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Yep. We are just "spewing systematically."

Thought we should all know how evil we are...

1 posted on 07/09/2007 5:06:48 AM PDT by TLI
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"Bigotry and intimidation defeated the immigration bill more than anything else."

The unrelenting numbers that are still being allowed to enter illegally killed the bill. If you are upset that the bill didn't pass..make a call to fire Chertoff.

2 posted on 07/09/2007 5:11:41 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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His statement is partially true. Racism in the form of Hispanics coming to the aid of illegals based on their being mostly Mexican with Spanish surnames. If the illegals were Polish I doubt Mr. Morales or Geraldo would have been so keen on letting 12-20 million stay while keeping the door open for more to come.

Since Hispanics are not really a race, Geraldo and Sammy Sosa are not the same race, Morales should have framed his argument as a bias against Mexicans.

3 posted on 07/09/2007 5:16:27 AM PDT by nativist (Weigh into them!)
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To: TLI

Demand a border fence! Build it NOW!! Beef up the border patrol and close our borders!

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4 posted on 07/09/2007 5:17:52 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Indianhead Division: Second To None!)
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To: TLI

There is, unfortunately, some truth to this statement, at least in perception.

Any argument against illegal immigration based on the undesirable characteristics of lower-class Mexicans will inevitably and quite reasonably be viewed by all (legal) Mexican immigrants and all Americans of Mexican ancestry as aimed at all Mexicans. It is only human nature to spring to the defense of “your people” when they are attacked.

The Democrats largely lost the South because they insisted on attacking and showing their contempt for all white southerners, alienating even those of them who leaned towards the politics of the changing Democratic Party.

I think racially/ethnicly based comments in opposition to illegal immigration, regardless of how accurate, are tactically self-defeating. Most Hispanics and many whites and blacks will be offended by them and tune out other perfectly adequate non-racial/ethnic arguments.


5 posted on 07/09/2007 5:25:35 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (It's not the heat, it's the stupidity.)
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To: TLI

Hmmm...BS alert...I am Hispanic...I have yet to encounter any hostility...of course, I am a citizen and here legally...hmmm...


6 posted on 07/09/2007 5:26:14 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Faith is not believing that God can. It is knowing that God will. - Ben Stein)
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To: TLI

Most Mexicans are Brown and generally not liked by Americans so racism is a reality.

Pray for W and Our Troops


7 posted on 07/09/2007 5:33:41 AM PDT by bray (Member of the FR President Bush underground)
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If 10 million mostly white or mostly black Americans illegally migrated to Mexico and set up shop, Mexicans would get into an uproar about it. Someone could point at them and say “bigots!” as well.


18 posted on 07/09/2007 7:31:54 AM PDT by ruination
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To: TLI

My opinion would be *exactly* the same if they were Canadians (or Brits,or Norwegians,or...) instead of Mexicans.


19 posted on 07/09/2007 7:42:29 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: TLI; Lurker; gubamyster

Illegal Aliens:

GTHOOMC!

(Note: I didn't mention anybody's RACE.)

20 posted on 07/09/2007 7:51:54 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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30 posted on 07/09/2007 9:03:10 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Here are the racists:

I mean, if they weren't racists, why would they lend their political capital to a violently anti-American organization called "the Race"?


32 posted on 07/09/2007 9:10:26 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Implement the FairTax and be free and prosperous, or stick with the StupidTax...it's up to you...)
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What nonsense. How is it racism and bigotry if we oppose rewarding criminals? I am against amnesty for Mexicans as well as the Russian Mafia members, Somalis, Jamaicans, etc.
35 posted on 07/09/2007 9:20:31 AM PDT by Dante3
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"There's racism in this debate," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., reacting to the tone used by the immigration bill's opponents.

Um, no, there's not, Lindsey.

Unless you consider foreigners a different race than Americans.

Me, I believe my biology book, which told me our race is HUMAN.

Sheesh. I am getting very tired of explaining this.
37 posted on 07/09/2007 9:28:13 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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“There’s racism in this debate,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., reacting to the tone used by the immigration bill’s opponents.

Here’s some more “racists” for you, as follows:

“You Don’t Speak for Me! Formed when Col. Al Rodriguez became fed up watching media coverage of the mass protests of April. ‘Their leaders were saying it was a march for immigrant rights and a Latino/Hispanic movement,’ says Rodriguez. ‘I thought to myself, ‘Hey, those are illegal aliens, not immigrants!’ Col. Rodriguez began speaking out to others saying, ‘I’m of Hispanic ancestry and those people are acting like they speak for me. Well, you don’t speak for me!’”

http://dontspeakforme.org/


39 posted on 07/09/2007 9:45:01 AM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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And what to groups like “La Raza” stand for?

They can all go to you know where!


49 posted on 07/09/2007 2:55:21 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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