Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima
Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4
After watching the whole Clown Video tonight, and witnessing the effect of the drugs HKS was giving her, she could not have been in contact with reality much of the time. If Shelly is correct that Anna was perfectly lucid when he dropped his daughter off, then the drug had the effect of flipping her mind into a delusional state. She was truly under HKS’s and KE’s control...as long as she sipped on her drink.
the a.baumannii reference is directly from the investigative report of the autopsy. There was an additional bacterium, p.luteola (see comments on p.luteola below).
the presence of the two exceedingly rare bacterium IMO was the basis for Perper’s query whether ANS used alcohol swabs prior to injecting. The investigative report also speculates whether it was skin colonized, or a contaminated syringe, and notes that neither the injected substance nor the syringe were made ‘available’ to the autopsy team. the team does not rule out the bacterium being injected. “The possibility that a contaminated product was injected into the tissue cannot be ruled out...” (IMO, if it were ‘skin colonization’ then they could have swabbed any part of her body and gotten a positive result.)
I’ve also questioned why Perper said that KE ‘gave’ ANS neosporin’ and what that huge abscess on KE’s face was, that was not there in her initial interviews. ANS didn’t have a ‘cut’, she had the flu, so why the neosporin, unless, KE knew that ANS had an infected buttock and was trying to treat it with a superficial cream?
the dissertation on a.baumannii is here: (page 10, Investigative Report)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0326074report10.html
Psuedomonas Luteola:
Pseudomonas luteola is a rare clinical infection, in which no epidemiological trend has been established. Herein described are two patients with P. luteola bacteremia; one with a history of multiple tick bites and a leg ulcer, and the other involved in an all-terrain roll-over crash who developed pneumonia. The rare isolation of P. luteola should be considered significant when isolated in the blood....A screening colonoscopy, which was normal, was performed because P. luteola had been previously shown to be associated with colon cancer. 1 ....P. luteola was first described by Tatum et al (1974). 2 Since then, it has only been involved in 17 reported infections. 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 10 , 11 , 12 , 13 , 14 , 15
http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/ijid/vol4n2/tick.xml
The normal habitat of P. luteola is unclear, although it belongs to a group of bacteria normally found in water, soil, and other damp environments [3,4]. Reported human infections are rare
Reported human P. luteola infections are rare. These have included a septicemia in a patient with systemic lupus erythematosus under corticosteroid therapy who developed haemorrhagic pancreatitis complicated by a pancreatic abscess [5]; one case of bacteremia in a previously healthy patient with granulomatous hepatitis [9]; a bacteremia in a patient with peritonitis [10]; and non-bacteremic cases of peritonitis associated with gangrenous appendititis [10] and continuous ambulatory peritoneal dialysis [11]. Bacteremia has also been reported in patients with indwelling vascular catheters [10-12]. Other clinical isolates have been recovered from the bone of a patient with a femur abscess [10]; from a patient with a subphrenic abscess [10]; from the cerebrospinal fluid and wounds of neurosurgical patients with dural grafts or bone flaps [13]; from an HIV-infected patient with invasive cutaneous infection [3]; and from a patient with facial cellulitis [11]. To the best of our knowledge, only two cases of endocarditis caused by P. luteola have been reported in patients with prosthetic cardiac valves [13,14].
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1274313
Due to the close phylogenetic relatedness between Chryseomonas and Pseudomonas, this bacterium was reassigned to the genus Pseudomonas as Pseudomonas luteola (1). Currently, some authors still call the organism Chryseomonas luteola while others refer to it as Pseudomonas luteola (1, 6, 11, 17).
Previous studies showed that C. luteola may cause septicemia, peritonitis, and endocarditis in patients with health disorders or with indwelling devices (12). Up to now, 14 cases of C. luteola infection have been reported (2, 3, 5, 15, 17). For seven patients the organism was isolated from blood. Infections previously described include primarily septicemia (2), meningitis (10), osteomyelitis, endocarditis (12), and peritonitis (3). Also, its ability to infect critically ill patients who haveundergone surgical operations and/or had indwelling devices has been described (7). In other cases, the infection was associated with other factors, such as immunosuppressive therapy, chronic renal failure, and malignancy (14).
http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/full/42/4/1837
P. luteola is uncommonly implicated in clinical infections, but it constitutes a significant nosocomial pathogen causing mainly infections associated with foreign material. This report describes an unusual case of a P. luteola strain that infected and caused cutaneous abscess and bacteraemia in a 65-year-old previously healthy man [Greece; date not given]. He was successfully treated with ceftazidime and amikacin, and was subsequently discharged from the hospital in good health.
http://www.cababstractsplus.org/google/abstract.asp?AcNo=20043140764
Pseudomonas luteola is an aerobic, Gram negative rod, formerly classified as CDC group Ve-1 and Chryseomonas luteola. It is an uncommon clinical isolate. A previously healthy 59-year-old homosexual man with facial cellulitis and Pseudomonas luteola bacteremia is reported. Previously reported cases of P. luteola bacteremia have occurred in association with pancreatic abscess, prosthetic valve endocarditis, cardiac surgery, granulomatous hepatitis, peritonitis, and indwelling vascular catheters. This case suggests that the spectrum of disease caused by this bacteria may continue to expand.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9934547&dopt=AbstractPlus
Weekend warriors like Geraldo never have trancripts.
Fox never used to have any transcripts and you had to pay to get them. Greta has moved to partial with an occasional full transcript.
I missed a lot of testimony in FL .. but..
Didn’t Larry say something about he would leave to get food and come back 30 minutes later and Anna was drugged out from HKS?
HKS left the hospital twice:
“proceedings were to have included testimony from witnesses including the manager of the East Bay Street Esso On The Run service station, where Daniel is supposed to have stopped for dinner, and to use the ATM on the way from the
airport to visit his mother and Dannielynn....This was supposedly around *1:15* on the morning of September 9”
http://www.jonesbahamas.com/pdf.php?a=12097
Sep 10th - Nurses saw Stern leave twice; Jeans missing
The records also show that Stern left the room a few hours before Daniel died. A nurse places him out of the room at 4 a.m. Nurse Odumade Adenike noted that sometime after 2 a.m. Stern went to the nursing station and asked what restaurants were open – despite having already purchased soda, sandwiches and chicken strips at a 24-hour mini-mart an hour earlier. “He left and returned back about 4:00 a.m., but he had nothing in his hand and went straight to the room,” Adenike told police.
The inquest may also seek to understand what happened to the jeans Daniel wore when he died. Police collected the other items Daniel had been wearing: a brown t-shirt, white undershirt and blue underwear. Thompson’s son-in-law, Ford
Shelley, told police that the day Daniel died, he went to Stern’s home in the Bahamas and saw Stern pick up two white tablets that had fallen from Daniel’s jeans pocket and take them into a bathroom. Ford then heard the toilet flush.
(Ron Rale, one of Smith’s attorneys and a former law partner of Stern’s, says all of Shelley’s assertions are false. “We deny everything,” says Rale. “It’s ridiculous.”)
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,1536410_20015926,00.html
missing jeans, refusal to give dna, scratches on the left and right pelvic areas.....HKS could get rid of the jeans but not the underwear, therefore, his stand for no DNA......oh man....tell me I’m wrong, and I’m completely off my rocker - please! IMO MOO MOO
http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/27/news/newsmakers/anna_clothes/index.htm
Anna clothing line
Aug 2004
“Tex Sex” label name
The ‘pink’ video ironcially was at the Hard Rock!
EXTRA Dani Deven was the interviewer
http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2007/02/what_caused_anna_nicoles_sudde.html
Correction
EXTRA
Is is Dayna Devon not Dani.
Per commnetary in the video, the clothing line ‘pink’ zonked out of her mind video was 2004 also
http://money.cnn.com/2004/08/27/news/newsmakers/anna_clothes/index.htm
Anna clothing line
Aug 2004
“Tex Sex” label name
The ‘pink’ video ironcially was at the Hard Rock!
EXTRA Dani Deven was the interviewer
http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2007/02/what_caused_anna_nicoles_sudde.html
I don’t see her being injected on purpose.
Perper couldn’t get anything to grow!! It was from a sample taken directly from the left buttock abcess and even with that, nothing in her blood or urine on this bacteria!
IMO it has all the signs of a lab contaminant. Perper tried to say it “could” be because she was on Cypro, however, if you look at the few cypro pills missing that does’t make sense with such a dangerous bacteria to have no trace in her at all.
AND, the cypro wasn’t even prescribed until the day after they claim they gave it to her!! That to me is a huge flag.Perper fell for it but there is no denying.. how in the hell do you give someone Cypro on the 5th you don’t prescribe till the 6th???
Perper has NOTHING to support his hyperbole. Another diversion tactic from KE and HKS.
Perper
A. Microbiology There were several significant microbiologic findings in this case. Cultures of the left buttock abscess isolated Pseudomonas luteola and Acinetobacter baumannii, the latter being a potentially virulent organism. 1 These are not common bacterial contaminant of the skin and Acinetobacter is well-known to cause serious infections. Blood, urine, lung, and CSF cultures, however, failed to grow either of these micro-organisms, though non-pathogenic contaminants (mild to minimal growth) were isolated. This discrepancy can be explained on the grounds that Miss Smith was on an antibiotic (Ciprofloxacin) to which at least one of these bacteria ( Acinetobacter species) were sensitive (note: bacterial cultures taken while a patient is under antibiotic coverage are often negative despite clinically significant infection). It is very possible that perforation of a pre-existent intra-gluteal abscess by another cutaneous injection resulted in the introduction of bacteria into the blood. Alternatively, the introduction of foreign material via cutaneous injection into the buttock served as a nidus for a localized infection that then spread into the blood. The possibility that a contaminated product was injected into the tissues cannot be excluded since the likely substances injected into the buttocks could not be obtained and analyzed. Liberation of bacteria from a deep-seated abscess could also have occurred on the flight from the Bahamas to Florida due to prolonged sitting and/or turbulence during flight. In either event, it seems likely that bacteria from the abscess entered the bloodstream and resulted in significant symptomatology. This was manifested by high fever, chills, and prostration. Two reputable experts in infectious diseases contend that this hypothesis is reasonable. The presence of markedly elevated pro-inflammatory biochemicals (cytokines IL-6 and IL-8, naturally produced by the body) in the serum also strongly supported an acute inflammatory process, such as infection. No endotoxins were detected in the blood; however this assay is usually performed on antemortem specimens. Whether one considers the symptoms noted on her arrival in Florida diagnostic of sepsis or more compatible with the
‘’’’Monroe must have heard that Methadone pills were found on the bed HKS slept in at the hospital. That must be why he said Daniel died from Methadone pills, not liquid.’’’’’
That would put hks near the pills found in his bed again. I can’t believe hks would put himself anywhere near those pills after trying to blame Daniel for being in that bed and blame the dead kid for them. But Munroe saying it is big.
ok - speedtyping transcript again - don’t be mad if words are missing, I’ve tried to catch as much as I could accurately and there’s no ‘hit replay’ to hit :)
Geraldo sat nite, Oct 20th, ‘07
Voiceover: Proof positive ANS was medicated heavily
[clown video]
Geraldo: Shelley says ANS was coherant...ANS given something from white bottle with red stripes, after that Anna becomes the sad person we see on tape
She begins behaving as tho the doll she’s playing with is real baby and her baby down there is just “gas”
[HKS saying something to ANS that’s her real baby down there, riley also saying that, ANS looking at stomach with puzzled look]
Riley: brain trouble, brain trouble!
Geraldo: [Riley?] switches doll off to prove its a toy
ANS - “DON’T OPEN HER SKIN” [appears upset]
[video] - HKS - (tape was) “never to be released to the media but someone stole it to make her look bad”
Geraldo: Stern complained background music may have made tapes unusable
(HKS heard in background of tape saying tapes unusable)
HKS heard giving camera instructions “Anna watch your boob”, says to someone, “don’t show that [Mike/Mark?]” also says, “the pole is white” [note: future color-editing reference???]
HKS says, “this footage is worth money”
ANS: “why?”
Geraldo: ...her character really does believe the toy is her real baby
Riley - “Howard help, Howard, seriously! help, cut the tape off and help!
HKS heard to say, “is your baby still alive, Anna?”
Geraldo: ANS nurtures and tends to the doll, then stumbles outside to tennis court area clearly believing her baby is real
ANS heard to say: “don’t hurt the baby!” ANS seen running to baby carriage
Riley - “we need the hospital, Howard!! Seriously, please help!”
Geraldo: joining me now is Ford Shelley.
Geraldo - You could have made a million dollars on this tape why did you give it for free?
Shelley: I never expected to make money off Anna
Geraldo: why are you so emotional? Is it your daughter?
Shelley: yes....She’s tough...but she emotionally is not good
Geraldo - (Riley was)... mature, really courageous in many ways that day. Is that why you’re here?
Shelley: Yes. She saw a lot that day and kept it inside...
Geraldo: When you dropped her off for the play date, the idea was that since ANS had missed her birthday she was going to spend the day?
Shelley: (...)
Geraldo: What about the allegation from HKS that you stole this tape?
Shelley - I was sitting in an interview that morning... I was there four hours securing the home, told them they could get back in, no police showed up, they didnt’ stop us they didn’t stop the plane from taking off, if his friends were outside, why didn’t they stop me? why did they allow it?
Geraldo: You’re the legal owner?
Shelley: In my father-in-law’s name,...letter from Callenders that we own it
Geraldo: Did you stage the methadone?
Shelley: The night ET played a video(?), Mark Steines knew I was going there, because I was on his set - we didn’t set that up...we left our numbers there
Geraldo: do you swear to God?
Shelley: yes sir
Shelley: I’m not exploiting Anna... I did not make that tape, Howard did, (crosstalk) but when we say stoned and pathetic, Anna, Anna didn’t know! She was good to my child she wouldn’t have hurt her for nothing.
Geraldo: when we come back, gruesome photo of Daniel lying in his mothers arms after his death
Geraldo: Live in a recent edition of LKL, HKS brought up the shocking picture you are about to see..of ANS posing along side her just-dead son. He said Anna made him take the picture “for old time’s sake”
Geraldo - Out of respect for the dead, not shown by HKS... we have obscured the dead man’s face
[video, GBen/Craig] G.Ben - HKS called me, all frantically, and said, “Ben, you need to get to the hospital now, it’s not good”
Geraldo - (background on G.Ben)
[picture shown]
GBen: Daniel is laying in the bed Anna had been occupying, laying in the middle of the bed, Anna is laying horizontally beside him, Anna only a third of her body on bed, holding on to Daniel, crying, wanting the Lord to take her, “why are you doing this to me”, these kind of things most mothers would do...
Craig: did she say anything to HKS at that point?
G.Ben: Howard, I can’t believe this has happened, look at my baby!!!
Craig: At some point in time HKS told you to gather,,what did he tell you?
GBen: He told me just before we were leaving, there was three bags in the room, he told me to guard these bags with my life
Craig: ....one of these bags you later learned contained Anna’s drugs?
G.Ben: that’s correct
Craig - when Howard takes the pictures did you say anything? He say anything?
GBen: Yeah, I said, “Howard, what you doing?” and he said, “ I’m gonna take this picture, it’s probably gonna be worth a lot of money some day.”
Craig: what were your thoughts when you heard him say that?
GBen: I couldn’t imagine anyone thinking like that at that point in time
[LKL video]HKS: “I took that picture...she wanted me to
take a picture ...as proof Daniel had died.”
Craig: Howard has said on other interviews he took that picture for Anna to leave the room
GBen: No, the only way, Anna wouldn’t even consider leaving the room..the doctors...a psychiatrist had to come in and highly sedate her
Craig: so Anna said, take these pictures, Howard?
G.Ben: No, I did not hear her say that
Craig: did they secure that room?
G.Ben: No
Geraldo: did they search the room?
GBen: no
Geraldo: ...and HKS has the nerve to go on international television and claim ‘he’ is the victim
Geraldo: any other person in that room?
Craig: G.Ben was only other person
Geraldo: G.Ben was an eyewitness to HKS taking pictures and saying it would make some money
Geraldo: .....?? is going to make avail to him the tape, the whole unedited tape and the picture of Daniel
Gerragos: I was thinking that very thing, that obviously the investigators would want to take a look at that, that I would assume would play a role in their investigation and
give them what they are looking for. They don’t open an investigation unless they’ve got a target, and some kind of end goal, and that end goal is Howard.
Geraldo: ...want to get back to it a little later and a
change of pace (switch to baby found in tornado rubble)
[video: ANS putting clothes on doll. Asks doll:, “are you laughing at mamma? Yeah?” - is cooing to doll]
Geraldo: Alright, we’ll continue....
Geraldo: ...a consistency between drugs?
Craig: According to Wecht, there was a lethal combination of methadone, lexapro and zoloft..a lot of same drugs were also in Anna’s system when she died
Geraldo: and yet prochelli(?)?, HKS testified that ANS had not had methadone for five months before her pregnancy
Shelley: Dr Perper made the comment [methadone] was in her system 3 days before she died
Jeanine - everything that HKS has said, both under oath and not under oath, here’s..here’s a guy trying to make money off video, off her dead son, delivering pills to her every
24 hours...If this isn’t enough for a prosecutor to get involved...I don’t know what is !
Geraldo: what was your reaction, {Ran?}
(dont’ know who was talking) : Horrified; Ford, I really sympathize with you what happened with your daughter there, basically begging, begging, for her to get help, begging
for someone to take her to the hospital...it seems like, ... giving production notes, it doesn’t sound to me, it doesn’t sound to me that someone is taking a video for their personal collection, ...taking it to make money in the future
Geraldo: What gets me is the hutspha really, to go on Larry King and say Monday is Tuesday
Geraggos: maybe Anna was acting and he’s just giving her cues? ...it might have been an audition? (laughing) If I’m wrong I’m sure there’s a lot of “creative” prosecutors and
(crosstalk about only short part of tape shown)..that’s true, we haven’t seen much of it...
(pretty abrupt) end - on to other stories, no mention that I heard of a follow-up show tomorrow, sorry
i bet he reads the autopsy report every day, relishing every cut that was made MOO
in ANS’s last interview, she mentioned trimspa chocolates and trimspa water - recall her last statement was, trimspa water could be her bathwater? I’ve always understood that to mean that she would no longer be Trimspa weight loss pills product spokesperson but she would continue on in a different role, maybe a touring role, touting the two new products. JMO
I’m surprised she didn’t miscarry. Maybe the clown tape was the ‘punishment’ for rejecting him in favor of the Shelleys/GBen?
Shelley has said that ANS was perfectly lucid during July 05, also Nov and Dec 05 (except when HKS showed, then she stayed locked in her room with HKS as gatekeeper) also May 11 thru approx Aug 16th, (ANS hanging up on HKS, complaining of his calls) when ANS moved into the refurbished-by Shelleys-Horizons.
At this point, we don’t know what ANS was given or not given in addition to the ‘red stripes’ bottle contents, or how much. I doubt methadone would act ‘quickly’ only from what I’ve read about it’s effects. From what Shelley alluded tonite on Geraldo, ANS didn’t know what HKS was giving her. But Shelley’s comment seems to fit not only with what Hatten has said, but also LB and others - that HKS had drugged her heavily without her knowledge. We haven’t asked Shelley yet, what ANS may have told him in private, about life with HKS. Clearly, ANS was ‘just-this-side-of-lethal-dosing’ of Something, in that clown tape.
Proportedly, Shelleys were willing to wait for HKS to come to Bahamas to review paperwork. HKS says he went to the Bahamas twice, staying the second time. I recall reading somewhere that the Shelleys were unaware that HKS was at the house on that playdate until they picked up Riley. (and they didn’t appear too happy over HKS’s presence)
Wherever HKS goes, so goes drugs - mind-bending combinations of drugs IMO MOO
I'd buy that argument, maybe, if there weren't one, but two, highly unusual bacterium contaminants and if ANS didn't have a 105+ fever
Anna's autopsy wasn't done in some small cambodian village, it was done in Florida
p. Luteola wasn't discovered until 1974; a.baummannii wasn't discovered until Gulf War One - the chances of any lab, being contaminated with both, is in the trillions. IMO
what are your views about KE?
http://ibe.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/15/1/19.pdf
CDC it also occured during Vietnam war.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5345a1.htm
It is a bacteria, it can and has been found in the Bahamas or anywhere really. Typically in clinical settings. The problem isn’t where is it found but where it attacks those in weaken health and that it is resistant to all treatments of antibiotics that we have. In other words, it normally would not cause great problems for a healty individual aka hospital workers.
This resistance is important! How it related to Perper’s report I feel many over looked. We have a bacteria that is killing the frail, soldiers (remember Arizona over 100 dead) because MULTLI high does antibiotics aren’t working.
Yet....Perper can’t force this hardy germ to grow from any samples he took from ANS! Perper wants us to believe ALL traces of this almost impossible to treat supergerm even with multiple IV drugs, was suddenly gone from Anna’s blood on a few Cipro pills!!! See what I mean? If this were possible the Army and Navy would be stock piling Cipro in tiny blister packs of two a day and the problem would be solved!
Perper found nothing he could make grow her folks, not even a virus! He even states there was “no evidence of immunodepressed state”.
Look at all the sample he took and still......nothing!
“Blood, urine, lung, and CSF cultures, however, failed to grow either of these micro-organisms”
2. Extensive microscopic examination of body tissues. 3. Laboratory examinations of fluids and body tissues: a. Microbiology (bacterial cultures of blood, cerebro-spinal fluid, urine, buttocks, breast implants capsules, lungs and intestinal contents.) (viral cultures of lungs, heart and stools) b. Serology (enzymes and protein immunoassays, hepatitis profile, human immunodeficiency virus, rapid protein reagent, complement, C3, endotoxins, cytokines, double stranded DNA, ANA.
Didn’t someone on the show say that hks showed the photo on LKing but without the face blurred?
do you have a cite for that? i'm Very interested in it's spread throughout the western hemisphere!!
Yet....Perper can’t force this hardy germ to grow from any samples he took from ANS!
Proof of a raging bacterial infection is in the temperatures that persons of interest have reported ANS having
He even states there was “no evidence of immunodepressed state”.
all the more reason to be suspicious - ANS was a "healthy, well-nourished female, [weighing in at] 178 lbs." - hardly immunodepressed in the sense of the word of long-term hospitalized, hiv, leukemia, cancer, etc.
you know, a long time ago and far away, i spent some college time working in micro lab. One lab didnt' work. A second lab and a third lab...I was catching holy hell...short story, we ordered fresh agar bases, and voila', labs were perfection. Turned out the agar was 10yrs old and couldn't grow a mushroom anymore, much less bacterium. I still laugh (and cringe!) about that one! :)
But my point plum it there is no evidence of these. It is like he threw four odd balls out there trying to dang hard to make a case he didn’t have!
What are the odds that a ME with a masters degree would push FOUR problems that don’t exist and all tests can’t support??? I’d say that is a zillion to one too!
Remember .. Perper tries to invent a diversion of (4) FOUR ..not one, not two, but FOUR serious and unusual ...
What are the chances CDC, labs and specialist can’t grow or support a one of them?!!!
Norwalk virus
SIRS
p. Luteola
Acinetobacter baumannii
What are the chances a medical person would ‘try’ and present such a picture and son of a gun, never mention her white cell counts? Where are those levels? I don’t recall him addressing this very basic measure of infections. What medical person would ever throw out Sepsis / Sirs without a white count blood test (standard procedure for ANY suspected infection)?!
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