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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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Oh, I don’t think it would take much to guilt Larry. He obviously has a conscience, something Howard doesn’t comprehend.
Even the breaking of the confidentiality agreements vexed him, with a crime being committed (the kidnapping of his baby) while he felt he had to stay silent.
Anything more would definitely be Howie-fodder.
I just want to get to the inquest before the point where "No one really cares". It's a whole friggin' month away before it even starts.
Absolutely. It’s a tough road to hoe, and I admire the ones who stick it out. You seem to see it so often, that when one begins the road to recovery, they almost feel “high” from it, and with good reason. I remember seeing Anna in an interview at some point after what was, I think, her first rehab effort, and she was so enthusiastic and said she was never going down the road of addiction again. More often that not, sadly, they revert. It takes a lot of time and constant hard work to guard from the temptations and learn how to live life with no crutches. Well, chocolate maybe....
- if she did, he would have taken it then, not later. he could get 'tums' at the airport, so i'm not sure if i'd go for that explanation just yet
After each death, didn't Howard call KE FIRST!!
from my notes, yes
LOTS of chocolate. Also, jigsaw puzzles. LOL, they’re my “valium.” Just keep a big one out on a table at all times and go ponder over it when something’s bothering me. Then eat more chocolate.
I don’t think Larry will, but Virgie will try. I actually wouldn’t mind if it was reopened, because then we might be able to get answers to all the questions we hash over and over and end some speculation. But, how could Virgie go about pressuring the Seminoles or Broward Co. to reopen?
LOL! Where IS Ford lately?
You know, tonight on Dateline there was a true crime murder mystery. A woman was found floating, dead, in the shallow water in front of a resort lodge.
Her husband had “last seen” her out on the deck above the boat dock behind their vacation cabin. It was late at night and he left her to go inside and say goodnight to their two sons in the cabin.
He went back out “to check on her” “when she hadn’t come back in” nearly 2 hours later. LOL, I pinned the guilt on him at that moment. Sure enough, the jury did, too - he’s in for life, murder 1.
Doing the plane preps and revving the engine!
I think I heard both sides indicate their PIs were digging up stuff, so your memory is fine.
My stepmother always has a jigsaw puzzle out:) I can’t, as I don’t have the room and the crazy cats would destroy it in a nanosecond. Godiva chocolates have been my addiction lately. I requested them as a Christmas present. When I’ve gotten a small box in the past, my kids emptied it before I got to finish it, and I let them and husband all know that’s what I wanted for Christmas. Well, this year, I got 3 different sizes and types of Godiva chocs, PLUS a large box of assorted chocs. from an excellent local candy shop. I was happy as a pig in a poke, and gained a few pounds, too!
“Heart attacks don’t make you “sleepy” and most other body failures have outstanding symptoms.....one of which is not “sleepy”.”
UNLESS, there were drugs (such as methadone) given that would mask, preceed, potentiate or coverup the unfolding lethal body symptoms. For example, methadone and GHB. Both readily available to HKS - one via street contacts and the other by prescription.
Both would be relatively tasteless in beverages. Lots about them as lethal together on the net. Identified in fatal party OD’s in nightclubs, in gay literature cautioning that “party doses” become lethal when combined with HIV antiviral drugs. Some sites point out that GHB is practically undetectable at death and not at all after a few hours at room temperature.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/418321_3
GHB – Gamma Hydroxybutyrate (10)
Names: Liquid Ecstasy, Easy lay, grievous bodily harm, cherry meth, gook, gamma 10, liquid X, liquid G, liquid E.
Desired effects: Used to produce euphoria, disinhibition, sexual enhancing effects without an appreciable hangover
Made a Schedule 1 drug in 2000.
Presentation: orally as a capsule or as a powder which may be dissolved in liquid. Usually sold as a slightly salty, clear liquid in small bottles and taken by the capful. The concentration may vary and the amount taken at one time also, therefore reaction is unpredictable.
Absorption and metabolism: When taken orally the onset of action is within 15 minutes to an hour and lasts from one to three hours. The elimination half-life is 27 minutes and the primary route of elimination is expired breath as carbon dioxide. (59) While the patient is intoxicated with GHB and apneic he or she may have episodes of violent agitation so physical stimulation must be kept at minimum. (THIS WOULD BE NOT SEEN IF GIVEN WITH METHADONE)
Psychological/physical effects: delusions, depression, altered mental status.(57) Physical effects include mydriasis, or miosis, inconsistent pupil response, visual disturbances, myoclonus, agitation, BRADYCARDIA, HYPOTENSION, NAUSEA, VOMITING, VERTIGO, RESPIRATORY DISTRESS, TRANSIENT METABOLIC ACIDOSIS, LOSS OF AIRWAY REFLEXES, LOSS OF CONSCIOUSNESS, AMNESIA, COMA (3).
Potentiation: by alcohol, ketamine, benzodiazepines, major tranquilizers, OPIATES AND DERIVATIVES, anticonvulsants and over-the-counter cold medicine and sleep medication. ALL THESE CAN POTENTIATE THE EFFECTS AND LEAD TO FURTHER RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION. Methamphetamines can increase chance of seizures.
Sounds like a “slam dunk.”
Mmmm. Love their truffles, especially those little seashells with the praline filling.
Oh, those seashells. Is Christmas coming again soon? Wait! There’s Mother’s Day:)
not buying it...anna was down to maintenance methadone and some zanax according to the shelley. If she ws back to old levels by Feb, then somebody supplied it to her. if KE and HK were concerned about 'testing' which OPRI had been pushing for since 10/06, then I don't see why, Anna, was paraded on TV and at appearances, in a toasted condition, in October, november, december, and january.
IMO the drugging of anna was methodical and deliberate over several months. No way should she have been sedated more than 10 days for Daniel's death. And Goen was a hypnotist and Anna had Dr. Amazing hypnotist also, as KE could well be. Sleep wasn't the issue. She could be dropped into hypnotic sleep with a keyword. I read on another post that according to the toxicologist, CH was recent use, not chronic use. CH could be deliberate because it was impossible for Anna to determine her own dose as a feverish, dehydrated woman, as it was a liquid, and not a pill.JMO
Night, Rte! It’s 2:11AM here, and though I don’t need my beauty sleep any more as I’m getting to old to care, ( at least, I sure feel too old), my body functions are shutting down for the night.
It was funny that it was the same timing “away” from the deceased or not seeing the deceased as in Anna’s and Daniel’s deaths - like perps have some playbook they all have to memorize.
*Distance yourself from your target by at least 1.5 to 2 hours before the body may be found.*
G’night to you!
I’ll grant you that. It’s pretty bizarre. G’night for real!
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