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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: windchime

Could it be grapefruit?

What the hell is wrong with Cyril Wecht?


3,221 posted on 03/15/2007 6:43:29 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys

Oh no...what is Cyril up to tonight? (Fox deprived, hubby watching MarchMadness).


3,222 posted on 03/15/2007 6:45:05 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't out to get you...)
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To: uncitizen; TexKat

Why would HKS leave all this evidence including liquid methadone in the fridge of the house and then leave the house unoccupied to go to FLA? Maybe the meth was a plant? "See Anna was a meth addict".

Or what if it wasn't really methadone in those bottles, but something else even more deadly? In which case, hks didn't expect the house to be broken into.


3,223 posted on 03/15/2007 6:46:07 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: mom4kittys

I'm watching now. WELL WORTH SEEING! Wecht making excuses. Guilfoyle is saying what many here have been saying, too.


3,224 posted on 03/15/2007 6:46:26 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: Pepper777

" One is Doc KE. She has Perper's ear and is a psychiatrist, which means an expert on frame of mind. Not good, unless Perper is really on the ball and realizes KE might be Stern's partner in crime."

Bingo.
Dr Perper has indicated time and again that he was very grateful for the input and help given to him by HKS and KE.
I hope , with all due respect, that Dr Perper is not too old and naive to understand that he is being rolled by some very adept players.
KE has some questions to answer.
The medieval ice bath therapy in lieu of hospitalization,regardless of the patient's protestations.
A person with a history of drug use, perhaps facilitated by KE, plus a fever of 105-is not in their right mind to make any kind of rational decisions.
ANS should have been hospitalized ASAP.
A patient with a history of a fever of 105 and major drug dependency, who falls in the bathtub and hits her head should have had skull films, at a minimum.
KE said- she wasn't bruised, she was fine.No need to take her to the hospital.
Apparently KE has x ray vision.
And where were the DEA and the California medical boards in all of this?
The DEA and the medical boards are supposed to monitor the opiod prescribing patterns of doctors.
But, somehow scripts for Demerol, Dilaudid and Methadone are flying all over the place for ANS and her AKAs and no one in the regulatory agencies notices the pattern ?
This is unbelievable.


3,225 posted on 03/15/2007 6:47:49 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

He's saying that the drugs aren't cumulative--which is bullshit. He also poo pooed the idea of a food interaction.

He also said he never heard of a homicide being carried out by using a cumulative drug overdose.


3,226 posted on 03/15/2007 6:48:11 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys

What is uh umm Wecht saying? I missed it.


3,227 posted on 03/15/2007 6:48:11 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
We might find out that Howard just plain out lied to Perper and his story about how she was when Howard left her doesn't quite jive. In other words, she was dead BEFORE Howard left her and Perper is REAL certain for some reason.

I wonder if Anna used some kind of nebulizer?? Goes right to your lungs and into your bloodstream.

No matter what, mathematically, the deaths are not accidents AND the ONLY person in common who had access to both of them is Howard.

Statistics alone point to Howard (Husband, boyfriend). And the circumstances and the odds multiply way beyond what we require for a DNA match or a fingerprint match.

As for the baby, I bet the Bahama folks have a guardian with her other than a Gibson. For all we know, Howard's not even getting access to Dannie Lynn on a "I want to be alone with her" basis.

3,228 posted on 03/15/2007 6:48:27 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt; All
I think Dr. Perper is probably a very kind and sweet man, who was at first, taken in by Howard and his ilk.

Hey guys, the Bahamas is on EST. Just so we know what time to come together..I THINK, but I could be wrong..gasp...that the hearing starts at 10:30 am.

sw

3,229 posted on 03/15/2007 6:49:18 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife))
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To: uncitizen

see my post 3226. Where is Rod Wheeler based? Ayone have an email address?


3,230 posted on 03/15/2007 6:50:26 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys
Did y'all see H&C? Rod Wheeler said food interacted with the drugs concerning Daniel and probably ANS. He said there was food in Daniel's stomach.

With the timeline of that night, I would suspect for there to be food in Daniels stomach.

3,231 posted on 03/15/2007 6:51:12 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: mom4kittys

I haven't seen H&C this evening, was Wheeler on last night? What kind of food might that be? The dinner HKS brought for Daniel?


3,232 posted on 03/15/2007 6:52:21 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
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To: mom4kittys
CW says that, because (my guess) he overlooked the interaction of certain foods (your grapefruit discovery)...and now won't admit that he could have been wrong. CW is covering his ar$e!
3,233 posted on 03/15/2007 6:53:04 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't out to get you...)
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To: mom4kittys
see my post 3226. Where is Rod Wheeler based? Ayone have an email address?

I already did. My post came in shortly after yours. Who is Rod Wheeler?

3,234 posted on 03/15/2007 6:53:13 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: TexKat

Rod Wheeler seemed to think the food was an issue.


3,235 posted on 03/15/2007 6:53:28 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: TexKat

So if he hadn't eaten, he'd still be alive?? Absurd!!


3,236 posted on 03/15/2007 6:53:35 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: stlnative
" the injection marks are small depending on the needle size you use and they heal fast."

Thanks for that additional information.

When I read here earlier about the report about possible injections, and the alcohol swab question, and the demerol---and, yes, we all remember Perper saying she did not show the track marks of the usual drug addict pattern....I wondered if the injection(s) that may have been done to Anna the day she died could be have been done so that it was so small that it would have been easily missed in the initial autopsy evaluation.....and now you confirm that is exactly what could have happened! Thank you!

Would to God Perper had some of our team on his team!!! LOL

3,237 posted on 03/15/2007 6:54:55 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: TexKat

Well if Perper is asking if Anna used alcohol swabs when she injected Demerol. I would say again Perper found an injection site (pin prick hole) on her body (in which she could reach herself) and tested the tissues and muscle area under that injection site and found the Demerol at a higher rate near the injection site thus telling him that Demerol was the drug injected at the injection site (pin prick hole) Tox reports would also show the level of Demerol in her her system and nerve endings. Demerol use also can be detected in hair for long term use.

Have any of you ever had a pain killer shot before? (one under the skin or in a muscle - not in a vein - do you remember the small pin prick hole it left?)

Most of you are women here - when you go in for a pap smear do they not prick your finger for blood?


3,238 posted on 03/15/2007 6:56:16 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Sacajaweau

If Daniel hadn't eaten AND washed it down with whatever was in the yellow, Wendyesque cup, he may very well still be alive. (ANS meth or demerol mixed in with the drink by HK$ and -possibly- ingested by DS by mistake.)


3,239 posted on 03/15/2007 6:56:19 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't out to get you...)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

He didn't say, just was insistent that food was an issue. I've been speculating about my grapefruit theory.


3,240 posted on 03/15/2007 6:56:32 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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