Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

[mom4kittys]

Thread Number 3

[Bronwynn]

Do you think Opri has really been fired

No. As early as last week, Opri herself made a statement that she was never relieved as California counsel. She claimed she sent him the Substition of Attorney form and it was never signed and sent back to her. She would then have to file that with the court to show that she didn't abandon the client. She warned Birkhead of that on television and I'm sure he's well aware. I haven't heard differently.

A journalist (forget her name) had an interview with Bill O'Reilly the other night. Her sources claimed that the strife between Birkhead and Opri occurred because Birkhead was told (allegedly by Stern) that Opri should be doing the work pro bono. Apparently Opri and Birkhead got into it over his constant communications with Stern, against Opri's advice. Opri warned that this would only complicate matters in the long term and raise fees. It was then the argument of "fees" became an issue. I don't know how true that scenario is, but it's about as good as anything TMZ will tell you.

Opri did however, go on to say that the scandal of her bill was maliciously slanted, and explained that the lobster delivered to the house, was a gift to the people that were boarding them for weeks and weeks, for free, saving them hotel expenses, food, etc. She continued that she would be more then happy to explain the rest, much of which was due to Birkhead's own actions, after she was free to speak.

Don't be swayed by the "gentlemen" speak. It's often done in the courtroom when even referring to the most hardened of criminals. Even Pindar referred to Stern as such.

Opri was just another piece on the board, Liz. While Stern takes the high road with Lin Wood and cries foul, he's been guilty of smearing his opposition from day one and that will come out (i.e., I don't believe O'Quinn baited Stern for nothing here. Do you?). I will not be surprised in the least if the source Harvey Levin claims is not Birkhead at all, but Stern all along. Birkhead is just too naive to be dealing with the legal expertise he faces and the sooner he gets it through that thick blonde head of his, the better off he'll be. He's dancing with wolves right now and he's looking at being the next meal whether he realizes it or not.

The Opri bill was a calculated move. When she was removed from play, Virgie was up next. Note the worst possible pictures the media infuses into their headlines of the people they are currently attacking (and hoping YOU will also hate)?

[nynjanais]

You are right! This article really spells it out. KE, and according to this lawyer, HKS, should be REALLY,really worried. The potential for a wrongful death action 'way down the road -- like some 21 years or more from DL or from her guardian, is there: http://www.newyorkpersonalinjuryattorneyblog.com/2007/02/anna-nicole-smith-is-wrongful-death.html “In discussing the future, she leaves out the potential for a wrongful death action if her death is found to be caused by drug-related issues. Such an action could be brought by the surviving daughter against someone that facilitated her acquisition of the drugs (if that is what happened, it is speculative at the moment). And making matters worse, that person might be one of the people currently vying for custody of the child. It's enough to make your head spin. It is important to note that neither accidental or intentional overdose would preclude a wrongful death action (at least in New York). If one were to hand a suicidal person a gun, for example, the one that furnished the gun could be found negligent. Since it has been reported that she may have had as many as 10 different medications in her room (and assuming that drugs were the cause), and also that she had a reported history of drug problems, the provider of those drugs could be found negligent for having supplied some of the medications.”

[blueplum]

Could be he got a mechanic’s lien on the house and there are some docs somewhere transferring title to him, to satisfy the lien

wouldn't that be held up by the illiquidity of the estate? If the boat is purchased in a name other than that which purchased the 'coral' house, it could not be 'attached' without a formal court order, could it? I've personally found it very interesting indeed that the work on the 'coral' house ceased the morning of Anna's death, when she wasn't pronounced dead until mid-afternon.....perhaps because the 'supervisor' King Eric wasn't on the job site or something else? dunno

[windchime]

I don’t know how it happened the way it did. I was in the car for a while and the talk is the college administration is going to have to explain the almost two hour delay in the first shooting and the email to warn students at 9:29am.

[Bronwynn]

However, how many would want an infrequently sober, chaotically inclined, mercurial person to carry their baby?

Makes a case for Birkhead's immaturity, doesn't it?

But further then that, Birkhead thinks he knows what he's dealing with. Couple that with his own lack of years or legal expertise, he's a babe in the woods. But as with most young people, you're never going to get the warning through until he gets burned enough. The thing is, he has been burned already, so I'm left with the stupidity factor to contemplate.

Just last night I was sent this video a friend found that may give an inkling as to what Birkhead thinks he's dealing with. Look at that video and tell me that you see any form of concern or maturity anywhere? These are the people he knew and thinks he faces. I hope his family takes a good look at it too and steps up to the plate, because someone should.

Kimmy Pukes In A Hat

... while Stern invites his sister by phone.

[Rte66]

Just dropping in for a second - break time in taxes. Stopped to watch a little about the VaTech shootings and they went back to The Insider (wasn’t going to watch this stuff anymore if I could help it!).

Anyway, they were showing the same Dannielynn Retrospective as shown in the ET photos in a post earlier today.

(BTW, I just can’t stand that 2nd photo from the left - every time it’s shown either online or on TV, I just want to spit - it looks like it has been airbrushed or something and DL’s face just looks very, very weird, like a prednisone “moonface” or just strange, not her pretty little self.)

I found out this time around that the “My Mom Rocks” T-shirt photo shoot with Gerlene was from Valentine’s Day, Feb. 14th! “We” were led to believe those were her newest photos from that day - in April. Grrrr, fooled again.

No, of course they have “newer” photos and video to show us “now” - coming tomorrow. She is *much fatter* and much bigger! I’m sure this is when Larry got to meet her, but I didn’t see him in any of the photos - how awful if they covered the meeting and made him stay out of the photos, so Howie can make all the money. Another “grrrrr.”

There was some other thing that was said that I didn’t quite catch - Pat O’Brien sounds like “blah blah blah yada yada yada” to me, so it’s hard to pay attention. Something about Larry Birkhead and a 4-year-old little girl in Hollywood we’re going to meet.

Have no idea what that was about and this awful show doesn’t repeat here. Maybe the same thing will be on ET and it’ll make sense. Oh no, I can’t watch that, yuck. *oh well - couldn’t have been too important*

[Sacajaweau]

I think you're right about OQ. Howard hit on her hard with that video and I'm still thinking that Trump made a phone call.

If he did, God bless him. If he didn't, God bless him anyways for speaking up about Howard.

Ya think God understood that one.

Sometimes when I don't receive what I want, I think perhaps I wasn't clear in my request. I told him I wished I'd win the lottery before I reach 100. His message was...I'll win in 2043. I'll be 99. :-0

[nynjanais]

Ghastly video. Frightening in it’s implications. I agree. Naïve is too mild. Stupid is much more appropriate.

[mom4kittys]

It could have saved a lot of people if they had done something sooner.

[sodpoodle]

“””””LB’s not much worse than many young fathers and this might be his finest hour””””

Unfortunately, in the last few decades, society and the ‘media’ have encouraged coarse, irresponsible behavior in our sons and daughters. The cost is only deferred - as Larry has discovered.

[Bronwynn]

Heh! Sorry, I forgot to warn you not to watch it if you were anticipating dinner soon.

[Sacajaweau]

If I were Larry, I wouldn't want to be in a picture that HOWARD gets paid for with his exclusive cr**. Frankly, I hope ET goes under because of this.

It's their "I hate Mommy video" that was put out to damage Virgie. They've played a big role in this and maybe they should have thought it out a little bit.

[TrishaSC]

That wasn't Anna at that commitment ceremony. It was Lamb Chop.

[TexKat]

I beg your pardon. A lot of people on this thread had a very high opinion of Mr. Hogan when he first appeared on GVS's show.

Lol, no need to beg. There is a big difference in a lot and we all.

Before Mr. Hogan appeared on Greta's show I did not know him from Adam and still don't. We only heard the sound bites that they wanted us to hear. Not enough too judge anyones character.

[TexKat]

"But, Mommy, I'm just naughty cause I love you."

LOL, that was a good one. I can just picture it.

Like they say kids say and do the darndest thing.

I laugh at people that write books on how to raise others children, especially those writers that have never been parents themselves.

It is an experience and a joyful experience at that.

I use to cry when I had to spank mine. I have three. I soon got out of that crying mess by the time the second one came along, lol!

[sodpoodle]

“”””So the contract was one session a month?
Now, remember, Anna went to the Bahamas to get away from the media.””””

Saca - how cruel of you!! Howie and Bon-Bon have to eat!

I hope that they will soon be on a diet of crow - courtesy of O’Quinn - and served by jail inmates with dirty fingernails.

[Bronwynn]

Thank you. It’s a pleasure to meet you as well. :)

[sodpoodle]

“””Look at that video and tell me that you see any form of concern or maturity anywhere?””

That is a video of ultimate morons - approaching 40 years of age. What a waste of oxygen. I hereby support AlGore’s efforts to reduce gas emissions. None of these cretins should be allowed to drive in or operate motor vehicles as a means of transporting their sorry bodies around the earth - their mere existence is polluting the planet.

[blueplum]

I thought Larry said he only went to Myrtle Beach once when ANS was there and he didn’t see her, just visited his relatives and then went back to wherever he came there from - not sure if he came from L.A. or had been to KY first or had gone back to KY on way home to CA.

cc: Lizarde

from what I understand, Anna went to Myrtle Beach with Larry sometime around April 2005 to meet some of his family who live there (vacation home??)(she had also gone to meet some Larry famiy in Kentucky previously and didn't like how Larry treated her in the presence of his family); she apparently stayed with the Birkhead family for at least a few days. There was some sort of party at another house, they all went, and she was introduced to G.Ben Thompson. Anna was rumored to have asked around about G.Ben's wealth, and subsequently dumped Larry like a hot potato, returned to Myrtle Beach in May '05 and hooked up with G. Ben (Laurie Payne affidavit). (somewhere around here, Daniel was thrown out of the house?? not sure of month)

Anna stayed with G.Ben from May,June and July, and was at the Myrtle Beach bar on 7/18/05, when a spurned Larry, showed up wearing a t-shirt that said 'i love my girlfriend'....at the bar he apparently caused a scene because Anna was ignoring him; Anna allegedly text-messaged Stern to come 'save her' and at some point Anna slapped Larry and told him to bugger off, and left shortly thereafter with G.Ben, Stern and SugarPie. Stern alleged that the smear msgs posted on Anna's website, were made by Larry. I'm not sure when the timeframe would be when he allegedly took Anna's passport and credit cards, but shortly thereafter, Anna and G.Ben flew down to the Florida Keys, where she spent the remainder of July '05 (Lauri Payne affidavit). Anna later wrote about the passport/creditcard incident in her NE column.

I'm not sure who she was with August '05 or October '05; by September '05, Anna was back in Vegas at the Beacher's Hardrock (photo of poledancing inside limo) and spent considerable funds for lap dances at Sapphire Gentlemen's Club. Laurie Payne stated that Anna spent Nov/Dec '05 both in Myrtle Beach and the Keys with G.Ben. Anna was apparently back in Vegas for her birthday in November '05 with G.Ben(?) and the Shelleys collaberate that Stern, Anna and Daniel celebrated Christmas '05 with them in Myrtle Beach (Daniels' 'you aint got any either' quip to Stern)

As for Larry's statements, well, he's either leaving huge holes where he doesn't 'look good', or he embellishes, or he just plain forgets and leaves things out - Larry claiming he didn't 'see' Anna when he went to Myrtle Beach in Jul '05 may have been a way to get out of explaining the alleged immaturity of stealing her credit cards/passport and the scene at the bar Jul 18 '05. Maybe he hung out in Myrtle Beach trying to stalk her, who knows? If he was instead, claiming he didn't 'see' Anna in Jul '06, it could be, that Anna knew he was in town and that's why she ended up back in the Florida Keys in Jul '06 at G.Ben's home again where she apparently made her 'I'm pregnated' video. However, I was under the impression that during the early summer of '06, Larry was 'occupied' trying to break into acting at age 35 (rofl) and signing Opri up and inking a 'based on paternity' Million-dollar-deal, so not sure how the timing would fit with him being in Myrtle Beach Jul '06. My gut says he was referring to Jul '05, not '06.

In any case, Anna bounced back and forth between Myrtle Beach and Florida Keys between May 11 '06 and Jul 18 '06, with time out in Jun '06 for some 'cosmetic work' by Dr. Levy, in Beverly Hills. Levy sent a painkiller and 'longevity drugs' to her in the Bahamas on Aug 08 '06, so we know she arrived in the Bahamas enough prior to that date to have a mailing address, which would mean the 7/18/06 date would be correct for arrival. it would also coorelate with Daniel's hospitalization, which Stern said was 'the exact day' Anna moved to the Bahamas. During that time, the Shelleys were also with her and claimed her drug use was down to 'methadone' and 'zanax'; she was happy, content and enjoying life for a change (at least, while Stern wasn't around). It was also around this time that the pictures of her and Daniel playing in the ocean were taken by Gina Shelley family.

In the Larry King interview, Larry states that he was with Anna for 'two and a half years', then three sentences later says, 'one and a half years' then says it was 'one and a half years plus 5 months pregnancy' (but Anna was only 3-1/2 months pregnant when she went to the detox Larry didn't know about in April '06 and Larry had also missed the 'second' sonogram).

I simply don't see much of ANY timeframe when Anna was 'exclusive' with Larry - how much time did it take for Larry to move to Los Angeles at Anna's invitation to be her 'exclusive'? did he have household items and a moving van, or just a 'duffle bag' ?? did he have to give notice at his then-current job, or was he unemployed? Don't know yet.

In any case, Larry was living with Anna in Anna's home between July/Aug/Sep '04 thru-Dec '04 (if you believe the Vegas magician, he says he had an affair with her that lasted 5 weeks from Newyears '05 thru early Feb '05 - so she would have had to stay on in LV if that occurred), and then Feb '05 thru Apr '05? maybe October '05, and then Dec 31 '05 thru Feb/Mar '06, but was out of the house by April 15 '06 traffic ticket. Not sure the exact date Larry got his 'own' apartment??

Larry stated he 'didn't know if' she was "back" in detox in May '06 when he 'noticed' she wasn't around. If you add up all the gaps in their relationship, it seems the total time they spent together was about 10 months, maybe, out of a 22 possible months (aug '04-Apr '06), with a generous sprinkling of other men in between.

I believe April 15 '06/April 16 '06, was the last time Birkhead actually saw Anna, so his claim that he was with her in May '06 is invalid (per Shelley's statement), as is his claim he was with her for '5 months' of pregnancy. (which is why I'm putting the detox from late March for two weeks thru the early part of April '06, and Stern putting Larry's clothes/stuff out in the driveway either Feb or Mar '06, before the 'second' sonogram and before the 'detox'.)

Larry hasn't been clear, if the 'barefoot and pregnant' hotel rescue on Apr 15, 06 was before, or after, the detox. Larry said in Seidlin's court that Stern told Anna 'me or him' but he had admitted on Larry King previously that he was the one who pressured Anna 'several times' to tell Stern, 'me or him'. Obviously, the 'barefoot rescue' came after an incident of 'me or him' by one (or both) of the men. We do know that the Shelleys picked her up and flew her out to Myrtle Beach May 11 '06, which is why I'm tentatively putting the detox in late March '06.

Is this timeline about what you and everyone else have also?