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Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys
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Thread Number Two
Of COURSE she was on something in that clown video. Howard found it funny and also said he could make money off of it. He asked her if was a mushroom trip, so it was not likely she was on methadone for this video. He knows what meds she has--he normally picks them up for her and has many of them in his name. Why would anyone find being on a mushroom trip "funny" at 8 months pregnant? And what kind of person does that make HK$? It doesn't say much about ANS either, but she's dead.
The move to Dubai (IMO) was simply more of HKS attempts to pimp ANS.... when they ran out of people they could pimp her to it seems he just moved her on to more fertile ground. What a piece of work that man is.
but it's better than BonBon's "15 years."
Thank you--you said it much better tham I ever could have! Some people don't see prima facia in anything.
I am so sorry. I thought the only actual date I gave was 1991- the year Anna Nicole stated she first met HM.
My previous post must have been poorly worded and I apologize. I was just trying to think out loud and figured you would know with all your extensive work on the chronology.
Also, I read that she actually only lived under the same roof with Marshall a small part of the time she was married to him and spent some of the time during their marriage in CA house he purchased for her while she pursued a modeling/acting career.
On June 27, 1994, Smith, 26, and Marshall, 89, married in Houston.[22] This resulted in a great deal of gossip about her marrying him for his money.[23] Though she reportedly never lived with him,[24] Smith maintained that she loved her husband, and age did not matter to her.[citation needed] Thirteen months after his marriage to Smith, Marshall died on August 4, 1995, in Houston.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Nicole_Smith#Marriage_to_Marshall
"Here is what jurors have been told
that J. Howard Marshall, II
gave to Vickie Lynn Marshall
during their entire relationship,
not just the marriage. $6,607,000
Modeling/Acting Clothes - $699,000
Jewelry - $2.804,000
LA House - $597,000
Mercedes - $82,000
Misc. Disbursments - $439,000
Ranch - $693,000
Ranch Furnishings - $230,000"
http://factweb.net/WhatVickie.html
"Within weeks of J. Howard Marshall's death, Smith and her husband's son, E. Pierce Marshall, battled over her claim for half of her late husband's US$1.6 billion estate. She temporarily joined forces with J. Howard's other son, James Howard Marshall III, whom the elder Howard had disowned. Howard III claimed J. Howard orally promised him a portion of his estate; like Smith, Howard III was also left out of J. Howard's will.[25] The case has gone on for more than a decade, producing a highly publicized court battle in Texas and several judicial decisions that have gone both for and against Smith in that time.[26]"
(I thought that it was sometime during this part of that case that Stern actually lifted the PM confidential document because it was presented in the bankruptcy case in CA.)
"In 1996, Smith filed for bankruptcy in California as a result of a $850,000 judgment against her for sexual harassment of an employee. As any money potentially due to her from the Marshall estate was part of her potential assets, the bankruptcy court involved itself in the matter.[27]"
And Judge Mike Wood in Houston admonished HSK for his action.
"In July 2001, Houston judge Mike Wood affirmed the jury findings in the probate case by ruling that Smith was entitled to nothing and ordered Smith to pay over $1 million in fees and expenses to Pierce's legal team."
As far as pivotal on the bankruptcy case, perhaps I misunderstood the importance of this statement:
"Stern transmitted the document to California where Bankruptcy Magistrate Samuel L. Bufford reportedly posted the protected document on his website to be viewed by the general public for a period. This incident and others by both Stern and Bufford continue to raise mysteriously unanswered questions about collusion between Anna Nicole’s attorneys and the Bankruptcy court in the California case."
http://factweb.net/SternReprimand.htm
My saying it was pivotal was perhaps misstated, but I thought maybe it was pivotal because of the following reasons:
1. "In 1996, Smith filed for bankruptcy in California as a result of a $850,000 judgment against her for sexual harassment of an employee." So if that document helped the LA judge to render the decision he did - I thought it was possibly pivotal in helping ANS to avoid paying out the $850,000 judgment.
2. "Smith claimed J. Howard orally promised her half of his estate if she married him and a Los Angeles bankruptcy judge awarded her $449,754,134," and the confidential document of assests of PM that was given to that court aided the LA judge in his decision. - Why I incorrectly thought that the document was pivotal in rendering that decision.
3. The decision rendered in Los Angeles bankruptcy court was used to continue litigation in probate court and appeals all the way to the Supreme Court hearing/decision.
More simply stated, maybe HKS entered the picture as early as when she was in CA living in house purchased for her by HM while they were still married (194-1995) and she went there to pursue modeling/acting.
And just was wondering if she could have even met HKS even earlier - like during her GUESS jeans endorsement (1993-1994) if she was in LA for any reason during the year(s) of that ad campaign on photo shoots, business meetings or whatever just prior to marrying Marshall.
Again, I am sorry for any misunderstanding and confusion I caused. I was just trying to think out loud in response to your post on dates and try to figure out when HKS might have entered the picture.
I will just keep thoughts like those to myself and let other posters, like yourself, who have done extensive research and organization that I appreciate and admire, share with us.
Thank you for all your work :)
Bravo! (claps hands)
Yeah, no doubt all those other opiates she seemed to have preferred were pushed aside in favor of the Methadone. Uh, not exactly. Dr. Kapoor stated that he prescribed her Methadone for PAIN.
Dr. Michael Baden the famed Pathologist on tv has stated that it's not the best pain med because it is so highly addictive and there are more appropriate ones, but the key thing he said was that it would otherwise be used as substitute for HEROIN. Period. Not a bunch of other opiates. But HEROIN. And she wasn't a Heroin addict, he said.
Oh, and you say - almost casually - well, maybe she wasn't wasted in the clown video, but probably on Methadone. Awwwwwwww. Just on Methadone. How comforting. No wonder Howard felt like the whole thing was such a lark.
Oh, almost forgot...yeah, the Psychiatrist friend Dr KE; did you notice she asked for opiates AND Methadone in her faxes to Kapoor and in her contacts with the Bahamian pharmacy where she tried to get all these meds when Kapoor said no?? So much for "SUBSTITUTING Methadone for all those other opiates she seemed to prefer"...
I was talking about the death of her son. I don't think she gave a hoot about all the other stuff.
I do, sometimes. I don't, a lot of times. Probably why I love mysteries and in my life, I learned the hard way not to take everything at face value.
Yup. I've said since day one that's what the plan was.
Wonder where Dannielynn was going to be during all of this. Maybe she would have tried to "reconcile" with Virgie and throw Danni her way...at least until she turned 7 or so. History does have a way of repeating itself.
It would be pretty hard to make decisions about anything in life if you can't see anything at face value.
Mark Fuhrman pointed out tonight that Chlor hydrate used with an opiate drug slows down reactions, actions and ability to speak, much like you see with ANS.
Thanks for info :-)
bravo!
Well, I'm sure Ray Martino will be coming in for the inquest, so maybe they'll ask him.
LOL....right.
Over on the Court TV message boards, there are numerous posters that think just like you do. Just hanging around in the squishy middle....blowing which ever way the wind blows. You should check it out. I'm certain that they would welcome your input. And, that pesky subject of Dannilynn is hardly mentioned at all!
Yes, the food is very expensive at Delmonicos. My sis-in-law went and the bill was $500 for 4 people. But we went to NOLA which wasn't too bad price-wise. It was only my husband and i and no kids along so we splurged.
Where is El Cortez located? I was just in Vegas recently and there were tons of nickel slots and even penny slots!
It's an upside down world we live in.
He could of had a hidden cam to monitor her though.
I suspect he had monitors on her, phones tapped, you name it. Unless someone has experienced a person like HKS they have no idea what they are capable of doing to keep control.
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