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Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys
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But, Howard should remember that Perper said his conclusion could change depending on the outcome of Daniel's inquest. Howard does NOT want that inquest to occur!! He'll do anything to stop it.
In fact, I'd say that the inquest was the deciding factor in Anna's death as Anna was probably talking about giving Guardianship to Daniel when he reached age 21 and cutting Howard out because she had "grave doubts" about him. She likely confided in KE and you know the rest.
Sac, do you think LB could want that phony birth certificate to threaten HKS with perjury and for signing a legal document dishonestly? This might possibly have helped him do a little manipulating of his own over HKS?
Wasn't it reported that Shelly and Thompson turned over the remaining items that Shelly took from The Horizon to the Sheriff of Horry County? Ford said ANS asked him to take these things from the home. If that's true, it's evidence that in her more lucid moments she had lost trust in HKS.
Did any of you notice how Greta talked over her guest attorneys and Mark Fuhrman? I noticed she did add that she supported HKS on this one, which indicates she didn't support him on other acts. But Ted's "hero" remarks were completely off the wall, and makes you question his intelligence. He is a sharp dresser tho'!
Note: filing a lawsuit does not make a person a hero. Howie has done nothing that I ever heard of that is remotely heroic. Just the opposite. And no, I do not despise him because he looks like something plucked from a Halloween display.
Howard went straight to the closet. I think he stepped on a little stool and put his hand up on the shelf and said all the "legal documents" were gone including the baby's birth certificate (which would be a copy at best).
He then opened a book of pictures and IIRC on the right hand side of the page was Pindar and Anna in bed. I believe it was the same picture that got into the news. We assumed that Thompson gave it to the press but I'm not sure we know that.
Back to the closet. Howard never looked along the shelf or anywhere to see if they were displaced. In other words, the tour was just another video by Howard which will serve as "evidence" at some point.
I consider Thompson's words "at the right time as a GOOD sign. And I do indeed believe Anna told him to "get the stuff" before she left for Florida because she was leaving her protection (Dannie Lynn) in the Bahamas.
The video of her bust implant is no big deal. It does keep Howard busy doing things he doesn’t want to be doing and sometimes it’s that little “too much on the plate” that causes a misstep.
Mark Furman’s attitude is likely: Loose lips sink ships!! It;s what he’s looking for!
Of course I’m writing just to keep the thread alive ‘cause I don’t search all over the place for new news on this and don’t have cable so I miss much. But, I’m determined not to have cable or a cell phone.
LOL That's a good description of him!
I'm always suspicious about anything HKS does. It seems he always has an ulterior motive to benefit himself or to cover up his devious acts.
My feeling also. If he said it rained outside, I would double check.
I am thinking of sending Greta an email. She apparently pays attention to them. She has shown more interest in Anna Nicole and Daniel's killings than any one else.
I believe it was Shane Gibson in bed with Anna and not Pindar, wasn't it?
Yup....Shane Gibson. My apologies to Mr. Pindar. I think he’s the best of the best. Thank you much for correcting me.
No apology needed. Just a slip-up we’ve all made! Dealing with as many people as we do on this thread, it’s a miracle we haven’t inadvertently used their names in the wrong place more often. :-)
A part of it, yes. I heard her. Didn't hear Ted. Noticed that Fuhrman had nothing further to say at the end.
As another FReeper comments later in this thread, with DL's lst birthday coming up in early September, we will hear more. Time for us to e-mail Greta, I think.
Sorta like chunking a pebble in the pond - waiting for ripples.
Seems to have produced a few.
For our review:
From PEOPLE Magazine:
Pathologist: Meds Killed Daniel Smith
WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 27, 2006 05:10 PM EDT
THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 28, 2006 08:10 AM EDT UPDATED
By Nicole Weisensee Egan
INFPathologist: Meds Killed Daniel Smith | Anna Nicole Smith
The death of Anna Nicole Smith’s 20-year-old son Daniel was caused by a lethal combination of methadone, Zoloft and Lexapro, pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht has revealed to PEOPLE.
Wecht said the drugs caused the cardiac dysrhythmia that led to Daniel’s death. Wecht got the toxicology results from National Medical Services in Willow Grove, Pa., on Wednesday.
“In my opinion it’s an accidental death,” Wecht tells PEOPLE.
Wecht said that because Daniel was taking three drugs and not a large dose of a single drug, paired with the fact that he was celebrating a happy occasion with his mother, those factors point to a “tragic accidental drug death.”
Asked why Daniel may have been taking methadone, which is sometimes used to help heroin addicts end their addiction, Wecht said the drug is “a legitimate prescription drug for pain relief” and that Daniel had “no known history of morphine addiction.”
* The Anna Nicole Smith Tragedy
Wecht was not sure if Daniel had a prescription for methadone or for Zoloft, an antidepressant, though it is known that he’d been prescribed the antidepressant Lexapro.
Anna Nicole Smith and her family hired Wecht privately to perform a second autopsy after Daniel’s death.
Daniel Smith died in his mother’s hospital room Sept. 10 while visiting her in the Bahamas three days after she gave birth to a baby girl named Dannielynn Hope.
Smith’s longtime lawyer, Howard K. Stern, said Tuesday that he is the father of the little girl.
Meanwhile, photographer Larry Birkhead, who has said he dated Smith for about two years, claims on his Web site, “I maintain that I am the proud father, and look forward to a paternity test.”
On Sept. 9, Daniel Smith arrived in Nassau to see his mother, with whom he’d always been extremely close. The family, including his newborn sister, spent time bonding in the hospital room that night. Daniel was seen tending to his mother around 6:20 a.m. on Sept. 10 – but at 9:38 a.m. that day Anna Nicole woke up to find her son unresponsive.
Doctors were immediately summoned and tried for 22 minutes to revive Daniel without success. He was pronounced dead at 10:05 a.m.
Days after Daniel’s death Anna Nicole’s Bahamian attorney, Michael Scott, described her as “overwhelmed” by grief. “She’s trying to come to grips with the depths of her despair,” he said.
Stern, who appeared on Larry King Live Tuesday, said Anna Nicole’s baby daughter is “the one thing that is really keeping her going.
“Through it all, even with all the pain, she has been a great mom, a very attentive mom,” he said.
Another People report with extra info:
Inquest Into Daniel Smith’s Death to Begin Monday
FRIDAY MARCH 23, 2007 04:45 PM EDT
By Siobhan Morrissey
With Anna Nicole Smith’s autopsy report due to be released on Monday, the official inquest into the cause of her son Daniel’s death is set to move forward in the Bahamas the same day.
Smith’s companion and longtime lawyer, Howard K. Stern, will be the star witness when the inquest convenes to review Daniel’s death in September in a room where Smith and Stern were present, say officials familiar with the case.
Visiting his mother three days after she gave birth to a baby girl, Daniel, 20, was found dead in her hospital room on Sept. 10, just 11 hours after his arrival in the Bahamas. An autopsy identified the cause of death as respiratory depression brought on by a lethal combination of drugs – including enough methadone to kill someone eight times over.
One question sure to be on observers’ minds is whether Daniel’s death parallels that of Smith, who died suddenly on Feb. 8 during a trip with Stern to South Florida. Doctors in the Bahamas have acknowledged that Smith used methadone, even during her pregnancy.
Speaking of Stern, Chief Magistrate Roger Gomez, who plans to preside over the inquest, tells PEOPLE: “He’s the only one who’s still alive now of the three people who were in the room [where Daniel died]. He’s the only one left who can help us with our investigation.”
Says Michael Von Zamft, an assistant state attorney in Miami familiar with the investigations into Daniel’s and Smith’s deaths: “There is a lot here that is questionable. The son dies; she dies. ... And Stern was around at both times.”
Stern has denied supplying Daniel with methadone, and his sister Bonnie has rejected allegations from Smith’s family that Stern made drugs too easily available to Smith. “Howard only wanted the best for Daniel and Anna,” she says. “He did not provide drugs or have anything to do with it. Anna did what she wanted to do.”
* The Anna Nicole Smith Tragedy
The inquest could last three weeks and will determine whether any criminal acts contributed to Daniel’s death. Among the key questions that are likely to pursued: When and how did methadone end up in his system?
Gaither Ben Thompson, who knew Daniel and was one of the last to see him alive the night before he died, says Daniel was in great spirits after seeing his newborn sister for the first time. “I don’t think Daniel took his own life,” says Thompson, rejecting one theory in the case.
Thompson, who dated Smith in 2005 and spent time with her, Stern and Daniel in the private room of Nassau’s Doctors Hospital on the evening of Sept. 9, adds: “If someone else gave him drugs – either before he left California or after he arrived – I don’t think it was intentionally to hurt him at all.”
Police records show that the morning Daniel died, a nurse found a partially dissolved and scored methadone tablet in the bed Stern had slept in. According to the reports, Stern said Daniel had also slept in that bed, but nurses who entered Room 201 recalled no one but Stern in that bed.
The records also show that Stern left the room a few hours before Daniel died. A nurse places him out of the room at 4 a.m. Nurse Odumade Adenike noted that sometime after 2 a.m. Stern went to the nursing station and asked what restaurants were open – despite having already purchased soda, sandwiches and chicken strips at a 24-hour mini-mart an hour earlier.
“He left and returned back about 4:00 a.m., but he had nothing in his hand and went straight to the room,” Adenike told police.
The inquest may also seek to understand what happened to the jeans Daniel wore when he died.
Police collected the other items Daniel had been wearing: a brown t-shirt, white undershirt and blue underwear. Thompson’s son-in-law, Ford Shelley, told police that the day Daniel died, he went to Stern’s home in the Bahamas and saw Stern pick up two white tablets that had fallen from Daniel’s jeans pocket and take them into a bathroom. Ford then heard the toilet flush.
(Ron Rale, one of Smith’s attorneys and a former law partner of Stern’s, says all of Shelley’s assertions are false. “We deny everything,” says Rale. “It’s ridiculous.”)
Photos also surfaced last month showing bottles of liquid methadone that were allegedly found a few weeks ago in a small refrigerator in Smith’s bedroom; Stern has claimed the photos were staged.
Rumors that Daniel suffered from a heart condition are put to rest by his medical records. His California doctors found Daniel had a “regular rhythm” and “no murmur [or] gallop.”
Instead, says Bruce Goldberger, director of toxicology at the University of Florida College of Medicine, “The potent drugs attacked his central nervous system and led to a shutdown of his respiratory system – essentially he fell asleep and died.”
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