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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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I remember extended discussion about the use of a baby bottle in drug use. I think you posted a picture of how it was employed with an article, but I can’t find it now. :(
In the final reports released by Tiger and Perper, did you ever see the baby bottle mentioned?
With ANS’s obsession with being childlike I can easily see her self medicating with a baby bottle full of Chloral Hydrate mixed with the beverage of her choice.
It is a shame that suite was not treated like a crime scene...
No, nada!
The news HKS may not fight custody as reported by TMZ, is not setting well with HKS supporters over at TMZ. I browsed the comments and it’s like a swarm of african bee’s over there.
I’ll go check it out. So thy are in favor of keeping a child from her bilogical dad? Incredible.
DNA test results for Dannielynn are to be announced Tuesday.
Howard Won't Fight for Custody
Just in: Anna Nicole's partner says he wants what's best for Dannielynn.
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Sources told ET Sunday that HOWARD K. STERN is more than prepared for whatever Tuesday's DNA paternity results may show, and for the possibility that he could lose custody of baby DANNIELYNN to photographer LARRY BIRKHEAD.
"If Larry Birkhead is confirmed to be Dannielynn's biological father, Howard will not challenge custody," our sources say. "His love for her will not change, irrespective of the results. Howard will act in Dannielynn's best interest, because he loves her and would want a smooth transition to protect her, as she is deeply bonded to those who have been with her since birth.
"While Howard continues to believe and hope that he is Dannielynn's biological father, he wants to be involved in her life, regardless of paternity. He wants to share the memories of her mother as the person who knew Anna best and all she wanted for Dannielynn."
Sources also tell ET that Howard would do "whatever is necessary" to help Larry keep Anna's estranged mother, VIRGIE ARTHUR, from obtaining custody of Dannielynn.
Virgie recently filed papers in the Bahamas hoping to become Dannielynn's guardian ad litem. Her attorney tells ET that Virgie wants to be the court-appointed guardian for the Bahamian proceedings and is also seeking long-term custody. A hearing is set for April 13th regarding this matter.
ET's sources add, "Howard was not part of the paternity lawsuit filed while Anna Nicole was alive. The first person to challenge Howard on custody was Virgie Arthur -- not Larry Birkhead. Howard is dedicated to Virgie Arthur not having custody of Dannielynn. He is well aware of how Anna Nicole felt about 'Mommy Dearest' and Anna's feelings were clear regarding Virgie Arthur being anywhere near Dannielynn.
"Speculation that this is somehow about money for Howard is misguided and wrong. Howard has never made a TV or book deal even though he is the one who knew Anna Nicole best.
"Howard wants Anna Nicole to be remembered as an icon like MARILYN MONROE, and he knows a lot of damage has been done to her image in the past two months. This restoration of Anna's image is important for Dannielynn and the views she will have of her mother as she grows up. He also wants to make sure that only Dannielynn profits from Anna Nicole's name, likeness and estate."
But even if Larry is found to be Dannielynn's biological father on Tuesday, Court TV correspondent MICHEL BRYANT tells us that could set up another long court battle over custody.
"That won't mean Larry goes from here, gets the baby and goes to L.A.," he tells ET. "It will take a while."
HKS has supporters? Or are these messages posted just to give “balance” and make the discussion more heated?
His statement that she was off of it for 5 months was a big fat lie.
Bet he's really, really sorry that he ever knocked on Seidlin's door. It's where we found out stuff..."And it's on the record".
I think Wood is being hired as a defense attorney...because O'Quinn is going to file a defamation suit on Virgie's behalf for the "I hate Mommie video" and the cutsie Howard spurted at Anna's funeral.
“...the registered nurse started CPR,”
Moe gave an interview to Greta on Feb 27 which should have raised some Seminole eyebrows. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255001,00.html
Moe’s description of ANS the last time he saw her is different than what he described to Perper.
BIG MOE: She was I saw her moving around a little bit and she seemed tired, she was sleeping.
He told Perper that he thought she was moving, but, couldn’t be certain.
He seemed certain when he spoke to Greta.
He detailed to Greta the CPR tecniques his wife was utilizing-
BIG MOE: Just coincidentally, she’s a nurse and she was there and she started administering CPR and giving rescue breaths ..
Then Moe goes into the ridiculous fantasy story about cell phones bought in Dade, can’t be used to call 911 in Broward.
Then Moe describes his entrance into the room-
BIG MOE: .... I opened up the door and I saw my wife on top of her and I gently moved her out of the way. Pulled the cover back and looked at Anna’s face...
But,...wasn’t his wife just doing mouth to mouth ?? With covers over ANS’s face ?
And Moe “gently moved his wife out of the way “ -in a code, gentle movements are a waste of valuable time. In a life threatening situation you don’t want EMT’s acting according to Miss Manners.
Then Moe says this “ I thought about, was picking her up and putting her on the floor so I could properly do the CPR if I had to.”
If he had to ??? What else would he be doing ?
Was he just going to watch while tired Taz continued her 40 minute over the covers CPR ?
On Feb 23, Moe said similar things to LKL.http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0702/23/lkl.01.html
BIG MOE”: ... I pushed off the covers off the bed and I looked at her. And Anna has very voluptuous, beautiful lips, and full lips. And when I saw her, her lips didn’t look right. They looked kind of pale and blue. “
So-Moe again validates that ANS was under covers while Taz was doing CPR .
Moe added more details for LKL-
“ So I slapped her on the face and tried to wake her up. “
But, didn’t Moe just say that his wife was doing CPR ?
He stops the CPR to slap ANS to try and wake her up ??
He again validates that he had to put her on the floor
“ just in case I had to do CPR.”
You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure out from Moe’s interviews that Taz was not doing CPR when he first got to the room and that Moe was the first person to begin CPR-40 minutes after he got the call from Taz.
Yeh....Showing videos of Anna whacked out of her head in the time between Danny’s death and her death was really, really good for her image.
I almost forgot about this story of my younger daughter, who is now 31 years old. When I gave birth to her in June, my husband had to return, within two days, to his military assignment in Thialand. I was 700 miles from any family, so there was only my four year old and me who were around her.
Six months later, when he returned to the United States and us, he went to hold her, and she took one look at him and screamed! It was then when we realized that a man had never held her before. He had to take the “getting aquainted” with her gradually, but as I look back, it didn’t take long at all. Babies adjust.
I hope that if Larry is the father, that he stays at the house for a while, and that he takes one of the nannys back with him until Dannielynn adjusts to new caretakers.
“It is a shame that suite was not treated like a crime scene...”
You are so right.
Neither did I, I wondered if I missed it somehow, but you read everything thoroughly, so if it was there you would have seen it.
Maybe they are the HKS trolls reported to be surfing the internet.
Just goes to show the Seminoles did NOT want to find anything prosecutable... anyone half awake would have really put Moe and all his public statements under a microscope and questioned him personally about all his conflicting statements — and Taz’s conflicting statements, too.. then throw Brigette into the mix.
Saw th TMZ story re: STern not going to fight Larry B if DNA tests show LB to be Dannielynn's father....but will join with LB to see that Virgie does not get custody of the baby.
Well - that is good news. For Larry.
It could be the total determined effort to make Virgie the truly "bad guy" in all this is moving to its next level - primarily because
a) Stern knows Virgie will not stand for Stern to have any part in custody of that baby
b) Stern knows that Virgie is the one who will likely continue legal action to bring justice for her dead child and grandchild - meaning chances the FL case could be reopened and that the Bahamas case may bring out bad news that he wants refocused onto Virgie and not on him....since it could lead to real trouble for HKS.
c) Stern wants to try to be sure the LB does NOT connect with Virgie re: joint custody for the baby even AS HER GRANDMOTHER!!!!! .....and finally
d) Stern wants Larry to have no part in the wrongful death action / legal investigations / lawsuits that should come Stern's way and/or KE's way after all the facts are out re: both Anna's death and Daniel's death. Therefore, Virgie would be isolated and not being wealthy could find very little resources to do what it will take to get the questions answered that as of today remain unanswered re: both Anna's and Daniel's deaths.
One last thing - and then I am actually going to shut up and finish watching the part of the Sound of Music I didn't see last night.....
I was watching one of the "investigative" programs earlier today where a woman went missing - and they couldn't figure what happened to you. She had been out walking and never came home.
Turned out an investigator just happened to find out the wife of the man living next door to this woman ALSO went missing and they couldn't find her either.
The police investigator said, "When you have one occurrance it's one thing. When you have two occurrances in similar circumstances, you have to think there could be a link between them."
I want to say with all the clarity I can muster:
The only reason I became interested in this Anna Nicole / Daniel Smith death investigation (besides the baby) is because both deaths happened under similar circumstances.
As the police guy says - TWO occurances under similar circumstances INDICATE THERE MAY BE A LINK BETWEEN THE TWO....and that link is Howard K. Stern!
He was THERE at both deaths.
As we know know PRESCRIPTION DRUGS were involved in both deaths.
Both people were found not breathing.
There are more duplications - maybe others can post them (of course we don't know all the facts YET even though Daniel died BEFORE Anna).
When Daniel died - I really didn't take notice. But when Anna Nicole died - it was this "double occurrance" under similar circumstances and with the same person around - that immediately made my amateur investigative antennae go up.
So far nothing has been shown to say there is not a link between their deaths, just the opposite.
And if Daniel could be re-exhumed and checked for Chloral Hydrate in his system - we might have THE LINK exposed.
Even "Helped Anna to the bathroom" is a duplicate...and about 2 to 2/2 hours before death.
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