s room, find the CH, and get back to bed.

It would have been an impossibility. By the facts that HKS originally gave the police on the day of her death, he admits only he could have given her the overdose. Whether by accident or not, that is a fact. But Perper wrote it up in a different way: he wrote that she was known to take as much medication as she desired indicating that Anna was responsible for administering her last dose of CH. Yet, his autopsy says she didn’t die of one big overdose anyway, but of repeated doses over several days combined with tons of other CNS depressants. No, it all adds up to one thing: either medical incompetence by KE, or deliberate poisoning by KE and HKS combined.


3,582 posted on 11/20/2007 11:07:58 PM PST by SundayGardener
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To: blueplum

Sounds like the same disconnect from reality we saw on the clown video.


3,583 posted on 11/20/2007 11:16:12 PM PST by SundayGardener
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

“She was very close to Danny and I saw it,” Stern said during the hearing presided over by Magistrate William Campbell at the Coroner’s Court at the Royal Victoria Gardens in Nassau. “Almost every time I saw Anna Nicole, she had Danny with her.”

http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=851eb6bf-c642-4500-9951-bb0e9f6c1442

every time he ‘saw’ Anna - heck he lived with her! is he not painting that picture?


3,584 posted on 11/20/2007 11:53:11 PM PST by blueplum
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To: SundayGardener

trying to picture it from memory, but on pdf documents toolbar, just left from center, to the right of the ‘hand’ is a little box where you can select text - a clickable box - then you can highlight and right click to copy and paste to clipboard (unless the doc has been protected) sometimes it works for me and sometimes not :)


3,585 posted on 11/20/2007 11:59:05 PM PST by blueplum
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To: sodpoodle
To resurrect that old joke...

Did ANS give birth to the child via C-section? If so, the baby must be the only person in the US who never saw ANS' p*ssy.

The birth of a daughter - whose paternity was and whose welfare is questionable

3,586 posted on 11/21/2007 12:08:36 AM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Rte66

that would be Nurse Odumade Adenike

here’s her expected testimony:
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,1536410_20015926,00.html

:)


3,587 posted on 11/21/2007 12:18:27 AM PST by blueplum
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To: Sacajaweau

states having powers may be a good thing - is there any law that says if the bahamas inquest is a dud, that texas can’t then open their own inquest?


3,588 posted on 11/21/2007 12:21:48 AM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

first up tuesday was monroe asking the court be cleared to consider the matters relating to the ‘impaneling of a jury’.

Anna’s mother, Virgie Arthur, is NOT on the witness list, but says she expects to be there, ‘every day’, and attended today with her husband, James Arthur.

Birkhead, who apparently IS on the witness list, says outside the courtroom that maybe what he has to say might even help HKS

from access hollywood:
According to our sources, Stern testified for about five minutes around 11AM EST.

Stern was reportedly asked two questions:

-Did you know Daniel Smith?
-Did you identify the body in the morgue?

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah7505.shtml

also, a poster previously reported that Stern volunteered info about pictures taken of Daniel without being asked

The attorney general’s office said Stern may be recalled as a witness for further questioning, according to AP.

according to JonesBahamas the pills were found after “Nurse Jancy Cota pulled the second bed out of the room to make space”...”She attempted to give the pills to the ER physician”...”however, he advised her to give them to the nursing supervisor, Patricia Lang.”
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“The second witness, Francis Woodside, a nursing assistant, told the court that when she went into Ms. Smith’s room the night before her son died there were three persons in the room along with the patient and her baby – Daniel Smith, Mr. Stern and a “white headed gentleman” that she could not identify by name.

“Ms. Woodside said she entered Ms. Smith’s room three more times during her 11:30pm to 7:30am shift – once to deliver three pillows, another time when Ms. Smith requested pain reliever and the third time, around 6am, to take the patient’s vital signs.

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“The third person called to the witness box was registered nurse and mid-wife Janice Knowles. She testified that she last saw Smith alive at 5:30am on September 10, 2006, when she came to take the baby out of the room and into the nursery.

“Ms. Knowles testified that Smith did not want the baby to leave and protested to his mother, but to her recollection the baby was taken out of the room.

“Next to take the stand was Mavis Davis, a certified phlebotomist – one who draws blood. She told the court that she last saw Smith alive around 6:20am when she went to draw blood from his mother.

“I saw a young man making adjustments to her (Anna Nicole’s) bed,” Ms. Davis said.

[snip]

The matter resumes December 10.

http://www.jonesbahamas.com/?c=45&a=14907


3,589 posted on 11/21/2007 3:47:30 AM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

to be noted:
ANS asked the nurse for a ‘pain-reliever’

why would she do that if HKS had his little black bag with him?????????????????????


3,590 posted on 11/21/2007 3:48:36 AM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum

from UPI:
The customs agent who cleared Daniel Smith when he entered the Bahamas the night before his death testified that he had appeared normal and requested a 90-day stay in the country, which had been granted

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/11/20/inquest_begins_into_smith_sons_death/2503/

from PEOPLE:
Howard K. Stern, former lawyer and confidante to Anna Nicole, made a brief appearance on the stand.

“Howard identified the body and how close he was to it,” Nassau attorney Godfrey Pro Pinder, tells PEOPLE. Stern likely will be called to provide more in-depth testimony later, says Pinder, who represents another witness in the case.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20161504,00.html


3,591 posted on 11/21/2007 4:10:32 AM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum
They gave her meds, and drew blood and took the baby all within about an hour. Where's the story about Daniel taking his mother to the bathroom? And where's Breakfast?"

So Daniel had been constantly disturbed...but when he said he was sleepy, Howard said "He should have thought more of it at the time". Geez...The young man just got off a long plane flight, too.

Red Herring No. 5: Howard is saying that Daniel was acting "sick". But, since when does "tired" equate to "death". Daniel wasn't 90. It also says that Howard was up most of the time.

3,592 posted on 11/21/2007 4:18:33 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: blueplum

I’m glad Pindar is there. I think he’s maybe one of the few honest Bahamian Attorneys around.


3,593 posted on 11/21/2007 4:20:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: All

What bothers me? Howard’s story about Daniel helping his mom to the bathroom. One would think that Howard would do that.


3,594 posted on 11/21/2007 4:27:14 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: All
Finally....Real Time:

Code Blue went out at 9:40 AM. His fingers were blue. He was "cool to the touch".

The last person to see Daniel moving was at 6:20.

3 Hours and 20 minutes.

Flash Forward: Howard helped Anna to the bathroom at 9:30 AM....+3 hrs 20 min = 12:50 AM.

Moe called Taz the first time when? The second time?

Anna's face was blotchy. Cool to the touch? Neither Taz nor Brigitte has said...but the fact that they were rubbing her feet tells me she was.

My guess in both cases is that they were dead for an hour before found.

I still think that Howard called Moe to call Taz because "he didn't know her number".

3,595 posted on 11/21/2007 5:01:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: All
Ms Carey found two pills in Howards bed.

Ms. hanna found a white pill in a bed....which bed has not been identified.

Clown video....The little girl said something about pills...white pills?

3,596 posted on 11/21/2007 5:05:10 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: blueplum
And as someone else pointed out on here the other day, not only might they have to get an order to exhume Anna to get to Daniel but also Howard Marshall since his ashes are buried with Anna.

The other day when I read that all I could think of is what a dastardly conniving man Howard appears to be. IMO.

3,597 posted on 11/21/2007 5:20:53 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Did Howard make a mistake? Did burying Anna in the Bahamas give Bahama "rights" to exhume both bodies...all three in this case.

Always said there's something else in the urn besides Howard's ashes and that the tiara said: "The Queen is Dead"...which goes back to KE and the "Queen Bee" bit she apparently passed to Perper. I can almost feel the hate seething from KE.

3,598 posted on 11/21/2007 5:29:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: blueplum
"14035. Nobody asked Howard aboutthe photo about Daniel he volunteered it was only suppose to identify Daniels from a photo taken in the morgue."

If this report is correct then Howard is saying that he took the picture of Daniel to use it to I.D. Daniel from a picture of Daniel taken at the morgue.

Well that certainly makes sense. / sarc off

3,599 posted on 11/21/2007 5:46:13 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: blueplum
I agree, Howard doesn't make much sense most of the time. IMO.

Actually, in the last few years almost every time we saw Anna, Howard was with her but I don't think that they were very close especially towards the end. IMO.

3,600 posted on 11/21/2007 5:48:43 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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