Posted on 04/19/2007 7:24:03 AM PDT by bedolido
Whatever you call them, pups Arnie and Angel could be the first of a new breed.
Cath and Graham Wilson think they might have uncovered a new breed of dog after their Dalmation Tom mated with their seven-year-old Bernese Mountain Dog Cassie.
Cath and Graham, of Croston, Lancs, have dubbed the two unlikely puppies Bernations.
(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.co.uk ...
His disposition is all lab. He thinks he’s a person. He’s obedient, submissive, knows about 10 words, he will bark and claw at a Rotwieller out of the window but cower down like a sissy at distant thunder.
And he’s nosey. He has to know what everyone is doing at all times.
Lol, can’t devise a name for that combo!
He’s praying!
How about a Bermation?
Burmation?
Burmatian would be a cross between a Burmese Cat and a Dalmatian . . . don’t think THAT’s gonna fly!
THey’re cute, but they’re not a new breed. They are simply a cross between 2 existing breeds. They will not breed true, as it takes many generations to fix type (be able to predict what you will get from a mating). I’m a little tired of people thinking they are creating something new when they cross 2 existing breeds. While they may make nice pets, and even be outstanding dogs in some way (outstanding is rather in the eye of the beholder), they are not anything any more special than any other mixed breed. In addition, you will still find some of the bad traits of either breed. I’m tired of *breeders* touting their particular cross as having only the best traits of the breeds they started out with. I don’t know why anyone would believe that hype, however many people clearly do.
susie
. . . "Labradoodles" are much touted but nowhere near fixed in type yet.
For heaven's sake, you can't fix type in a field/conformation Lab cross!
While I hate to pick on any breed (and have met nice dogs of every breed I’ve ever met) chows always give me pause. They are not generally friendly to strangers (I worked at a vet and unfortunately we were one of the only places in town that would dip chows and I often did the honors). The thing that always worried me was that they didn’t necesarily warn you before they tried to bite. I can handle a dog that is clear about their intentions, but I had more than a few who would wag their tails while they waited for you to get in range.
The only dog who every nearly got me was a chow/cocker mix. Cute dog. Not a nice one, however.
And to those who have sweet chows, don’t flame me. I’ve met a few who were great. It’s sad they aren’t all, as they are lovely dogs, and probably the cutest puppies in the world.
susie
If someone thought it was profitable, they would try! ;)
susie
A bad idea.
LOL
Yeah, we see alot of labradoodles and goldendoodles out here. They pretty much run the gamut in looks and temperment. And they certainly don’t all have a nonshedding coat. People spend more for one than I charge for a golden puppy with clearances back as far as you can see and a guarantee. It’s funny, in a way, but I do wonder how many end up in shelters when they don’t turn out to be what the *breeder* promised.
susie
I’ve never met a cocker spaniel with an ounce of brains, and that includes my mother’s erstwhile two, Butler and Banjo.
Cockers as a breed are about as sharp as a bag of wet hair.
They used to be really nice little dogs. I have a friend who breeds cockers (shows them and also does agility/tracking/obedience with them). They are way more energy than I want to live with, and some I agree are not very bright, but a few have been pretty cool little dogs. Unfortunately puppy mills have spewed out zillions of them over the years, so much of what you see is pretty randomly bred. It’s too bad, because I think they are the perfect size, and ALL hunting breeds should be trainable and even tempered.
susie
bump!!!!!!!
I think it's the same old story - dog gets popular, everybody wants one, the puppy mills swing into action, and the gene pool collapses. With the Cockers it was Nixon and Checkers (remember Checkers?) and the Coppertone girl . . .
No, I know the difference in the breeds. There are decent American cockers out there. But I agree they are few and far between. Lots of nice spaniel breeds tho, for those who do want to hunt with one.
susie
Your pointer mix reminds me of my late, great Elke. She was the freest dog on earth.
We lived in a place that was dog heaven — vast fields, trees. She loved to roam around; rarely wore a leash.
Memories choke me up.
Wonder if their hair will be long or short.
Long haired Dalmation would be interesting.
Seriously, I met some of the other puppies from Shelley's litter -- she's half conformation and half field -- and they run the gamut from 'looks like conformation' to 'looks like field', and everything in between. One brother we met is quite a large Lab - easily 85-90 pounds - with the big conformation head. Shelley was the smallest of the litter, blocky in body like a conformation Lab but in miniature, with a snipey head like a field Lab. But her personality is ALL field. If you back-crossed with one side or the other, no telling what you'd get!
And if just that outcross within the registered breed has that much effect, how on earth does anybody expect to have a recognizable type when they cross a Lab and a Poodle?
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