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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: WestCoastGal

Thanks for the cappuccino! Much appreciated...


821 posted on 03/11/2007 11:55:44 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Sacajaweau
Remember that in eliminating Larry from Anna's life, he also eliminated her photographer.

Was Larry her photographer as in film or still shots or both? Did Larry photo her drugged up?

822 posted on 03/11/2007 11:56:11 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: stlnative

Freeper samantha did say that Chief Tiger was low key but diligent.


823 posted on 03/11/2007 11:57:44 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: stlnative

Please reconsider. You are a great addition to this thread.

You and a few others here are doing work and research to help the rest of us stay informed and updated.

Hope you'll keep posting.


824 posted on 03/11/2007 11:57:48 AM PDT by Cedar
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To: A Citizen Reporter
The omelette story came from Dr. Kris Eroshevich.

Ah. A reliable source..../NSR

825 posted on 03/11/2007 11:58:06 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Arizona Carolyn
That claus is one that makes me believe the Indian baby story is real. Exactly what HKS would stick in there to get back at that child for existing.

Very good point. Otherwise that clause is a complete mystery...

826 posted on 03/11/2007 11:58:28 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: TexKat
ANS did not have a private nurse with her at the hotel according to Big Moe. Big Moe stated that Taz was there as a friend not ANS's private nurse.

Still catching up...

I think this is a difference without a distinction. Certain professionals are always "on duty" to some degree...people such as policemen, doctors, and probably nurses. They are all expected to act professionally in times of crises even when they are not officially on duty.

I think this business of Moe and Taz being there as "just friends" is just their lame attempt to deny any liability for the way they handled things. In a court of law I don't think the claim that they weren't paid would work in a situation where someone died.

827 posted on 03/11/2007 11:58:58 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: uncitizen
If Anna didn't eat her omelet, who did or flushed it down the john??

Someone taught me that make some kind of event....REALLY BIG....and no one will notice the other possibility.

Consider the omelet as REAL BIG. An omelet has "footsteps", too.

828 posted on 03/11/2007 11:59:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Lizarde

BIG MOE woke up 9:30, 10:00, and I went in the room to
check on them. I stuck my head in. Moe states that ANS was moving
I said, "look, I'm going downstairs to eat will eat breakfast with my wife.
I'll be back up."

So, Howard went — after I ate my breakfast, I came back
upstairs and Howard, and Howard, along with the captain
King Eric

And I had to leave, you know, I had to leave to do an errand
for about 20 minutes. Moe asked Taz to tend to ANS

10 to 15 minutes later Moe calles Taz to check on ANS at which
point Taz informs Moe that ANS is still sleeping

5 minutes later Moe receives a frantic call from Taz, something wrong

Moe calls Howard after which MOe calls the liason at the hotel because of
his cellphone being registered in Dade County

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,255001,00.html


829 posted on 03/11/2007 12:00:02 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: uncitizen

He was one of the photographers for the gay pride/Dr. Kapoor photos


830 posted on 03/11/2007 12:00:51 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: uncitizen

Stomach is one thing....intestines is another. Miles and miles to go!!


831 posted on 03/11/2007 12:00:54 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: uncitizen

He was one of the photographers for the gay pride/Dr. Kapoor photos. You can see him in the video.


832 posted on 03/11/2007 12:01:06 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Sacajaweau
Ok, the interview with both is still available at the MSNBC website: (Bottom selection)http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8828200/

The one with Brigitte alone, seems to have already been bumped off. Rita appears to be in the Bahamas doing these interviews.

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Transcript of Rita Cosby interview with Eric Gibson and Brigitte Neven Feb 14, 2007

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8828200/

Rita: We want to bring you more now, of our exclusive interview with two of Anna Nicole’s close friends. Earlier Brigitte Neven told me about finding Anna Nicole in that Florida hotel room the day she died. She and her companion Eric Gibson traveled to Florida to help Anna Nicole and Howard K. Stern buy a yacht. I also asked them why they got to know Anna Nicole so well.

EG: Anna Nicole was searching, she was searching for something that she never really had. She was searching for family, love, somebody who would have her back, and somebody who she could lean on , somebody who she could trust.. And I think she found it. What amazes me, what amazes me is that Anna is a great actor, you know, you think ah you think know her…..and all of a sudden you really don’t know her anymore. Because if you tried to control her life you are in trouble. She is the leader, you know, in the Bahamian style we say, ‘she wears the pants in the house’ (laughs) that what we use the Bahamian style.

Rita: What about all these rumors out there or reports out there, if you will, that Howard was controlling Anna?

EG: Nonsense

Rita: Is there any truth that Howard was controlling Anna?

EG: Nonsense, Nonsense…..that is totally…..that is totally out of whack. She, she, if you want to use the sense of control, I would say that she controls him. Cause she…uh….Anna doesn’t do anything she doesn’t want to do, trust me.

Rita: So what was her relationship like with Howard Stern then?

EG: Well, Howard…..you know, I think that’s why Anna and Howard could get off to, Howard has the personality,……..he’s….he doesn’t have a controlling personality…he’s not, he’s not…he just go with the flow…..You know…..sometimes I think he just go the flow too much, but I mean, I be the Bahamian. You know, a lot of men stick their chest out, but Howard don’t. I mean, but this is what she wants. Any other way she not going to accept it.

Rita: Did they love each other, from what you saw?

EG: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Rita: And you believe she loved him?

EG: Oh yeah

Rita: And you believe he loved her?

EG: Oh yeah, this was a……this was a……it was a genuine relationship.

Rita: Why did she embrace you and what did she say about her real family?

EG: Oh, she didn’t want ……she didn’t want to hear her mother them even dream of calling. She thinks she….she thinks…..she doesn’t have a family, she said.

Rita: Even though she has a mother…

EG: Yeah, yeah….she didn’t want…..

Rita: and sisters…….

EG: The last person she want to call is her mother them.

BN: No, she never talked…she… she....she did not speak of her of ….of….no. She…she just said to me that she didn’t have anybody. She said normally there’s a grandmother to knit something, but Dannielynn does not have a grandmother. That’s what she said to me….so.

EG: I know for sure, she wants nothing to do with her mother. I know that for sure. Rita: What were her plans in the Bahamas?

EG: She had a lot of plans for the Bahamas. She had no intention of going anyplace else besides the Bahamas. She was going to make this her home. She had planned to adopt a Bahamian child.

Rita: She wanted to adopt a child?

EG: Absolutely.

BN: Yes.

EG: Absolutely. She wanted…..she wanted to do that. She wanted to get into the Bahamian life. I think that’s why she appreciated us because we always encourage her to go out, get out of the house. Let’s go to the beach. Let’s go swimming. And she loved boats. She loved to boat.

Rita: How serious was she about adopting a Bahamian child?

EG: Oh she…

BN: Well….there is steps you have to go through, you see, but the….the first step was to get the house. And she did…….and to remodel the Coral Harbor home….and uh….you know it’s a step at a time. You got to be subtle first, but that definitely was……she talked about that quite a few times.

Rita: Do you believe she considered Bahamas her home? Based on what you’ve told me?

EG: Absolutely.

BN: Yes

Rita: This was her future here?

EG: Absolutely, Absolutely. You know, you know when she were, when she were going away….just, just this last time, before she leaves to go over….to the states, she said to uh…to Mrs. Gibson, “if something happened to us…..if this plane crash, you keep my baby……do not let them take my baby.”

Rita: Where was the baby when Anna Nicole passed away?

EG: In Nassau, in Nassua………She does……she does not want that baby to…to….to leave the island at all….I know that.

Rita: Why didn’t she want the baby to leave here?

EG: Why? cause people keep messing with her. Everybody keep……everybody keep saying all these things. You know, everybody….everybody wants to own the baby.

Rita: Do you believe she loved Bahamas so much…..she would rather be buried here than…….in the US?

EG: Absolutely.

BN: Well, there’s the other reason. Her son is buried here, so why would she want to be someplace else?

833 posted on 03/11/2007 12:02:16 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Do you know when it was we learned that Dr. KE was there that day?

Seems like to me - and I've missed a lot by having to be away - that at first we knew she was there for the ice bath (supposedly). Now, was the ice bath back in the Bahamas? I know at first I thought it was in FL but recently read something that made me think it was before FL. Which is it?

Anyway, back to Dr. KE. Was she there earlier the day of Anna's death - ie the up and around and eating an omelet and feeling pretty well report - and then not there a short time later when Anna died? Like, where was she when Stern called her on his cell phone about Anna?


834 posted on 03/11/2007 12:03:04 PM PDT by txrangerette (Congressman Duncan Hunter for POTUS...check him out!!)
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To: RGVTx
Tas: It’s gonna show everything. Everything. This could be the smoking gun.

Whoa! Taz let one slip. Didn't Taz stop talking a long time ago? This leads me to believe that Moe and Taz have been talking to the cops from the git go. Or shortly after being presented with the video evidence. Which i believe they were presented with very early on. Not last week.

835 posted on 03/11/2007 12:03:42 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Sacajaweau
Interview with Brigitte Neven and Rita Cosby http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?f=00&g=1c13475a-1cb4-4e43-bf0a-e3223080a1ee&p=hotvideo_m_edpicks&t=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8828200/&fg= MSNBC’s Rita Cosby spoke exclusively with the woman who found Anna Nicole. So Rita, what did she tell you?

Rita: Well Amy, this morning everybody is talking about this interview that we did last night (holds up a Nassau Guardian newspaper with the headline “Stolen picts anger Stern” and a picture of of King Eric Gibson and Brigitte Neven below). This is the cover of the local newspaper here in the Bahamas and this is a clip from our interview that we did last night with the couple that was with Anna Nicole Smith and Howard Stern in Florida, right before Anna Nicole died.

About ten years ago Anna Nicole Smith came to the Bahamas because she was dating and eventually modeling for fashion mogul Peter Nygard. Then when she came back here for the birth of her daughter, she reunited with this couple, because they met her first with Peter Nygard, then they saw her again just recently. They went on boats with her, spent a lot of time with her and eventually became essentially her adopted parents, Brigitte Neven and Eric Gibson then went up to Florida last week and they were planning to go back on the yacht with Howard K. Stern and Anna Nicole Smith. But when they arrived on Thursday morning they realized that things were horribly wrong. Brigitte Neven arrived in that Florida hotel room and saw Anna Nicole napping, what she thought was napping. Then after about an hour and a half, she thought it was a long nap and eventually went to check on Anna Nicole Smith and realized something was very, very wrong at this point, this is what she saw.

Neven: When I looked at her I knew something was wrong instantly because there was no…..when people sleep the chest rises and falls and she was just lying there. And I thought, ‘that can’t be…there is something not right’. And I tried to……her jaw had dropped ….I tried to push it shut and….it, it wouldn’t. And I said, “You got to come here, something’s wrong” and she said, “what do you mean?” And I said please, and then everything, you know, just happened so quick. She tried to do CPR, she put the pillow away and started CPR and I rubbed her feet, and she tried to put some water in it but she couldn’t find a pulse and then she called Mo and he called 911.

Rita: This was the bodyguard’s wife?

Neven: Yeah, she called her husband to call 911 because we were so busy, we didn’t want to leave her there like that. We wanted to try….we still believed we could, you know, somehow, you know, talk. We, we yelled at her, we got water, we got a mirror to see if there was any breath…it was…..it was terrible.

Rita: There was no breath obviously?

Neven: No. No, like there was…..she was not cold. She was, she was warm. But she also had a big comforter over her, like her feet were warm, but it was like she was comatose, for sure.

Rita: What was she wearing?

Neven: Nothing

Rita: Nothing, she was naked, I understand.

Neven: She got, yeah. She didn’t wear any night gown or anything like that.

836 posted on 03/11/2007 12:03:56 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

This comment makes no sense at all:

"Neven: Yeah, she called her husband to call 911 because we were so busy, we didn’t want to leave her there like that"


She can call her husband, but too busy to call 911...??


837 posted on 03/11/2007 12:09:24 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: txrangerette
There is an ET interview with Dr. KE (I just read it yesterday) in which she says that she had talked to "them" [in Florida] on the phone the morning she died, and that ANS was feeling better....and ate an omelette.

The ice bath story is told differently by everyone who tells it. Best I can tell it was in Florida, Tues night.

838 posted on 03/11/2007 12:09:41 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: uncitizen

The omelet story came from that doctor friend of ANS in CA...Christine something. She said something about it on one of the ET interview links.


839 posted on 03/11/2007 12:10:26 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: uncitizen

I was wondering why she allowed herself to get so overweight. All I saw were clips of her show, I never watched it. Reminded me of a train wreck in slooooow motion :(


840 posted on 03/11/2007 12:11:10 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl
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