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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Pepper777

Believe me if Daniel was using and/or addicted to methadone, the PI, was well as everyone else would have known it. Unfortunately, I've been acquainted with people who had to take methadone (to get off heroin or other VERY addictive painkillers) and it's not a drug that you can 'hide' very well. So unless, he had been taking it for quite a while, the effect on Daniel would have been obvious. It's possible that ANS or HKS were both so used to taking it to 'make themselves feel better' that one or both of them thought 'one pill' (or dose, whatever it was) would do no harm. However, considering how young Daniel was and if he had NEVER been exposed to that type of drug (and if he was underweight/anorexic??), it is possible that a normal dose for ANS?? or HKS or any adult would have been lethal to Daniel...


7,901 posted on 03/21/2007 11:22:32 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Does it have a taste say with orange juice where Daniel would have picked up a glass with it and not known....and combined with his other drugs...killed him. What I am saying is someone spiked a drink that he took?


7,902 posted on 03/21/2007 11:40:56 PM PDT by LADYAK
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To: kcw2007

tabor...sorry bc I know this is an older post, but I did want to say that I really appreciate your open mind and the way you post on this board. It is very admirable in my opinion, and I actually want to thank you for keeping me on my toes. I will admit that I have been against HKS WAY BEFORE Daniel or ANS died, so I had an opinion before this started. Also, so far, my opinion has NOT changed about HKS yet, but I do really appreciate a poster like yourself who will remind me to look at ALL of the facts and not just 'try and convict' a person without all of the evidence. That said, I still have SERIOUS concerns about HKS and his presence if not, involvement, in two deaths...meaning Daniel and ANS...but I am NOW trying to keep my mind a little more open since I have read your posts...so thank you!


7,903 posted on 03/21/2007 11:48:56 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: LADYAK

It's funny that you would ask that, bc when I first heard about Daniel's death, I automatically thought that he might have woken up thirsty and grabbed his Mom's drink by accident, which contained methadone. Until this case, I had only heard of methadone in 'liquid form'. I've never heard of methadone in a pill form, but I guess they give it in liquid form to the addicts so it's easier to monitor...ie..you can't exactly 'pocket' a cup of drugs, as easily as you could a pill...BUT IIRC, one of the ME's (not sure if it was Wecht) said that Daniel's body contained methadone in the PILL form...I'm not sure, so if anyone knows for sure, let me know...


7,904 posted on 03/21/2007 11:56:23 PM PDT by kcw2007
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To: Lizarde
Stern warning

TMZ.com reports that Hot Smoochie Lips Inc., started by Anna Nicole Smith, and handled by Howard K. Stern, owes more than $30,000 in back taxes and has been suspended from doing business in California.

According to the California secretary of state, Hot Smoochie Lips hasn't filed a state tax return since it started in 2002.

Not only does the company reportedly owe $28,945 in corporate taxes, the L.A. County tax collector says it also owes $8,920.54 in property taxes.

http://www.philly.com/dailynews/features/20070322_Tattle___Britney_ends_rehab__faces____woes.html
7,905 posted on 03/22/2007 12:23:59 AM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: kcw2007
methadone is being used increasingly for "chronic" pain sufferers........

they act normal while getting their doses.....

I don't understand why its prescribed, how often its prescribed,and what I really don't understand is that with my very bad back and neck with proof positive of severe osteoarthritis, that I can't get a Rx for anything, and even my silly muscle relaxant was just for one month.....

how so many of these people get docs to order all these drugs for them is beyond me.....I guess I'll have to practice at being whiney ...LOL

7,906 posted on 03/22/2007 1:04:55 AM PDT by cherry
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To: TexKat

No, it isn't LB's father in the pic. I caught a glimpse of him in the background when someone interviewed LB at his hotel in the Bahamas. His dad has grey hair and his wife is blonde and looks a somewhat younger.

LB was seated and the camera briefly panned up some stairs in the background where his father and step-mother were standing.

They didn't show them long enough that allowed for remembering features to provide a detailed description, but the guy in the picture is definitely not Mr. Birkhead.


7,907 posted on 03/22/2007 2:05:58 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: TexKat; All

Found the video! Access Hollywood interview.

Title of Video - A Victory for Birkhead?
There are two videos here. The first also has a brief shot of LB's dad. Video then goes to the interview at the hotel that pictures father and step-mother.
http://video.accesshollywood.com/player.html?dlid=82424

They have a large selection of Larry Birkhead Interview videos at the site. (on right-mid page)
http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah4513.shtml?dst=rss%7Cgeneral_rss


7,908 posted on 03/22/2007 4:04:33 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: kcw2007
How mushy. You sound like a teenager.

I had no opinion regarding Howard and I cannot recall having heard his name until after Daniel's death. I have tried to come up with positive things in reference to him but all I can come up with is that at least on some occasions he dresses in a suit proper for appearing in court and he managed somehow to graduate from college, dim though he sounds. I am sure there are a few more trivial points. Sometimes he reminds me of a Rev. Jim Jones wannabe. I have seen no FACTS that point to Howard as a nice guy. Instead, they point to the opposite.

This thread here is far friendlier than some others. On another one that dealt with Jenna Bush, it turned very nasty. One example: a poster was "zotted" (wrongly, in my opinion) because she, like you, had posted on only one subject. I find nothing wrong with that.

7,910 posted on 03/22/2007 4:23:20 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: Rte66

NAH, You need someone with a more prominent jaw.


7,911 posted on 03/22/2007 4:28:49 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: A Citizen Reporter

Bookmarking (again) for tonight.


7,912 posted on 03/22/2007 4:37:16 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't out to get you...)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I can't find any of the stuff about Moe on there, was it changed overnight, or am I just not finding it? To me, I only see a one-page website?


7,913 posted on 03/22/2007 4:40:08 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: tabor
Ford Shelly TESTIFIED in court that HKS would not allow his daughter to call her parents when she felt uncomfortable and wanted to go home.

Yet another piece of evidence.

7,914 posted on 03/22/2007 4:42:29 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: kcw2007
"I've also read recently that 'someone' (can't remember who it was, but I think it was someone in Stern's camp) stated that Daniel had previously 'stolen' methodone from his mother, and that she kicked him out of the house for it."

Where you heard this was yet another, heavily edited segment of ET footage. ET is once again, using interviews done with the "players" (Birkhead, Ford Shelly, G. Ben Thompson) months ago and taking their quotes out of context. Last night the new ET tactic is to lay foundation for Daniel to have "stolen" his mother's meds.

Howard is getting very desperate. And he's taking a lot of people, and their reputations.......with him.

7,915 posted on 03/22/2007 4:48:38 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: tabor
"Could be just a personal thing."

Could me. HKS is going to look like a real snake, selling those pictures now, isn't he? I'll be just glad if Ford just tanked the market value of those pictures.

7,916 posted on 03/22/2007 4:59:44 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Lizarde

I saw that interview. It was on H&C or Greta (can't remember which).

I just finished catching up with yesterday's posts. Someone asked where in the timeline after Daniel died would the opportunity present itself to take the picture. Maybe it was before ANS was aware of his (not)breathing status and alerted everyone.

He was observed by personnel helping ANS to the bathroom at 6:20AM and dead at 9:30AM (ish). He would have to be OK enough to assist her - she probably went back to sleep - whatever was administered would have to take effect - the picture taker was either aware and poised to click at time of death and before discovery or the pic is of dead Daniel being removed on a gurney. There is no way it could have happened during the bedlam resulting from discovery.

My early thoughts on the 'living Daniel' hospital room photos:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1781543/posts?page=21822#21822

This is one of the most sordid tales I've ever heard and I expect more of the same in the future.


7,917 posted on 03/22/2007 5:00:45 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: tabor

"Barth has 3 kids."

Is she estranged from her mother because her mother is an evil woman - or is that just a rumor?

Barth's defamatory opinions on Virgie Arthur are based solely on what she has been told by HK$. Brainwashing is not relevant in a custody case - facts are.

If Barth were handling the Bahamian custody issue(which she is not) her only responsibility is to prove that HK$ has the background, character references, income and experience for custody/guardianship of an infant versus Virgie's qualifications.

I am not convinced that Barth has made her point. She has not provided proof of HK$' fitness to nurture or raise a child. To allude to a family member's possible injury with a firearm that was probably Virgie's is abominable.

For Virgie's attorneys to question HK$' proximity to the death scenes of Virgie's daughter and grandson is completely appropriate. To question his involvement in providing addictive drugs and failure to seek prompt medical attention for two persons in mortal danger is both appropriate and necessary, when the fate of another innocent family member is at stake.


7,918 posted on 03/22/2007 5:01:21 AM PDT by sodpoodle ( sparrows are underrated)
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To: TexKat

I got sick to my tummy of Nancy Grace.....
I have to confess lately she is toned down her um like a horse prancing unruly around.

She has calmed down and the ole NG is cool coming through.

So I don't get to see her often due to lent no tv with the Man of the house but I do go prepare saleds and turn her on.

I like Nancy Grace again.


7,919 posted on 03/22/2007 5:28:27 AM PDT by Global2010 ( I am the worst armchair slueth in America.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

DARN! I did not think of that. Thanks.


7,920 posted on 03/22/2007 5:30:22 AM PDT by gopheraj
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