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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: msgumshoe

The last stripper he gave millions to did just fine with the $$$ and invested them, as he expected ANS to do.

Unfortunately, she didn’t keep her end of the bargain and act like a wife. She brought boyfriends to the house, even to his hospital room. She lived in another state. If he went to visit her in CA, she’d go to her bedroom and ignore him the whole time.

She only saw him 17 days out of the whole first 6 months of their marriage and she never saw him at all once he became deathly ill. Never once in the last month of his life did she visit him and she wouldn’t return his phone calls or those of others made on his behalf.


6,941 posted on 04/20/2007 8:21:44 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: msgumshoe

I agree with you that the Marshall family will likely offer a FAIR settlement (but far less than half of the fortune) in the form of a trust for Dannielynn, but ONLY if HKS is OUT OF THE PICTURE! That’s another reason it is in Larry’s (and therefore, Dannielynn’s) best interest to make sure that HKS has NO standing in any future financial aspects related to ANS or Dannielynn. Maybe, Larry doesn’t know enough about the Marshall case (or even care about it) to fight to keep HKS out of the picture...but Virgie likely does know the history, and MAYBE, that is why she is fighting....not for her own financial gain, but for Dannielynn. So that her granddaughter profits, instead of HKS, who may have contributed to Anna and Daniel’s deaths. Plus, by completely removing HKS from EVERYTHING to do with Dannielynn and Anna’s Estate, leaves him much more vulnerable in the face of the Inquest into Daniel’s death....no money to ‘grease palms’...no legal standing to Horizons, etc...

HKS + No Money = HKS - Power & Powerful Friends...JMO of course


6,942 posted on 04/20/2007 8:27:33 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: msgumshoe
"And out of curiosity what’s the magic number ($$$$) for everyone on this board to wed a liver spotted, incontinent 90 year dirty old man in a wheelchair whose only exercise was groping your boobs?"

Well thanks very much for the invitation, but that's just among the things that I consider in my average day, nor do I care to.

Nor do I care to be characterized as being on "Team Birkhead" or "Team Virgie". I must be funny that way, but I'm on this thread for entirely different reasons.

6,943 posted on 04/20/2007 8:28:43 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

I’ve never seen any others - the Cracker Inc is just a rumor and may or may not be in The Bahamas, where I wouldn’t be able to look it up.

The ANS Interactive is just a pass-through - they run the website and get a percentage on the ANS merchandise. I can’t see that ANS or HKS owned any portion of that company, it’s fairly large (compared to Hot Smoochie Lips) and has offices here and there, with reps and real people, addresses, phones - it’s structured and handles many more things than just ANS stuff.

The Young Dubs was something HKS set up for that Irish band he promoted before he met ANS, the Young Dubliners. I’m sure it’s defunct, unless they hit it big or something and he gets royalties under that name.

Then I believe he has or had a professional corporation for his law practice, tee hee. I’m sure that’s worth a lot, if it’s not suspended and owing a bunch of CA franchise tax - oh, wait, lawyers probably don’t pay that, just retailers.


6,944 posted on 04/20/2007 8:30:44 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Larry, hopefully, wouldn’t be that naive. I wouldn’t put it past them to try though.


6,945 posted on 04/20/2007 8:31:43 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: tabor

Where did the start up money come from for Hot Smoochie Lips? It doesn’t matter if another grifter bought the name, the important thing is what happened to those assets.


6,946 posted on 04/20/2007 8:33:54 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Bronwynn; All

“Stern is the refusing to allow Virgie any legal standing to get in his way and custody/guardianship/legal anything will jeopardize his plans.”

Sorry, but if my daughter had a companion that she chose to make the executor of her estate, I would not fight it.
What right does Virgie have to Anna’s estate or custody/guardianship of the baby? If my daughter died, I would want visitation rights to her child, but never would I feel that I deserve any money that belonged to her or her child. HKS was Anna’s choice, whether it was a good choice or bad choice for Anna. That was Anna’s choice.

Yes, I found it despicable that HKS was an enabler when it came to drugs. And I disapproved of him being on the birth certificate. However, once Larry’s DNA was proven that he was the father and HKS did not fight him, I realized that throughout all this, HKS was indeed following Anna’s wishes. If she didn’t want her mom to have any more of her money, then Anna’s wishes should be carried through.

I realize we all have a difference of opinion, but that’s mine....that Virgie has no claim to anything of Anna’s, whether it’s money or Dannielynn.


6,947 posted on 04/20/2007 8:34:07 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn

No!


6,948 posted on 04/20/2007 8:34:10 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Lizarde

Ok, so then Larry’s mother can be the appointed guardian to share. Somehow I don’t think Virgie would settle for that.


6,949 posted on 04/20/2007 8:35:01 PM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I agree, and I don’t know the reasoning behind Virgie’s insistance on keeping the baby in the Bahamas. She should have been taken back to the states as soon as paternity was confirmed.


6,950 posted on 04/20/2007 8:35:33 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: Rte66
"The Young Dubs was something HKS set up for that Irish band he promoted before he met ANS, the Young Dubliners. I’m sure it’s defunct, unless they hit it big or something and he gets royalties under that name.'

You always come up with something I've never heard before. Thanks.

6,951 posted on 04/20/2007 8:40:42 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: toldyou
I'm pretty much in line with your thinking. Somehow like it or not, I think ANS would be turning over in her grave if her mother was put in charge of her estate. They *may* have been close at one time, but right or wrong they were not the last ten or so years of her life.

I believe the *mommie dearest* tape was at ANS lowest point mentally, and a combo of drugs and PMS probably added to that tape, but she wrote her will, bad as it was, in 2001 and she didn't name her mother in that will.

6,952 posted on 04/20/2007 8:41:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I do, too - I like the sound of “Wells Fargo Bank.”

LOL, I was picturing that wizened little old man who became Lucy Ricardo’s money manager on I Love Lucy. He was sooo mean to her and she had to beg for pennies.

Then she had to come up with money-making schemes with Ethel to circumvent that man. I can’t remember exactly how it went, but she somehow overheard someone in their apt building say something or write what she thought was a hot stock tip.

She and Ethel put a bunch of money into Canadian Allied Petroleum. Lost their shirts. Turns out, it was just someone’s grocery list and it was dog food — “1 Can All-Pet.”


6,953 posted on 04/20/2007 8:41:07 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: kcw2007
Why would Virgie know the Howard Marshall case history. She and ANS were not really friendly during this time. Larry probably does know as much about the case as Virgie.

Now, I would be SHOCKED if OQ hasn't investigated that case (or had his office people do it for him) and knows the case inside and out.

6,954 posted on 04/20/2007 8:44:13 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Southerngl

I didn’t like Larry using his mother as an example against Virgie. His mother has him, alive and well, and Dannielynn, and will see them a lot because they’re family.

Virgie doesn’t have her daughter, not even to be mad at, and to top it off, doesn’t have Daniel to hope to see as an older man sometime in the future. Larry’s example just discounts Virgie as a human being and implies that her losses are unimportant.

I didn’t like that.


6,955 posted on 04/20/2007 8:45:27 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66
"There never was an $88 million “offer.”

Exactly. It was the District court who decided the 88.5M award appealed from $475M in the CA Bankruptcy court. It was never an "offer". She lost in the Texas probate court entirely.

That (the 88.5M) was then appealed to the 9th Circuit court who saw Smith as trying to litigate the same issue twice and dropped it back down to ZERO.

Then Smith entered the highest court of the land, the US Supreme Court, who has remanded it back to the 9th Circuit for basically, jurisdictional issues on the appeals.

Smith went from a losing a probate contest, to intermingling a bankruptcy case, then adding a tortious interference claim. The experts claim she is trying to circumvent the sovereignty of a probate court which Congress has clearly never interferred with since the forefather's writing of the Constitution.

This is an extremely law-involved case. The "offer" expired long before any of the events above took place. It was very early on as I recall. I could dig up the amount, but at this point, it's irrelevant. There's an interesting video of Marshall's lawyer however, that I may still have. I'll look if anyone's interested.

6,956 posted on 04/20/2007 8:45:36 PM PDT by Bronwynn
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To: toldyou
"Sorry, but if my daughter had a companion that she chose to make the executor of her estate, I would not fight it."

OK. Then let's make the straw man argument fair. Would you fight it if the SAID companion had been the last known person to have been in the same room with your daughter, and your grandson, who both had passed away in the last 6 months?

6,957 posted on 04/20/2007 8:45:41 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Opri has already negotiated (so the tabloids say so could be rumor) a multi-million dollar deal for LB with the Bravo network centered around hime becoming a single father.


6,958 posted on 04/20/2007 8:46:20 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: tabor

“Whatever of Anna’s corps. still remain go into her estate, not to Howard, as far as I understand.”

Interesting comment! ‘WHATEVER’ of Anna’s corps STILL REMAIN go into her estate, NOT to Howard, as far as I understand.

You are probably EXACTLY RIGHT...’WHATEVER’ was LEFT of Anna’s Assets, HAS ALREADY gone to HKS!!! Can you prove that the person who paid the taxes to reinstate Hot Smoochie Lips has NO relationship with HKS, financial or personal? Who, or what corporation, receives the proceeds from items sold on the Anna Nicole website? If it’s a corporation, does HKS have any interest in the corporation or does he hold an office in that corporation?


6,959 posted on 04/20/2007 8:47:06 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: A Citizen Reporter

“The two of them for 5 months were running around stating he was the dad. That shows that Anna considered him Dannielynn’s guardian.”
For 5 months? IIRC that was precisely the number of months that Howie said, under oath in Seidlin’s court, that Anna had NOT taken Methadone.

Hmmmmm.

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No coincedence there, that is the length of time from Daniel’s death until ANS died.


6,960 posted on 04/20/2007 8:47:38 PM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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