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Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima

Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Conspiracy; Society; TV/Movies
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To: blueplum

speaking of nbc....I just figured out why Rita was railroaded....

was it not, Rita,

that ferretted out Bridgette and King and got their interview????...King remains thisclose to HKS and recently passionately defended him


3,121 posted on 11/13/2007 12:10:18 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: TrishaSC

you’re right - i’m sure he had ‘allotted hours’


3,122 posted on 11/13/2007 12:17:55 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: TrishaSC

I’m confident that vicki finally realized she was being set up the moment Shelley asked her for a copy of the clown tape - there is a reason it was there, waiting for Shelley to grab, allegedly exactly where vicki told him it would be...imo vicki made a copy that hks didn’t know about - he was, truely, stunned by it’s appearance imo.

why didn’t seidlin allow the entire thing to be shown - or order it?


3,123 posted on 11/13/2007 12:24:29 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum

The Clown Tape: Even if the whole world considers it stolen, Shelley has the right to protect and defend his child and Howard can in no way claim it’s his and/or subject to privacy or the Anna’s Estate cr**.


3,124 posted on 11/13/2007 12:50:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: TrishaSC

but there was no documented sexual abuse... virgie divorced hogan when vicki was a toddler. Virgie married Hart, who was of no notariety, and Vicki apparently had no issues with him, taking his name, Hart, as her last name.

IMO, vicki, not understanding the reasons her father couldn’t be in her life, started chasing boys for attention. At 15, Virgie allegedly handcuffed her to a bed for the night to keep her from running off with an older man who she claimed to love while Virgie was working the night shift - a story backed up in Big Beautiful Doll, and then Virgie did what a lot of mothers would do - got her out of Dodge by sending her to the country. We can reasonably assume that by 15/16, Vicki was sexually active, marrying at 17. and by 19?, Vicki was stripping for dollars, allegedly pounding the doors of modeling agencies, and involved with both male and female lovers.

so.... What “complicity” of virgie in ‘anything’?

LB squirmed because he was forced to admit that vicki did want to call her mom when she found out she was pregnant in order to keep up the ruse of being allied with virgie in the courtroom, as part of his ‘good guy’ fascade.

“Arthur said that while her contact with her daughter diminished over the years—going from getting mother-daughter manicures to living in separate states—it never burned out as Stern claimed. She said she spoke with Smith on the telephone every three or four months and that it was only when Stern entered into Smith’s life, in the mid-’90s, that her contact was severely curtailed.”
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=44d74fb3-39ef-4907-95fc-b608795c0964&page=2

imo from the beginning, Larry was only for Larry and he was all too happy to stir the bashing of Virgie once it suited him

note this recent interview:

HATTEN: She told me Larry was the father, yes.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
LEVIN: What turned?
BIRKHEAD: Oh, you know, I don’t know, because I’ve never met her, so I couldn’t say where — what kind of — you know, what — where her mind is. But I know that she’s definitely friends with Virgie Arthur, which is, you know, Anna Nicole’s mother, who I’m still fighting in the Bahamas. So, you know, you can scratch your head on that one or connect the dots.

And then, you know — so I don’t know. I mean, you know, if she — she was not a friend of Anna Nicole’s toward the end of her life. I know that for a fact. Because, you know, from the time I met Anna Nicole to the time of her death, Jackie Hatten’s name was never mentioned. She never once called any phone that Anna Nicole ever had. And that’s
the same thing for her mother.

These people were people that were outcasts of Anna’s life, for whatever reason. That’s not my fight. But I know for certain...

LEVIN: And Howard is in lockstep on this, right?

RALE: Yes.
[snip]
LEVIN: Cosby says in the book, essentially, that you brokered a deal for Dannielynn, that you basically said to Howard, look, I’ll cut you in on the back end here and you’ll get, you know, you’ll administer the estate and,
in return, give me the baby.

BIRKHEAD: That’s absolutely false.And, actually, I still don’t even have custody of the child. Like I said earlier,
I’m still — I’m still, you know, for Dannielynn, I’m still fighting for her in the Bahamas. So I still have to return back to a foreign jurisdiction to fight this out.

Howard was removed from the Bahamas action by the judge there after he was declared not to be the father. So, basically, now I still fight — I’m still fighting Virgie for the same thing...And as far as what my goal in this, is to

protect my daughter...”

this is about the same as he was saying Feb 27th:

“The court of public opinion has shifted my way. I’m just hoping for the best for everybody,” Birkhead said.
He told INSIDE EDITION he’s “110%” sure that he will win [CUSTODY] of Danielynn because “DNA is DNA.”

http://www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=627


3,125 posted on 11/13/2007 2:14:40 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau

Anna filed for divorce in 92 iirc, granted in 93, uncontested

Anna already knew how to dance country - her video interview for Playboy shows her very accurately demonstrating the difference between the texas two-step and the westcoast two-step. :)


3,126 posted on 11/13/2007 2:18:49 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau
from thread notes, both Barth and Ron Rales objected to the will being made public, Rales saying it would be an 'affront' to 'anna's privacy' 'in the Bahamas', Barth whining about 'media' - Barth bet her law license it was in existence, and Howie signed an affidavit that was being waved around. I believe it was also NBC (rita) that broke the will story. Instead of upholding his clients' last wishes, the client he would 'do anything for', howie's now contesting that same will, in order to continue in a position of control over Anna's estate and DL. HKS and KE wanted Anna to change that will - Anna wasn't going for it..that's my feeling. and of course, we still have this matter:

Feb 17th, '07 - ANS will 'filed' in Bahamas - http://www.tmz.com/category/anna-nicole-smith/ Will was faxed 2/3/2007 and filed in the Bahamas on 2/17/07

3,127 posted on 11/13/2007 3:00:02 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

she had a ‘bath’ every single day she was in the room and at least one prior to arrival - check my page - i’m still trying to find a second confirmation of bonnies’ statement that a bath occurred thurs am, too.

changing meds - withholding antidepressants especially can cause siezures - that is why, one has to be ‘weaned off’ antidepressants iirc


3,128 posted on 11/13/2007 3:07:04 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

you give stern and larry any credibility at all when it comes to the drugs going in and out of that house? pshawwww.....druggies associate with druggies!

the houston cop said anna never did drugs in his presence and Seidlin threw him out? well, seidlin’s a bleeding idiot. According to the shelleys, anna wasn’t doing drugs in the Nov-Dec31st=Jan visit, either. Methadone was Prescribed for Anna during her April ‘06 hospitalization - she was being weaned off it. Until HKS showed up in the bahamas, Anna was ‘normal’ according to both Shelleys. I’d rather listen to Jackie when she said, that, Anna said, it was really hard to stay clean with HKS around pimping the contents of his black bag. (imow)


3,129 posted on 11/13/2007 3:14:33 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

you’d be surprised what a woman would do, with her child being held as a bargaining chip - she’d already seen one mur...umm...suddenly die....


3,130 posted on 11/13/2007 3:16:08 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

well, i’m going to be contrarian and go with, she was legitimately sick from that abcess - until we see a wbc report, not a part of the autopsy that I saw, we’ll have to agree to disagree :)


3,131 posted on 11/13/2007 3:31:07 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

where are the drug-pkg drugs? are they the 1/26 rx’s?


3,132 posted on 11/13/2007 3:34:13 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

CH has a half-life of 4 minutes so CH itself would not be detected - it’s metabolites is what gave the levels away:

“The absence of the parent chloral hydrate in the blood of Miss Smith suggests that her death did not occur immediately after a large ingestion/administration of the drug; due to the extremely short half-life of 4 minutes
for chloral hydrate and since the chloral hydrate was a liquid preparation.
[snip]
Miss Smith had a peripheral blood TCE concentration of 75µg/mL and TCA concentration of 85µg/mL which is consistent with her having received repeated doses of chloral hydrate over a couple of days. A general therapeutic range for TCE is 2 to 12µg/mL
The TCE concentrations found in the blood, liver, brain, gastric and duodenal contents taken from Miss Smith are similar to literature concentrations (i.e., blood, 55µg/mL; brain, 91µg/g; liver, 200µg/g; and gastric, 5g) found in a fatality that occurred 3 hours after ingestion of chloral hydrate6.
[snip]
Serum and vitreous (eye fluid) chloride levels were elevated suggesting dehydration,
[snip]
This suggests that she took a significant dose of chloral hydrate in the hours preceding her death.
[snip]
j. Chloral hydrate may result in jaundice or icterus in cases of chronic toxicity. The absence of these findings suggests an overdose resulting in acute toxicity in this case.
b. If most cases of suicide, the victim ingests a large amount of a drug to insure death. The bottle found of chloral hydrate found near Miss Smith was only half empty.
c. In many case of prescription drug overdose, multiple drug levels are elevated.
In this case, all drug, except chloral hydrate are at therapeutic levels.

http://www.broward.org/medical/investigative_report.pdf


3,133 posted on 11/13/2007 3:39:34 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau

Anna wasn’t told, we’re going to the hospital. Anna was told, to call 911 herself (investigative autopsy report) Moe has stated that nobody was encouraging Anna to go. It’s obvious that noone picked up the phone, not even to call the house doc or a private doc to come to the hotel.

There was more than one way, to get a doctor, to Anna. nobody took that action. We’re taking the bait, that it was ‘anna’s fault’ if we don’t look at a 105 temp delirous patient, differently.


3,134 posted on 11/13/2007 3:46:02 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Lizarde

prescribed jan 2 means it traveled to the hotel - not part of taz/moe pkg!


3,135 posted on 11/13/2007 3:46:50 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau

i totally agree - and i really have to wonder, with the showing of that tape, why HKS hasn’t been brought in for questioning as a ‘person of interest’ - Still !


3,136 posted on 11/13/2007 3:49:44 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: Sacajaweau

????

Perper never said ‘full’. Is was about 1.18”x.98”x.79”

How could it be “full” when Perper himself decribes it was perforated out to the skin surface?! We all know what happens when you perforate a real abscess.

Where are the verification tests? The external lab or CDC of his rare finds? We know he claimed to find Norvirus too. LOL He had an external lab AND the government Disease Center test it and still.. nothing! His weirdo rare ones he can’t even prove! They were never found in her blood! A couple doses of Cipro excuse is whacked like the rest of his hype. When something is NOT there, it does NOT hurt and it does NOT kill. According to his maybe, possible, could have... acne would kill.

She had the flu and a virus according to his dreams.
Again, nothing! Cultures and multiple labs showed absolutely nothing. Yet he goes on blind to the SCIENTIFIC proof nothing existed and jabbers his theories of maybe, possibly to include them. Her colon and intestines were normal, not even inflammed!

What type of flu is he inventing? We know they can test and tell us. He doesn’t because he can’t! He check the stool and the lungs, nothing!

That dream isn’t enough for him, he goes on to invent a virus! He wants a Virus, problem is.. there is no virus. Two external labs, including the government disease center found nothing. He is forced to admit his wish list test was a false positive.

This nut case has an unnatural, unscientific strong desire to invent what is not there. He needs to be investigated!


3,137 posted on 11/13/2007 3:58:16 AM PST by nature
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To: nature
I have a problem with the fact that Dr. J. Perper keeps right on doing his job. No investigation. No removal from duties. TH on Nancy Grace. His handling of Anna Nicole's autopsy reveals his unfitness for the job.

And Howie executor of the estate! That is like having Michael Jackson lead a Cub scout troop.

3,138 posted on 11/13/2007 4:15:21 AM PST by apocalypto
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To: nature

“presence of markedly elevated pro-inflammatory biochemicals (cytokines IL-6 and IL-8, naturally produced by the body) in the serum also strongly supported an acute inflammatory process, such as infection.”

also: “all of the histologic findings are compatible with a normal, physiological response to an infectious or inflammatory etiology, characterized by granulocytic, megakaryocytic and lymphoid hyperplasia with mildly activated macrophages.”

http://www.broward.org/medical/investigative_report.pdf

to be noted: “Preliminary blood, ocular and urine test results indicated the absence of alcohol and methadone,”

therefore, the excuse that Anna wouldn’t go to the hospital because methadone would be detected is an invalid excuse.


3,139 posted on 11/13/2007 4:25:03 AM PST by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum

jethro! lol - Rale’s son. :D

Larry saying what anna did or didn’t do before he was suppose to know her is laughable. I am glad he stepped up with his dumb big mouth to show himself once again the liar he is.

I didn’t keep my Jackie stuff. I will have to check it all again but I know there were things that didn’t add up with her story either.

Born 1972 .. 1991 would put her at 19.
Showed Arizona college before CA IIRC
What years did she attend Arizona?
When did she show up in California?
When did she play her first pro ball in CA?
When does she show in CA college? IIRC it was later like 1993 or something.


3,140 posted on 11/13/2007 4:50:46 AM PST by nature
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