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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: A Citizen Reporter

Why, when she has said (herself) that she was there) do they ignore the fact? I'm starting to wonder: Do the Seminoles know she was there?


3,041 posted on 03/15/2007 2:48:03 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: spectre

I'm conflicted too.

It is a little uncomfortable, but I noticed awhile back that Virgie and Larry seemed to be joining forces against HK$ and didn't think it was a good strategy then.

Their attorneys have (since the body custody case)probably staked out individual approaches which separately keep HK$' attorneys off guard. Hk$ has to cover 2 bases instead of one.

Let's wait for more symptoms before final diagnosis;)


3,042 posted on 03/15/2007 2:49:27 PM PDT by sodpoodle (It's your kid in trouble - who do you call - Howie or Vergie?)
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To: spectre

Actually, it is a good legal move. Virgie obviously does not have to submit to a DNA test, she is the undisputed maternal grandmother. The only person who would have custodial rights above her is the natural father. Her legal intervention could be what forces a cour ordered DNA test of the baby.


3,043 posted on 03/15/2007 2:50:38 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: pnz1; WestCoastGal

When there is a an injection site found this what happens...

The cell area around the injection site would be more sterile that other areas on the body.

They take skin cell scraping from around the immediate injection site, then they take skin cell scrapings from area near the injection site (from a outside an area that is at least 2" in diameter away from the injection site)

These skin cells are then examined against each other. The skin cells coming from the area right at the injection site should be more sterile if a alcohol swab was used.

Then they also take tissue and muscle samples from the area under the injection site to determine what drug was injected in to that area.





2,826 posted on 03/15/2007 12:43:43 PM CDT by stlnative


3,044 posted on 03/15/2007 2:54:04 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

LOL


3,045 posted on 03/15/2007 2:56:26 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I was willing and waiting until after the funeral for him to say, OK, I give, no more court, no more fighting.

Since he has implied all along that it was Anna who ran things, took her own drugs, made all the decisions, even if they were bad decisions.

But, after seeing that the hearings will continue in Bahamas, with him not behaving as a gentleman to the grandma, in public no less, not giving up the house, not offering the baby for testing, he has shown himself as not worthy, imo.
3,046 posted on 03/15/2007 2:57:22 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Well there are some factors here...

Who saw her that morning - what was her condition that morning - what was her condition the evening before - who saw her the evening before.

Who's name was the Demerol in? (so far it sounds like it was in someones name that was not Anna's or any of Anna's aliases.)

If it was in Howard's name why was Howard injecting her with large doses of HIS Demerol?


3,047 posted on 03/15/2007 2:57:44 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Toespi

There yah go!

Almost got there - thanks Toespi


3,049 posted on 03/15/2007 3:02:46 PM PDT by sodpoodle (It's your kid in trouble - who do you call - Howie or Vergie?)
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To: Toespi
I agree it could be a good move, I heard on the radio today from a Bahamian lawyer that she will file for "interim" custody with the grandmother until the ct decides paternity.
3,050 posted on 03/15/2007 3:05:35 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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Or....

Why was Howard leaving his drugs laying around if she was the one who injected herself with the Demerol?

Everything is pointing to Howard being the drug controller so she would not OD. Howard has been seen injecting drugs into her in the past. Then it is very possible that the Demerol was in his name.

Also if she injected the Demerol by syringe by herself then why not leave the syringe in the room sense it would have Anna's fingerprints on it. Most likely if she did it to herself while everyone was gone then the syringe would probably be by the bedside, in the bed or in the room somewhere.



3,051 posted on 03/15/2007 3:08:11 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Some Bahamians on other msg boards made a thing out of the fact that work had stopped on the Coral Harbour house the morning of the day ANS died (she wasn't even reported as sick until 1:15PM at the earliest, and that to HKS and Moe, not to the media).

It seemed to me that since King Eric is the contractor on the house, and that since he and Brigitte had flown to FL that morning to meet HKS/ANS to get the boat, then the hired workers either played hooky or more likely, were told to take that couple of days off, until KEG was back on-site.


3,052 posted on 03/15/2007 3:10:05 PM PDT by Rte66
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Demerol Injection

Active Ingredients: Meperidine Hydrochloride Injection Representative Names: Demerol Injection

What is meperidine injection?  
MEPERIDINE (Demerol®) relieves moderate to severe pain. Meperidine may be used to control pain following surgery, child birth, and other procedures. Meperidine may also be used to treat pain associated with cancer, heart attacks, sickle cell disease, other medical conditions and helps induce and maintain anesthesia. Federal law prohibits the transfer of meperidine to any person other than the patient for whom it was prescribed. Do not share this medicine with anyone else. Generic meperidine injections are available.

What should my health care professional know before I receive meperidine? (Back to top) 
They need to know if you have any of these conditions:
•diarrhea
•glaucoma
•heart disease
•intestinal disease
•kidney disease
•liver disease
•lung disease or breathing difficulties
•pain or difficulty passing urine
•prostate problems
•seizures
•an unusual or allergic reaction to meperidine, other medicines, foods, dyes, or preservatives
•pregnant or trying to get pregnant
•breast-feeding

How should I use this medicine? (Back to top) 
Meperidine is for injection into a muscle or under the skin or into a vein. The injection is usually given by a health-care professional in a clinic or hospital setting. If your prescriber or health care professional prescribes meperidine for around-the-clock relief of pain, you may be shown how to give yourself injections. Follow the directions carefully. Dispose of all injection equipment safely. Do not share this medicine with any one.

What drug(s) may interact with meperidine? (Back to top) 
•acyclovir
•furazolidone
•linezolid
•medicines for high blood pressure
•medicines called MAO inhibitors-phenelzine (Nardil®), tranylcypromine (Parnate®), isocarboxazid (Marplan®)
•medicines for seizures
•procarbazine
•other medicines for depression, such as SSRIs
•ritonavir
•selegiline
•valacyclovir

Because meperidine causes drowsiness, other medicines that also cause drowsiness may increase this effect of meperidine. Some medicines that cause drowsiness are:
•alcohol and alcohol containing medicines
•barbiturates such as phenobarbital
•certain antidepressants and tranquilizers
•certain antihistamines used in cold medicines
•muscle relaxants

What side effects may I notice from taking meperidine? (Back to top) 
Some side effects can be eased if you lie down after taking your medicine.
Rare or uncommon:
•cold, clammy skin
•difficulty breathing, wheezing
•irregular heartbeat, palpitations
•seizures
•severe rash
•unusual weakness
More common:
•confusion
•lightheadedness or fainting spells
•nervousness or restlessness
•difficulty passing urine

Side effects that usually do not require medical attention (report to your prescriber or health care professional if they continue or are bothersome):
•blurred vision
•constipation
•drowsiness, dizziness
•flushing
•dry mouth
•headache
•nausea, vomiting

Where can I keep my medicine? 
Keep out of the reach of children in the original container. Do not share or give this medicine to anyone else. Avoid accidental swallowing of meperidine by someone (especially children) other than the person for whom it was prescribed as this may result in severe effects and possibly death.

3,053 posted on 03/15/2007 3:10:10 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: roses of sharon


Definition of Parasite: (HOWARD)


An organism that lives in or on and takes its nourishment from another organism. A parasite cannot live independently.


3,054 posted on 03/15/2007 3:14:22 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: roses of sharon
If Virgie was good enough to watch Daniel from the time he was 3 mos. old......for 6 years!!!, Virgie is good enough to watch Dannie Lynn...despite Howard's concocted tape.

I think we all know that the Drug thing was the difference they had.

Obviously, Anna didn't like Mommy telling her what to do whether she was 12 or 30...which goes right back to Anna's attitude in her youth.

3,055 posted on 03/15/2007 3:14:56 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: TexKat

Questions...

Was the Demerol Vial found in the room?
How many holes were in the self healing rubber top from syringes being poked into it?
Where in the syringe?
Who's finger prints where on the syringe, Demerol Vial, and cotton swab wrapper if one was used?
Who name was on the Demerol?
If no syringe was found in the room - then why is that? (if she injected herself with it why not leave it in the room untouched?)


3,056 posted on 03/15/2007 3:15:05 PM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta; lizard; spectre

Avoid accidental swallowing of meperidine by someone (especially children) other than the person for whom it was prescribed as this may result in severe effects and possibly death.

http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/DVH/Uses/0,3915,416%7CDemerol+Injection,00.html#uses


3,057 posted on 03/15/2007 3:15:54 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: stlnative
If it was in Howard's name why was Howard injecting her with large doses of HIS Demerol?

Really.

(just helping her /sarc)

3,058 posted on 03/15/2007 3:20:51 PM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Lizarde
Did you or anyone hear what Harry Levin of TMZ said on court tv earlier - about being uncomfortable talking about certain stuff like who was there after her death????? I thought they were about to talk about Bridget and the King but it was something else and it was after her death?

Levin of TMZ isn't given enough time to speak on these shows to suit me. IMO he knows more than most people.

3,059 posted on 03/15/2007 3:21:11 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: TexKat

Is there recent news as to when the ME will release the autopsy report?


3,060 posted on 03/15/2007 3:23:07 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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